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Davina98
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posted February 11, 2018 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Davina98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I met this guy in December of 2016. For months we talked and he said he didn't like me the way that I did but I never really accepted it until today, even though I tried to give him space. Around the month of May 2017 he kinda started being more into me. Picking me up from work a few times so we coud talk.. We even had sex one night. Neptune had just crossed my Descendant. While I was on vacation, right after we had sex once, while Mars was in a positive aspect with my ascendant, he didn't want to talk to me ever again. I felt so destroyed I had the worst vacay ever. When I thought I was over him, the feelings still persisted even long after he basically told me to f*** off.. I went looking for all types of excuses as to why he would be wrong for not loving me. Like that I was ill and depressed.. and that because of that he couldn't see the real me and the part of me that is lovable. But that if he did he would love me so hard. Long story short, he blocked me from all social media.. yeah I know... ouch. Neptune retrograding back into my 6th house drove me crazy... All this sounds like a sad Neptune story but it is also the workings Pluto inconjunct venus at the same time. After I couldn't talk to him anymore, I met a guy at work. That was in December 2017. A regular customer. Same thing happened and I scared him away with my feelings. This Time was worst though, I threatened to break the windows out of his car when I would see it. Pluto was Inconjunct my Venus for the third time. I am not a bad person, even though I sound like one right now. I am tired... so tired of having no control over this longing for these two particular men. What is the lesson of Pluto here? It is supposed to empower and change me for the better. But I am just killing myself more everyday when the feelings for these two men won't go away. I think about them everyday. Everynight. What is this supposed to teach me?? To suffer in silence and die if I have to? I tried everything to stop thinking about them .. everything. I even pray a lot now.


My chart info is July 10 1998, 10:16 AM Montréal, QC, Canada
Someone please enlighten me on this. Neptune is a few degrees from my DC again, and Pluto will be ending my Venus in October. When am I going to find peace?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted February 12, 2018 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a lot going on in your chart;

*Your natal Sun and progressed Moon are square to each other. And this usually brings about some instability both in the professional and domestic life.

*Transiting Pluto is zoning in on your progressed Moon and is not far from your natal Sun(separating). So this "evil" twin that you see coming out of you, its Pluto not accepting or being ok with with moving on and letting things slide.

*Also to complicate matters, your progressed Venus and Mars are conjunct in Cancer 12/15 Degrees respectively. So that is why in love relationships you may feel like you are just going cray cray.

*Neptune also trines this progressed Venus/Mars in Cancer and conjuncts your Dsc. So its not altogether a time where you are seeing things clearly when it comes to relationships.

* Neptune will also brush up against natal Venus later. Its wide square now is adding to what is happening. But its the closer aspects that I am looking at that seems to be driving things.

*Uranus will make its way to square the natal Moon sometime during the year. And perhaps progressed Moon will interact with transiting Uranus before it squares natal Moon this year too.

For now take note that your feelings are intense and you could be "lovesick" with progressed Venus/Mars conjunct in Cancer. Believing that you HAVE to have someone.

This is intensified by trans Pluto/ progressed Moon square. And perhaps trans Uranus/natal Moon square later this year may help you to just let go and let things happen instead of trying to control them.

Its not a great time to be having anything casual. Cancer is very emotional and the aspect of Pluto to natal Sun/ progressed Moon in natal suggests that what the other may assume is a fun roll in the hay,may mean a lot more to you right now.

That Neptune in 7th house could have you become too trusting and giving of yourself too easily because you wish for a happy ending. Natal Jupiter in Pisces is also conjunct progressed Descendant. So this also adds to that illusion.

Take it easy and pull back. Its not a great time to be doing too much. There is too much happening right now for you to think clearly or respond in a way that is mindful.

Take on gym or a hobby right now and try to chill out as much as you can. Leave the man drama alone for now, it'll only hurt the deeper you go and you will become very resentful and angry when it does.


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Davina98
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posted February 12, 2018 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Davina98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But who dosen’t need someone? All I do is work my ass off standing all day, everyday. My feet and knees hurt from weeks ago and up until now. Customers are either rude or sexually harass me. Old disgusting men especially. Then after being stared at in the metro by more disgusting pervs feeling like they have the right to stare at me, looking for a reaction, I come home and face more stress with my confusingly currelsome family (Mother & Sister).. Don’t know what I will do with my life ever since Neptune squared my Midheaven like five times... have no passion for anything anymore because they all let me down. I am not saying having a boyfriend will erase all my problems. I just need some one to remind me that life is not all so bad. What’s so impeaching about that? Are you saying I am doomed for another few more years, Aries23Degrees?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 12, 2018 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Davina, the greater portion of the dynamic you've described is actually being set up by Pluto [21-22° South] in transit contra-parallel your natal Venus [21N52]. So this is no ordinary quincunx (inconjuct/150°) transit. This contra-parallel functions as an opposition does. In addition, Pluto has been opposite your natal Sun in Cancer. So this is far less the work of indefinite, nebulous Neptune, and far more obsessive, all-or-nothing Pluto. These influences deal in inordinate attraction, attraction and relationship in which there is a power imbalance, craving, or use/abuse of one or both parties -- until we learn to bring the related feelings into balance. That usually means dealing with underlying feelings of inadequacy and insecurity.

