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Topic: Kylie Jenner's baby
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Spica Knowflake Posts: 1326 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 08, 2018 11:44 AM
I feel so bad for her baby, she was born on February 1, 2018 at 4:43Her chart is horrible. Her father's going to be a really bad and horrible father, he won't give her confidence and encouragement, but the complete opposite, he'll give her no warmth or affection, alienate her and be hard on her, affecting her really bad emotionally. Because of this she will feel like a no one and feel misunderstood and as if her image and identity is a sacrifice, she will not be taken seriously and misunderstood and disrespected. She will feel insignificant. She will have a lot of pent up frustration and anger built up in her because of this, and we don't know what she could do about it. Her mother will be caring and fulfill the role of a mother in a good way, providing her comfort and safety, but her behaviour towards her daughter is horrible, which will also have bad impact on her. I see Kylie being neglecting, emotionally as well, to her daughter and gets angry at her easily and may even be violent towards her. But she will give her daughter a lot of freedom, sometimes too much freedom. But in general it's really painful to see her chart. I see that she will be nice to others and have good manners (the baby) when she grows up. But she will be raised taught to be more considerate than caring and being self loving before everything. I also see health problems, but I see her baby will be very intelligent and sane despite everything. What makes it more sad is because the moon and Venus are placed in a way that makes her genuinely someone with a good heart and soul, good intentions for people and who is sane and intelligent. She doesn't deserve to have such an afflicted sun, when she sun is afflicted you do not get credit, recognition for your talents and good traits. It's really important for the sun to be healthy. It makes a person deal with feeling really misunderstood, invalidated, humiliated, treated insignificant and disrespected. Like anyone can walk over her, get away with treating her however they want. That's what her sun is like. I was really disappointed in seeing her chart, it doesn't matter who it is, it's another soul who came to live with us on earth, I feel sad seeing her sun and moon being afflicted in their own way. She has one of the most afflicted sun I've seen. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 2169 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted February 08, 2018 11:48 AM
Maybe things won't be so bad 😞IP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 1326 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 08, 2018 11:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Maybe things won't be so bad 😞
I hope so, but the chart can't lie :/ hopefully she has a lucky star somewhere in the chart, saving her a little. I am sending her all my blessings and love. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 6944 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 08, 2018 12:00 PM
Well being born in that family will give a child severe mental illness no matter who it is.IP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 1326 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 08, 2018 12:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Well being born in that family will give a child severe mental illness no matter who it is.
You can tell in the video how fake and forced they were all sounding, couldn't see any genuine emotions, really sad. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 6944 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 08, 2018 12:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Spica: You can tell in the video how fake and forced they were all sounding, couldn't see any genuine emotions, really sad.
They're so odd and constantly want attention. I don't get people's obsession with them. I dislike them so I avoid them. People dislike them so they give them attention. WHY?
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 1007 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted February 08, 2018 01:16 PM
Can you explain how you came to this conclusion? I just looked at her chart and her Sun doesn't appear to be THAT badly afflicted...I've definitely seen worse. IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3071 From: Registered: Oct 2014
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posted February 08, 2018 01:34 PM
Just based off observing Kylie Jenner’s natal c hart it seems to me that she is very insecure and could be mentally ill. But i hate to make assumptions on people that i don’t know and plus I’m not sure if her ascendant either because all of that has to be considered as well. My observation is just based off of the receiving aspects from other planets, asteroids etc. ------------------ starsaboveyoureadings.com Astrologer, Medium, and Lenormand Reader! IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 08, 2018 09:30 PM
Am I missing something? I checked her chart, and I don't see her Sun afflicted at all. An opposition and a semisextile is not what I would consider to be afflicted. What am I missing here?Sun conjunct Venus Sun conjunct Mercury Sun opposite ASC Sun semisextile Neptune Sun quintile Uranus Sun quintile MC The moon is not really afflicted either. There is only one square and one opposition to her Moon. There's an inconjunct too. Everything else is a trine. It all evens out imo. Where is this terribly afflicted situation? I am lost. Did you put her birth time as PM or AM? It is 4:43 PM not AM. 16:43 on the birth certificate they released. Please check your chart.
