posted February 07, 2018 03:21 PM            

I had a friend who (since High School) has been available on every social media possible.
Myspace, msn, facebook, twitter, skype, instagram, snapchat. When something was popular she switched immidiately - gained popularity , likes, followers.
She is an ordinary person. A woman who studied at University, was good, then she has been working in some bank as IT manager. Recently she has changed for another position.

She has a lot of friends, a boyfriend , and her close friend. They do not post everything like her.

She is Taurus. Born 8/5/1989 in Rzgow, Poland.
I have seen she has her Saturn in 5th house and a weird Saturnian/Neptunian aspect ( i dont remember which one) that makes her miserable because she was not given a proper love or attention in her childhood. ( which is actually 100% true).

I was a friend with her but i saw she was a compulsive attention seeker, a very lonely person that needs to share her life with everyone.

What do you think? She is also the one who can demage your attention when you become sligtly more popular than her among people. Or she can even demage hypothetical men's attention towards your persona.
She is a very slow 'mover'.

What do you think about people like her?

In the past she has made a big drama in a company and a lot of people abandoned her. She then finally started her new relationship in which she is now still. Her bf was /is still jealous of her male friends.
I forgot to mention - she only had male best friends.

A lot of people might say she is famme fatale. I have talked about her to my other friends. They dont see a problem.
I see a problem. What do you think?

I am not friends with her anymore, but we have common friends. So sometimes we meet up and she definitely plays the victim - the one who suffers and everyone needs to help her.
I am myself very strong character(Aries). But among people usually she takes the attention because 'i am the person who always SOMEHOW' get around, deal with life BUT everyone needs to help her because she is so soft and nice .
. And she does it with purpose.

Because she couldnt stand that i looked over her and her life and everything what she did a few years ago.
Which was true and i was true but she didnt want to admit that she was using people, and doing wrong

I call her octopuss because she twines her tentacles around the 'victim' and she starts to live BY him, sucking his energy , life, becomes his girlfriend and then she starts to use that evergy in a way that she becomes stronger and the other person gets weaker. She then does the same things as this person- even better and everyone prays her.

She is not 100% full person individual. I have always thought that when u wanna be around people or in a relationship you need to work on yourself first because noone wants 50% of the person.
The myth about the half of an apple is a lie.
I have observed her since high school because she was at my class and then company.
Noone from my friends has been like her.

And i am not really sure if my beliefs towards relationships are true or not, because meeting her i saw that its not ok to be an individual unit and then seek boyfriend. She makes drama , does conspiracy, puts her nose in other people's lifes and she does something like win- lose game.
She can pull the strings because when you dont know her and her intentions she can suck every information at the beginning. And then use against you or when you become more popular or do something better than her.

How can i manage to live in a company, among friends when that person is around?

I dont need to fight for attention because i usually get it and i dont need to PLAY ( victim or a fighter) for it.

But i am pleasant to people. I have a lot of friends whom i do not disturb in life, and they do not disturb me in life. Because everyone of us does its thing.

posted February 07, 2018 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
You are looking for astological confirmation for your hatred which would be better seen in your synastry with her.

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Hello,
thank you for the reply.
Should I post the synastry here or in another part of the forum?

posted February 07, 2018 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
You are looking for astological confirmation for your hatred which would be better seen in your synastry with her.

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Hello, i am posting our synastry here.
What can I say about it.

I also explained this in my previous topic in 'Personal Readings" part.
But shortly saying, I have always had a feeling that I needed to prove her my worth to be around her and her friends.

this is our synastry.

posted February 10, 2018 02:49 AM            

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Originally posted by myapie:

Hello, i am posting our synastry here.
What can I say about it.

I also explained this in my previous topic in 'Personal Readings" part.
But shortly saying, I have always had a feeling that I needed to prove her my worth to be around her and her friends.

this is our synastry.

https://image.ibb.co/fS82ix/majaaska.png

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anyone?
please help me answer

posted February 10, 2018 10:56 AM            

Other thing would be to leave a link from here to the synastry Forum.

By the way... you have to remove the 's' from 'http' to get anything to link at LL. Includes articles, websites, etc.

Very very gently, I would look within and ask myself(you) WHY there is such a fascination, obsession, with this person?

Is there some kind of envy going on?
(and that's natural too-- forgive yourself easily, and look at what's going on inside you?)

