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Iridia
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posted February 07, 2018 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are/were a fluent speaker of a foreign language (or more than one) and you haven't lived in a place where it's commonly used or studied it in college, do you have any of these?

Sun/Mercury/Mars/Jupiter in the 9th house
Ascendant/Sun/Mercury in Sagittarius
Jupiter in the 3rd house
Mercury aspected by Jupiter
3rd/9th house cusp in Sagittarius
3rd house ruler in the 9th house or the other way round

I may add something to the list.
Thank you in advance.

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MilaBirkin
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posted February 07, 2018 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love learning languages! But maybe I'm not fluent? Although, I understand what I read and hear in English, Portuguese, Italian, French and German. Spanish is my first language. I've never been in any other country.
Right now “I'm studying“ , I have a German test tomorrow. I'm nervous .

I don't have any of these'. I have Jupiter in Sagittarius square Sun in Pisces and Saturn. Sextile Venus/MC, trine Mars (I think my dominant planets are Venus and Mars because I have Venus conj. MC exact and Mars opposite MC). Neptune and Uranus in 9th house.

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Empty Spaces
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posted February 07, 2018 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love english and spanish.However I never paid for a course or spent too much studying at home so I'm glad that I can somehow talk to everyone here.I'm not fluent yet and maybe I will never be but I can read articles all over the place and watch videos on youtube so I appreciate a lot this "gift" from my natal.

I spend a lot of time studying spiritual matters on a language that isn't mine and take a look on this position >> venus in pisces (9th house)

I'm sure I make a lot of mistakes and I probably destroy the language a couple times but I'm happy

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Lalafortunaea
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posted February 07, 2018 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**meep** =3

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Iridia
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posted February 07, 2018 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MB
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I have Jupiter in Sagittarius square Sun in Pisces

Jupiter in his kingdom? I can see why you enjoy it.

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Right now “I'm studying“

Sure you are, English and astrology

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I have a German test tomorrow. I'm nervous

You can always ask Randall to temporarily ban you if it's really important

ES

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I spend a lot of time studying spiritual matters on a language that isn't mine and take a look on this position >> venus in pisces (9th house)

This can be a very good way to improve. I don't know how good my English would have been now without my interest in astrology etc. Funnily, I have a really hard time discussing this stuff in my native language at this point.

Lalafortunaea
Not exactly the kind of person I was talking about but still an interesting case, thanks! I'm saving the chart and I will dive in when I have more time.

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Me? I just speak 2 languages fluently. Jup in the 3rd.

I wish...but to me it's not "just".


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arcturus90
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posted February 07, 2018 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe Moon well aspected to Jupiter have to learn language because he lives abroad, he / she learns and uses it almost like a native language... And I think this aspect makes people be good at learning languages.
Or maybe Moon aspected to Jupiter in general (good / bad aspects) has different native languages.

Otherwise, Jupiter in first house is good at learning languages maybe...

Maybe Talent in Sagittarius or in 9th house
planets in Gemini

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Lalafortunaea
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posted February 07, 2018 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not exactly the kind of person I was talking about but still an interesting case, thanks! I'm saving the chart and I will dive in when I have more time.

Oh, my bad. Forgot to add that some of the languages she speaks are ones she's done just because. She hasn't lived in the country. =3 if that's what you mean. But yeah just added her chart for the studies =3

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Melinn
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posted February 07, 2018 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say mercury aspects to the planets saturn pluto and uranus and also the signs virgo and gemini can be at play in thise matters..

Saturn and pluto because,structure and being able to detect nuances and structure. Uranus, makes the mind easy to adapt and process new information.

Virgo and Gemini, mercury ruled. (well virgo is chiron ruled in my opinion, also chiron is about knowledge). Gemini is very good at dialects and imitation, also good at snapping up the different nuances.

I speak 4 languages and a 5th I can read and write in and understand about 60-70% of it.


I have Virgo Asc, Mercury and Sun in 9th house.

Chiron (the virgo ruler in my opinion) in Gemini and a Gemni stellium in 10th house.

Mercury is aspected by: Uranus, Saturn, Sun and Neptune and

also Opposite Scorpio Pluto in 3rd house.

Jupiter in 8th inconjunct Plut in 3rd house.