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erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1903 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted February 08, 2018 09:39 PM
I agree...her Sun is not afflicted if the time of birth is correct? IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 08, 2018 09:43 PM
Also, I see nothing specific in her chart that would indicate the father is a worse parent than the mother. If anything, it would be the other way around (if we were going to be that dramatic about this). Her sun is in the 7th and while I am well aware that some dramatic people associate the 7th house as "the house of enemies", this is also the house of balance, social graces, and relationships. Sun in 7th does not mean she will have a problematic father figure to deal with. Maybe her father has enemies HE needs to deal with but it does not mean they as a parent and child will have issues. Sun conjunct Venus and Mercury will show this even more. Relationship with the father is very loving and communicative. Moon is inconjunct Mercury though so you know that baby will not be very communicative to Kylie about practically everything and anything. Moon is in the 2nd house so the baby may feel, at times, that Kylie is using her to maintain personal wealth (Kylie is already trying to do this by having the entire new season of her show revolving around her baby's life and the pregnancy. Mess.) Saturn is in the 6th so she might have bone problems or something wrong with her knees or legs. She might not exercise/go outside a lot, which can cause her bones and muscles to be a bit weaker than most. She has to work harder in this area to stay healthy. Mercury is home in the 6th so it shouldn't be too troublesome. Relationship with the mother will definitely be a bit worse though both parents will maintain a good relationship with her. How did you come to such a drastic conclusion again?? IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 08, 2018 09:50 PM
I'm sorry to keep spamming but really what did you do ? I'm just curious. I did the baby's chart at 4:43 AM just to see if that's where you went wrong but even then the sun is not afflicted at all STILL. Did you use the wrong birth year perhaps? How did you get these conclusions I really wanna know....IP: Logged |
Gracha Knowflake Posts: 473 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 08, 2018 09:58 PM
Huhhhhh???? Maybe you're projecting. You can't predict something like that, only time will tell. YikesIP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 1326 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 08, 2018 11:08 PM
You guys don't know what is an afflicted sun. Forget it. I don't do modern astrology. There is a certain rules and way to read the chart is has almost nothing to do with the astrology you know, you guys do psychological modern astrology which is not false but it's not the actual astrology, it's modern day more for entertainment and psychological understanding.IP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 1326 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 08, 2018 11:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: Also, I see nothing specific in her chart that would indicate the father is a worse parent than the mother. If anything, it would be the other way around (if we were going to be that dramatic about this). Her sun is in the 7th and while I am well aware that some dramatic people associate the 7th house as "the house of enemies", this is also the house of balance, social graces, and relationships. Sun in 7th does not mean she will have a problematic father figure to deal with. Maybe her father has enemies HE needs to deal with but it does not mean they as a parent and child will have issues. Sun conjunct Venus and Mercury will show this even more. Relationship with the father is very loving and communicative. Moon is inconjunct Mercury though so you know that baby will not be very communicative to Kylie about practically everything and anything. Moon is in the 2nd house so the baby may feel, at times, that Kylie is using her to maintain personal wealth (Kylie is already trying to do this by having the entire new season of her show revolving around her baby's life and the pregnancy. Mess.) Saturn is in the 6th so she might have bone problems or something wrong with her knees or legs. She might not exercise/go outside a lot, which can cause her bones and muscles to be a bit weaker than most. She has to work harder in this area to stay healthy. Mercury is home in the 6th so it shouldn't be too troublesome. Relationship with the mother will definitely be a bit worse though both parents will maintain a good relationship with her. How did you come to such a drastic conclusion again??