Another thing too, is that some people have Talents for performing things that we cannot do, ourselves.

How could YOU "add" to her life in a positive way?

I remember a counselor who used to say that when a person is doing things that ask for 'attention', then what's wrong with Giving them some of that attention they desire? It could help change their life in a Positive way?

I personally saw that happen in a group of people I had been involved with in the 1990s. The woman who was their victim/'target' for socially-ostracizing awful cruel criticisms and non-inclusions, was unconsciously reacting to all of it, in what could be judged as 'attention seeking' behavior.

The more-cruelly they treated her, the more neurotic she became--- BECAUSE, she was an actual 'sensitive'.

When I saw in-effect that *they* were actually 'bullying' her, I decided to act on the wise advice I had heard years before. I looked at the group-marginalized target-person, looked at her with a mind and heart of compassion. It 'calmed' her down ... and the group started seeing a different person.

She was a brilliant person (much smarter than they), who cared a lot about people-- but *they* had a HARD attitude, and talked about her in a negative way amongst themselves.

Their corralling of their own opinions (gossip even?), just reinforced as they looked for what "proved" their own negativity.

This person was actually very empathic/(psychic), and feeling a lack of connection. She would reach out, they would hurt her, and trigger her reactions to their unfair assessments of her. Kept a negativity-loop going.

I befriended her (made a connection), and we started seeing a different person in our midsts.

She went on to become an important leader in the city and counties where she lived at-large.

She helped many people.

Plus, she had a freaky-talent at photography that allowed her to have some renown in that circle. (If you are older, you might even have seen some of her work, which was used on television shows.)

Had I-myself judged her (along with my peers) and dog-piled MORE negativity on her, based on shallow reactive behaviors, she wouldn't have stopped the overt mistakes she was making.

Same thing happens with attention-getting behaviors, herd-mentality peers, teachers, and children who are not having certain 'needs' satisfied.

Creates a dangerous precarious situation sometimes---

Myapie ...

What kind of inner 'shift' can you make in yourself, to view this person a little-more differently? Reframe the behavior.

She seems a bit self-destructive, in spite of her "apparent" popularity? What would you imagine that she is truly needing?

There might be an 'assignment' involvement with you and her?

Over the next weeks, consider what you could 'add' to her life, maybe in a quiet way, that could add to her sense of security?

Many people who are 'out there popular' could actually be leading quiet lives of desperations (as poets pen it).

What could you do, even 'energetically', like a switch in attitude-- IF you could; and I DO know 'how difficult' that can be with some people...

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*ahem*.. Want you to know that I am no saint, and I TOO deal with feelings in myself around difficult-personality traits in people that are maddening to get around!! LOL

Sending you Love, and MUCH Encouragement.
I commend you for being so open about your feelings.

I see that you registered here a LONG time ago, and really haven't participated for a while.

This must REALLY be bothering you a LOT.
I empathize with your Difficulties.
Softly, *~Hey!, Been there*???, and STILL humanly dealing with my OWN faults and fallibilities.

posted February 10, 2018 11:13 AM            

For experiment...
Shift--- and see HER "successful" life from another Lens ...

She might actually 'need' the quiet support and understanding provided by your availability, friendship and help....

posted February 10, 2018 11:49 AM            

This popped up on yt suggestions, right after I posted my response to you.

I felt the nudge to post it.

IF this relates to you in any kind of way, and helps you to make your decision, then, Be Blessed!!!

This is an illustrative-message scene from the movie "The Color Purple" ...

(music) song, "God is trying to tell you something" (.. re-establishment of a key and important relationship, scene The Color Purple) [5:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD5uPZzBr5c

It's really up to you. Whatever you decide becomes a destined opportunity of some kind.

If you've EVER heard any stories about NDE's ... they point at our 'relationships'.
Some things we gain sooo much, by sticking with it, and working things out.

posted February 11, 2018 04:23 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Sometimes, things are just freaky coincidental, as far as (other-worldly) messages are concerned.

This popped up on yt suggestions, right after I posted my response to you.

I felt the nudge to post it.

IF this relates to you in any kind of way, and helps you to make your decision, then, Be Blessed!!!

This is an illustrative-message scene from the movie "The Color Purple" ...

(music) song, "God is trying to tell you something" (.. re-establishment of a key and important relationship, scene The Color Purple) [5:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD5uPZzBr5c

It's really up to you. Whatever you decide becomes a destined opportunity of some kind.