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted February 08, 2018 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I speak 3 broadly spoken world languages fluently, and understand 2 others pretty well. overall I learn languages very fast


I have mercury in the 9th, which is also my 3rd ruler

moon (ruler of the 12th house) at the cusp of the 9th

moon trine jupiter

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StubbornVirgo
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posted February 08, 2018 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter in the 6th house
Pluto in the 9th house

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angel4845
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posted February 08, 2018 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m a fluent speaker ! And have found it very easy for me to learn lots of languages plus I love learning languages!! Loooove to travel.

3rd cusp sag
Chart ruler Venus in sag in 3rd house square 3rd ruler Jupiter in 12th
9th ruler mercury conjunct IC square ascendant/descendant.
Pallas in sag conjunct Venus in sag

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Mariamne Mara
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posted February 08, 2018 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mariamne Mara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I speak four languages fluently and now studying two more.

Sun in Sagittarius X house (known in my background for that); Sun conjunct Cappy Mercury in 11th; 9th house Scorpio with Jupiter as ruler of MC in it, conjunct natal Saggy Uranus and Scorpio Moon in 9th house.


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Yanmorg
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posted February 08, 2018 09:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I started speaking Spanish fluently in 1st grade.

I have always had an interest in foreign languages.

Mercury quintile Uranus?
Mercury quintile Neptune?
Uranus and Neptune in the 9th?

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MilaBirkin
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posted February 09, 2018 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iridia:

[QUOTE]I have Jupiter in Sagittarius square Sun in Pisces

Jupiter in his kingdom? I can see why you enjoy it.


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Yes!

I forgot, I also have Moon in 3rd house. Learning languages makes me feel good.
Look what I found:

Having the Moon in the house of communication creates a very receptive mind, capable of absorbing large quantities of information. Thus, such a native can amass a huge load of data among many subjects, picking up new languages, even providing a talent for imitating other people’s voices and images.

...Copyright (©) https://theastrocodex.com - Read more at https://theastrocodex.com/natal-moon-in-the-3rd-house/

One of my three dominant planets is Jupiter and one of my three dominant signs is Sagittarius.

I always feel attracted to the foreign, countries and people. When I was a kid I wanted to marry a foreign man .
Well, I think in my case all of that is because of:

- Jupiter in Sagittarius square Sun in Pisces. Sagittarius/Pisces. Maybe Jupiter square Saturn has something to do with this as well?
- Jupiter touching my dominant planets: sextile Venus(and MC), trine Mars orb: 0 °.
- Uranus and Neptune in 9th house.
- Juno/Vertex in Sagittarius maybe? Mostly because I've always wanted to marry a foreign man, lol.
- Moon in 3rd house. Opposite Uranus and Neptune in 9th house.
- Mercury Quintile Jupiter! I almost forgot about that aspect. I have Mercury in Aquarius, 10th house.
- Ruler of 10th (Mercury/Venus in Aquarius) in 9th?
- Rulef of 3rd in 3rd?
- Ruler of 8th in 8th? JupiteR/Sagittarius.

I have Jupiter Octile Uranus but I don't know what that means.

I'm sorry if I'm making some mistakes when I write. That is something I have to practice more.

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lalalinda
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posted February 09, 2018 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
terrific thread Iridia!

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Iridia
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posted February 09, 2018 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, lalalinda!


Lalafortunaea

Sun in Sagittarius (ruler of the 9th) sextile Jupiter
Sagittarius Ascendant
NN in the 9th house

I believe her rather extreme devotion and unusual mental capacity could be described by her Scorpio Mercury conjunct Uranus (3rd house ruler).

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until she literally sounds like a native!

And if she also looks similar enough to them, it must be really easy for her to
"fool" them Neptune on the Ascendant = being an object of projections.

I'm curious, does she speak ALL the 7 languages fluently at this point?

arcturus90

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And I think this aspect makes people be good at learning languages.

I don't know about good, but there may be a need to learn soemthing due to the upbringing.

Melinn

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I'm fluent in my mother tongues Turkish and Swedish.

I'm shocked

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Gemini is very good at dialects and imitation, also good at snapping up the different nuances.

I agree.

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I started speaking Spanish fluently in 1st grade.

That's great but if you spoke it at home, I wouldn't call it a foreign language.