Omg... *hits head on the wall* Forget it. Ignore my thread. IP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 1326 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 08, 2018 11:12 PM
If you guys don't believe me show me your charts and I'll do a reading for you with a "drastic conclusion" and let me know then if it's true or false.IP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 1326 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 08, 2018 11:14 PM
Only a modern astrology believer would think her sun is not afflicted. Only a modern astrologer... lolIP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 08, 2018 11:17 PM
Do you use Vedic astrology?IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6213 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 09, 2018 05:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spica: I feel so bad for her baby, she was born on February 1, 2018 at 4:43Her chart is horrible. Her father's going to be a really bad and horrible father, he won't give her confidence and encouragement, but the complete opposite, he'll give her no warmth or affection, alienate her and be hard on her, affecting her really bad emotionally. Because of this she will feel like a no one and feel misunderstood and as if her image and identity is a sacrifice, she will not be taken seriously and misunderstood and disrespected. She will feel insignificant. She will have a lot of pent up frustration and anger built up in her because of this, and we don't know what she could do about it. Her mother will be caring and fulfill the role of a mother in a good way, providing her comfort and safety, but her behaviour towards her daughter is horrible, which will also have bad impact on her. I see Kylie being neglecting, emotionally as well, to her daughter and gets angry at her easily and may even be violent towards her. But she will give her daughter a lot of freedom, sometimes too much freedom. But in general it's really painful to see her chart. I see that she will be nice to others and have good manners (the baby) when she grows up. But she will be raised taught to be more considerate than caring and being self loving before everything. I also see health problems, but I see her baby will be very intelligent and sane despite everything. What makes it more sad is because the moon and Venus are placed in a way that makes her genuinely someone with a good heart and soul, good intentions for people and who is sane and intelligent. She doesn't deserve to have such an afflicted sun, when she sun is afflicted you do not get credit, recognition for your talents and good traits. It's really important for the sun to be healthy. It makes a person deal with feeling really misunderstood, invalidated, humiliated, treated insignificant and disrespected. Like anyone can walk over her, get away with treating her however they want. That's what her sun is like. I was really disappointed in seeing her chart, it doesn't matter who it is, it's another soul who came to live with us on earth, I feel sad seeing her sun and moon being afflicted in their own way. She has one of the most afflicted sun I've seen.
No offense but I felt like I was reading a Vedic Astrology description. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6213 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 09, 2018 05:06 AM
Hmm you actually have a point, Sun in Detriment in House of Fall.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6213 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 09, 2018 05:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Well being born in that family will give a child severe mental illness no matter who it is.
Haha *clap* IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 6944 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 09, 2018 05:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spica: You guys don't know what is an afflicted sun. Forget it. I don't do modern astrology. There is a certain rules and way to read the chart is has almost nothing to do with the astrology you know, you guys do psychological modern astrology which is not false but it's not the actual astrology, it's modern day more for entertainment and psychological understanding.
I agree. Psychological New Age Astrology is not nearly as accurate as Classical Astrology. The latter has a tried and true system.
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 6944 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 09, 2018 05:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gracha: Huhhhhh???? Maybe you're projecting. You can't predict something like that, only time will tell. Yikes
Why do you people always say something is "projecting" when we say anything negative about anything? Delusion.
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 6944 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 09, 2018 05:58 AM
Why the Sun is AfflictedDetriment in Aquarius Peregrine (neither in its own Triplicity, Term, or Face) Conjunct Malefic South Node (Dragon's Tail) Conjunct Venus (thereby Combust) Square Jupiter @capricorncheriscty Mercury is Under The Beams and Venus is Combust. These are not good aspects.
DRAMATIC? Seventh House being the house of enemies (amongst other things) is what Astrology is lol you people don't know anything about Astrology and want to make up your own rules which is why 90% of these Astrologers provide lukewarm and frankly, GARBAGE interpretations. The Moon is not the Mother but instead we find that out by the Tenth House Lord, Co-signifer, and Almuten. 2nd House represents THEIR wealth. Not others Mercury is preferred in the First House. Mars is preferred for the Sixth House. Study some actual Astrology and maybe you'd understand.
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Gbear77 Knowflake Posts: 62 From: England Registered: Jan 2015
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posted February 09, 2018 08:43 AM
babies natal charts shouldnt be read. for someone to say negative things about what a babies future will be like based on natal chart is projecting their own shadow side. shadow side isnt a bad thing, we all do it. the things you dont like about others are the things you havent accepted within yourself. change the way you look at things and the things you look at change. IP: Logged |