If you've EVER heard any stories about NDE's ... they point at our 'relationships'.
Some things we gain sooo much, by sticking with it, and working things out.

Everyone has a Worth and Value.
How much of that do you want to invest, in yourself (actually)-- it could reap rewards? .. like being in a game and not opening a treasure and finding a Jewel you'd need for your Future.

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quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Sometimes, things are just freaky coincidental, as far as (other-worldly) messages are concerned.

This popped up on yt suggestions, right after I posted my response to you.

I felt the nudge to post it.

IF this relates to you in any kind of way, and helps you to make your decision, then, Be Blessed!!!

This is an illustrative-message scene from the movie "The Color Purple" ...

(music) song, "God is trying to tell you something" (.. re-establishment of a key and important relationship, scene The Color Purple) [5:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD5uPZzBr5c

It's really up to you. Whatever you decide becomes a destined opportunity of some kind.

If you've EVER heard any stories about NDE's ... they point at our 'relationships'.
Some things we gain sooo much, by sticking with it, and working things out.

Everyone has a Worth and Value.
How much of that do you want to invest, in yourself (actually)-- it could reap rewards? .. like being in a game and not opening a treasure and finding a Jewel you'd need for your Future.

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Hello, thank you for such a good feedback and answer

I just wanted to say that its been bothering me because she ruined my 2 relationships at the beginning.
She comes from a family that she has never gotten an attention from parents and she told me that.
We have known each other since high school so i thought i was her best friend. She named me that.
But later it turned out that she only needed an attention and she was naming a loft of her friends from differend groups - best friend-.
but it doesnt matter.

Once she ruined my relationship in 2010 when i started hanging out with some man.
He was form her class so immidiatelly when she noticed that i was his gf she became the 3rd.
I didnt have nothing against because i knew she had a boyfriend.
But actually i regret that i let her in my life.

Finally we broke up because of her and she friendzoned my ex to the point that he left the country.

A few years after she was single and of course i was the 1st to help her around, because she was 'hurt'. i wanted also her to make an agreement with her mum because they had problems.
But instead of this and instead of listening to me and some other friends about helping her relationship with her mum, she preffered drinking smoking and partying with other people.

And whenever we ( as good friends) were inviting her somewhere or were buying her presents she was always disturbed, not glad about it because we showe emotions and she didnt like showing emotions.
( because it hurt her from childchood) BUT anyway , she must have been surrounded by a guard of people, especially men, whom she was occasionally sleeping with and i was th eonly one who knew that.
I Told noone.

And she must have had guards like knights because she had a control of a situation. Whenever a new girls appeared in a circle of friends she immidiately became her best friend, and after a while she we kicking her out from the company 'saying that the girl was too weak for the company

When she introduced me again to the company i was interested with some man, he was interested in me. She became jealous. When we started dating she didnt agree with that , she was always interrupting, calling him even when i was at his place.. Asking him to pick her up and so one.
Even though SHE HAD A NEW BOYFRIEND>
SHE must have disturbed.

People abandoned her.
People were telling she pulls the strings, but it was not true because people LET her pull strings. She was playing the hurt VICTIM all the time because she came from a broken family had problems and somehow SHE COULD behave inapropriately... Everyone LET HER because it was 'her'.
I have never agreed with that and i was very strict about my habits and my beliefs thats why she couldnt understand and she felt jealous.

Now she has 5 year old younger bf whom she can control. My ex is not with me, even after a brak up she was too interested in our life.

I remained silent , she was always inviting him for movies and smoking so he was getting her invitations... WHo wouldnt get? Single man who is after a break up smokes with his friend.

SO she was using that moments.

One year after when we were maybe getting back and he posted some pic on fb with me- she AGAIN started to be visible in my life and started to appear between companies just to know about me. And to control me.

She is not into him. She just has control issues. She has a bf since 3 years and they are happy.

Everyday she posts pics on instagram about them.
He never posts anything.

Shemust have a publicity and attention.

Before i was sirry of her history. Even after 1st break up and her being the 3rd i forgave her. BUt then i didnt. I totally cut her.

SHe doesnt have a knights surrounded anymore. They all have abandoned her because they are now having their own lives.

And she uses other instagram people to be popular.

She only hangs out with her bf company with 5 year younger people. Because she can be the best and she can control the situation.