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kewf1988
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posted October 28, 2018 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting... I live in an area with a lot of Hispanics, and as a result have been learning Spanish this year, and as a result have dabbled in the other Latin languages a little as well, like French, Italian, and Portuguese. I'm not fluent yet, but around halfway there, and can do a decent job reading articles on certain topics, such as astrology (words in pretty much all the intellectual subjects are similar in English and Spanish, known as cognates... around 50% of the words are the same or similar in both languages). I know all the cognates and the regular every day words and household items, but am still working on putting it all in sentences and verb conjugation (I can pronounce fairly well). Also, when I was a little kid, I was fascinated by Chinese and Japanese characters (the designs are VERY interesting) and how many of them looked exact (in the last month or so I found out that the characters shared in both languages often mean the same thing as well). None of it has been from lessons, but from Google Translate! One of the Mexican families I'm neighbors with speaks very little English and has been teaching their kids the English they know before they start school, so I'm planning on surprising them with a custom Spanish/English dictionary to help them as a Christmas present (making sure it's the Mexican Spanish is the trickiest part, as some of the words are different in Spain, South America, and Central America, just like how American English and British English have slight differences).

Virgo rising, Sun, Mercury and Venus in Gemini, Sun and Jupiter in 9th house. This year's Solar Return features Moon in Sagittarius on SR ascendant in natal 3rd house, SR Mercury in natal 9th house, and North Node in SR 9th house. STRONG indicators for foreign language learning!

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Somna7H
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posted October 28, 2018 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Except my Native I can speak other two but not super fluent. This is nothing in my country. Many people can speak in four languages but not all.

I have NN, Mercury and Sun in Cancer 3rd House.

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posted October 28, 2018 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm fluent in Arabic my first language, good at English, took some courses in French, and trying to learn Italian on my own, also I'm very interested in other Semitic languages.
Saturn and Uranus in Sagittarius 3rd house.
9th house in Gemini.

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posted October 31, 2018 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstralAstro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always been really good at picking up foreign languages and mastering accents.

My Mercury and Ascendant are in Sagittarius with Mercury in the 1st house.
My moon is in the 3rd house in Pisces, and it's ruler Neptune is in my first house in Capricorn conjunct Uranus.
My 9th house is in Leo and there's no planets there, but my Sun in Capricorn is in the 1st house and Sextiles my 3rd house moon exactly so maybe that has an influence on my ability to communicate.

When I'm learning a language the first thing I notice are the rhythms or tempo of how natives speak, and I also notice patterns of how vowels or vowels sounds form in words.
Hope that helps!

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AstralAstro
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posted October 31, 2018 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstralAstro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgot to mention, my moon is biquintile Jupiter and my Mercury is Quintile Jupiter so that I think adds to it as well!

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MacKaylaLane
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posted October 31, 2018 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MacKaylaLane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I speak 4 languages and i'm learning 2 other languages. I have a highly mutuable chart.

Virgo Sun, Moon, Venus and Jupiter in 6th house.
Mercury sextile Jupiter.
Ruler of 1st house in 3rd house ( Gemini)
Sag on 9th house cusp
NN in Sag in the 9th house

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posted October 31, 2018 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamawolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
English is my second language! I grew up speaking Cape Verdean Creole (Portuguese based) but lost a lot of my abilities because I always responded in English. I think this was after I quickly advanced out of the foreign classes in elementary school. This in turn helped my father get the practice for becoming a better English speaker.

I'm currently learning Japanese but might also learn Portuguese since that's the closest to my first language on Duolingo. I also want to relearn some French. I can't stop!

Mercury in 9H square Pluto in 6H
Jupiter conjunct Ascendant trine Sun in 9H
Venus in Sag?

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Mariamne Mara
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posted October 31, 2018 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mariamne Mara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I speak five languages.

AC Aqua with Saturn in 9th house Scorpio and Uranus in Sagittarius X house.

Natal 3rd house Taurus with Venus in Cappy 11th house conjunct Mercury.

I'm known in my background for this talent.

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posted November 01, 2018 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for squirrel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i speak three languages, i’m also a professional translator/interpreter.

i have none of those, but i have mercury in virgo, although retrograde, squared by neptune and combust but in virgo nevertheless in the 10th, sextile uranus and trine moon in taurus. ruler of the 3rd is saturn in leo conjunct midheaven.

only my venus is in the 9th in leo, jupiter is in the 8th in cancer (conjunct mars, the chart ruler).

so jupiter is not that dominant or sagg in my natal chart, but rather uranus in scorpio (conjunct asc) and of course, virgo.

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