As far as the timing of this learning process you are in, Pluto's transit has begun its contra-parallel to your natal Sun as well, and that is a time of personal reform and empowerment based on what you've been learning over the last year or so. Things will settle down a bit by the end of this year when Pluto's quincunx to your natal Venus is over. Then in early 2020 the intensity will calm down quite a bit more. But you'll still have Pluto's transit contra-parallel your natal Sun and Venus through at least the first half of 2022.

That does not mean you will still feel this level of emotional intensity that long. You're in the most intense period for the combined Pluto transits now.

This experience is partly because due to the natal aspect of Sun parallel Venus (at about 22° South), your desire to give and receive love is naturally pronounced. The transits you are going through now are giving you clues as to how you will behave under relational stress unless you grow through it and draw on a deeper sense of self. What Pluto does is bring up latent urges and drives from the unconscious level. Then we can see them externalized and get an objective view of parts of ourselves that have been hiding in the shadows.

You'll have to learn the difference between genuine power and control. You don't control others, you control yourself and your responses. Power over others is not empowerment, but control. Expectations that build up possible, likely, or assumed outcomes are nearly always the culprit -- within our own minds.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 12, 2018 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Aries23Degrees
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posted February 12, 2018 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amen Kannon. That is essentially what I wanted to say. The words are far more eloquent above though.

@Davina98

My fear is that with all that you have listed,it suggests to me that you are looking for someone else to come along and "rescue" you from your life. As if to answer a long held yearning etc.

It could be that someone indeed does catch your eye(not necessarily always the right person) and then you project all that "savior" mentality on to them. When they disappoint or fail to live up to your expectations, you may react very passionately.

I am not saying that life will always seem this "hopeless". I just think that one is better off jump-starting themselves and getting into the mode of self-appreciation and also for all they see is good around them, before expecting other people to do that on their behalf.

Yes, there are times when one feels like they no longer want to travel the road alone. And perhaps those moments of realization are indeed the most painful above all.

But seldom do we get a partner when we are "looking" and feeling unfulfilled. We get someone who senses this energy in us and then takes some more.

Its not easy , I understand. The yearning for someone and not just anyone, is fundamental to many people. But the problem comes with the momentum of expectations we bring to the table i.e for the other person to be the "all and everything". Which is what easily happens when we have such a deep yearning.

Its really corny to say it, but I have found it to be true. Start this process within yourself. Appreciate yourself first. Count your own blessings. Get into that momentum of being happy in your own skin and take the noise/drama of what is happening outside you down to mute.

This feeling of being disconnected is within you. And having someone there may not have the results of mitigating it, but compounding it. Because you are searching to "receive" love more right now than you are willing to "give" without expectations.

Consider that.

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Randall
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posted February 18, 2018 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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colorful butterfly
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posted February 21, 2018 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon,

That is sooo very true!!!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 22, 2018 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Davina,

I hope I/we didn't come across as preachy, because I have been there. I know what unrequited love and hugely disappointed feelings are. I know what it is like for someone I loved with my whole being to die.

But the intensity of the feelings can be transmuted into genuine unconditional love, but only if we let go of all ugliness and selfishness within our hearts and elevate ourselves above it. Anyone can do that.

In 1996 when I had the unrequited love experience I mentioned above, I also had trouble with another female friend who decided she hated me for one little failure (a promise that I never made to her). The things she said to me were terribly hurtful, and I lost my friend. She decided to hate me, but I decided to love her anyway -- from a distance by literally praying for her happiness every single day for a whole month. You may not be a religious person. I wasn't either, but it was the only solution to transcend the painful and ugly situation.

Maybe you'll find something useful in this. I would love to tell you about the mind-blowing continuation of the unrequited love story. Turns out, things happened that way for a reason, a really really good reason agreed upon in perfect love between we two souls before we were born. She came to me in a dream a few years after she died -- as my daughter. It was the most light-filled amazing dream of my life. I was sitting in a rocking chair holding this baby girl and recognized her eyes!

I never anticipated that turn of events! I was so swallowed up in the limited human perspective that I wanted her, that it never occurred to me that she would want me too -- as my daddy. I am elated with this arrangement and it is in the works since I now have a mate. I am honored beyond description, because when I loved her in her previous form I told God/Source I would do anything for her. I would take any and all of her pain or suffering upon myself -- and I meant it!

I hesitated to even tell this story because it is so personal, but I have decided to stop holding these experiences of my heart inside me. They need to be shared. There is so much more possible for we souls having this human experience, and so much to fill the heart with joy -- if we only make room.

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Davina98
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posted February 23, 2018 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Davina98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you everyone. Your efforts to show me light are bearing fruit. I’ve gained deeper insight into my emotional/spiritual solutions with this problem graced by all of your replies.

Kannon McAfee, your story is moving... and indeed very intimate and personal but it was necessary for me to come across it today. I can understand now that love is so much bigger than my persistent angry feelings. You ARE a demonstration of unconditional love yourself. Willingly pouring your soul out to a complete stranger just to shed them some of your light. You are truly blessed, but God bless you more!!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 24, 2018 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very kind of you, Davina. I wish you all the best in Love and Life.

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