posted February 05, 2018 01:51 PM            

On a daily basis I hear everything from 7 year olds and up and how they suffer from SEVERE anxiety and depression problems and I find this absolutely astounding and very scary!! It's on the news, it's in the schools where psychologist are actively working with these children and it's everywhere I turn :-/

I cannot recall "my generation" being like this whatsover. All we wanted to do was to head out in the world and make money and until that was happening we spent our days playing sports, chilling outside or just talking amongst eachother so I am wondering if this is a "generational epidemic" (Pluto perhaps)? Has anyone else noticed this?

posted February 05, 2018 03:37 PM            

Parents these days are so concerned about letting their children be "free to make their own choices" and not constrict them in any way, and also encouraging this "everyone is a winner" mentality to not discourage them in any way. What you end up with is a child with few boundaries, little guidance and an unprecedented sense of entitlement. You get a child who gets upset over the smallest disappointment on one end of the spectrum and on the other end you have a child behaving like a wild animal with no respect for their peers or authority figures.

The rate of anxiety and depression extends into youth and adulthood with this generation because they are not set up to deal with the inevitable failure that comes with life. They get a bad grade in school and fall into a 'depression'...meanwhile they did little actual work to deserve a good grade. They don't make the softball team and fall into a 'depression'...because they haven't been taught that rejection is a necessary evil in life and they're not impervious to it. They have a failed relationship and fall into a 'depression'...because they haven't been taught that real personal connections require work and vulnerability and they think it should all be carefree.

It is so starkly different even to how I was raised being born in the 80's. Children now are NOT being properly equipped to handle life's inevitable ups and downs. Thinking somehow they should be guaranteed success just for being born. The whole "travel the world, find yourself, blaze your own path" is wonderful until the hard slap of reality hits and there are bills to pay and they wonder why they can't find a stable job anywhere.

posted February 06, 2018 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
I think ever since the world is world children suffer.The only difference is cuz know we (the society) accept that.We don't think they are just being "annoying".We aknowledge their pain.Besides that now we have internet so we know about everyone's life.NOW THE WORLD IS FINALLY AWARE THAT DEPRESSION DO EXIST and this condition is now losing the "taboo" label.

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I 100% agree that the acceptance and open dialogue of mental illness helps those that were suffering in silence, but the rate of anxiety/depression now is staggering.
How much of it can be attributed to real illness, poor coping mechanisms or sometimes a cry for attention? What better way to escape responsibility than to blame something that is difficult to argue.

posted February 06, 2018 08:19 PM            

Having said that I think now that adults are way more aware of this concept that people have problems and that is normal(not just crazy people seek therapy) more of them are seeking help and not just for them but also for their children.Depression and mental illness rates will increase more and more.That is expected.People are coming to light and showing their scars and I think that's great.Now finally the world will shift it's course and flow.We need movement.We need people to heal themselves in order to love others.

I agree with you about parents losing "reigns" on their children nowadays,I think you have listed great points but I think that years ago we had another extreme harmful behaviour of those who controlled way too much their children,killing their self expression.Not to mention the masked abuse as a way to "correct" them.

posted February 06, 2018 08:36 PM            

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Children now are NOT being properly equipped to handle life's inevitable ups and downs. Thinking somehow they should be guaranteed success just for being born.

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yeah!

Letting aside the fact that I think children suffer anyway and the root issue just changed I agree with all points you have listed.

posted February 06, 2018 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
a psychologist can easily find out if it is a real problem or just a call for a attention and they admit children are hurting.

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Take anyone (child or otherwise) to 3 different psychiatrists and you can get a different diagnosis each time. Assuming the people on LL who claim to have degrees in psychology really do then the definitions of a disorder is so flexible as to be meaningless (and given how terrible the profession is, I really can believe the LL psyche degrees holder are what they claim to be). Experiments have also shown how confirmation bias in making a diagnosis is even by psychiatrists who can't just do a blood test or brain scan to see (sure they sometimes want blood tests, but that's to measure the effects of medication). I know someone who got hospitalized because he wanted to be checked for a thyroid problem and was told he was depressed with a prescription of psyche meds that made him psychotic. I could go on.

And that doesn't even count the professionals who are ****** , either saying whatever they're paid to say (I see parents wanting a diagnosis for their child as more likely than a child wanting it) or to push the pills the pharma industry pays them to push, nor does it count the ones that project their own issues onto all unfortunates that come to them.

posted February 06, 2018 09:59 PM            

In my opinion emotional problems are meant to be solved not to be covered and no one need to be graduated in psychology to know that.Bad professionals?well they are everywhere.We have terrible doctors out there too, a lot of them don't know what they are doing.How many times we have heard about people getting their wrong leg cut and other bizarre events?We are going to stop seeking for help then?Maybe we should just do our own surgery and expect a miracle.

The problem is that people understimate mental illness and their power.How do you think we gonna EVER have healthy relationships if everyone is so sick and sad?If they can't even love themselves how do you expect them to love others?

We exercise.We eat health foods.We take care of our bodies and everything is fine?We are just blood bags.

For me our SOUL is a divine trinity.
The perfect connection of BODY .MIND. HEART
but we only take care of one.That's what everyone teach us.

People out of balance mentally and emotionally can deeply hurt themselves and others.Again we just need to have some sense to understand that.Not a degree or anything.The world has always been sick with people suffering all over the place but seems that close our eyes to that will heal everything magically?

Maybe we should just sing "imagine all the people" and expect people to magically heal their wounds.Now that is innocence.People heal by facing their issues and their pain, not living in denial about their existance.

They will seek for help because those people studied for years to do that and they can help.

Pills + therapy +Your willpower.Pills won't just heal everything for us.That is the first thing I heard on my teen years when I met one.

I'm sorry but calling an entire group of professionals CRAP is the true ******** !

posted February 06, 2018 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ But can you face your issues by taking a pill ?

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posted February 06, 2018 10:29 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Well, they do ask the questions.......and then prescribe pills to help us face our issues.

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posted February 06, 2018 10:57 PM            

#######please don't quote as I intend to edit later.

posted February 07, 2018 02:07 AM            

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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
Who in LL claim to have a degree in psychology?I've been here for years and I never saw one.

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I'm pretty sure Voix_de_la_Mer is a professional (and one of the better ones, btw, though I don't trust the discipline much, I do think she does as much good as possible with it). I believe Ami Anne claims to have a degree (certainly taken classes), and I know eyes like pisces claims to have taken college classes on the subject (and spoken on the subject) as well. There's at least one more who claimed to be a therapist but I can't remember her name here. Not sure why it's important, unless you're just hoping that by my saying their names they'll feel compelled to jump in to support you.

And I think you misunderstood me. I didn't say all psychologists and psychiatrists are bad people (in fact, I said I wasn't counting the ones who projected their own issues or just said whatever got them paid). I said the discipline itself is so full of crap that it doesn't deserve the trust people give it. I repeat, because I know you'll just twist my words, that I don't think it's all crap, but there's so much dirty bathwater in it that it will be a long time before the discipline itself (and thus the professionals, however well meaning and competent, that practice it) can have the kind of faith you, and so many others, think they should have.