posted February 17, 2018 06:29 PM            

The grand air trine involves mercury,MC and jupiter.

posted February 18, 2018 01:20 AM            

Infact some astrologers do rectification based on the Mc/Ic and then the equivalent Ac/DC point is found by default.

Some say Asc in Sag. Others say Cap. She does not strike me as airy nor earthy but fiery really.

I remember watching a doc about her and they said that she was a "force" and won people over due to the sheer dominance of her personality.

I vote Sag. And the grand trine would perhaps explain her love for books/reading and communication as a medium to stamp her mark on the world.

posted February 18, 2018 03:08 PM            

She has lots and lots of forcefull charisma too, makes me believe she has Leo somewhere, and well I dont think sagg is Charismatic at all. And I just now saw her Pluto is in Leo. She maybe a Leo asc with pluto in the asc.

posted February 18, 2018 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
I don't see her as charismatic.I know people will say we need to be that to lead a show for 25 years but I think is more because she is very authentic.She says what she want,what she thinks it's right but with respect and people respect her for that.She is also down to earth and humble.That's how I see her but it doesn't mean I'm right.Aries23degrees said something great about it and it is really true

People come out differently for different people.

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I don't know what you think charisma is, but she is the cover female for charisma. A magnetic personality that captures people and draws them in, for ex Hitler had a charisma also, even though it was an of putting type off charisma. And with that said, I don't like Oprahs energy. And all that being open and open minded and shring etc etc, its all an act, its not genuine at all, or well, thats how I feel anyway. I don't find her energy genuine, I think she is good at manupulating people and creating false closeness, and thats a type of charisma. I'm very plutonic and believe me, I can sense false type of genuinity very fast!

Like Tom Cruise, He is very charismatic, if you look at how he acts on interviews. But its all an act.

posted February 18, 2018 07:42 PM            

I get what you mean and I was totally wrong to say she is not charismatic.

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cha·ris·ma

compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.
a divinely conferred power or talent.

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Every celebrity that have devoted fans is a charismatic person.Maybe some are a little more but they all have high charisma.I don't think is a Leo matter.

posted February 19, 2018 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
Melinn

I get what you mean and I was totally wrong to say she is not charismatic.
Every celebrity that have devoted fans is a charismatic person.Maybe some are a little more but they all have high charisma.I don't think is a Leo matter.

I like her energy.I like the fact that she isn't superficial as other celebrities and I like that she talks about serious things.

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Ok we understand each other then!

Yes of course you are right, all kind of celebrities have charisma. BUT also we normal non-celebrities have charm, I mean the planet Venus is afterall the planet of charm and all humans have Venus in theirs charts, in contact with the sun. Some of us can develop that "charm" to charisma. Some have natural high charisma. Some has to work more on it etc.

However I have to say that, I really think her "accepting" manners is all an act to be able to be in show business of course. In order to become a celebrity. Its all about power!

Also one can often see how she struggles to be open but silently judges (she is aquarius afterall).

So shortly, I believe she has created Oprah to become a superstar in show bussiness, to gain power, and all that "genuinity" is an act.I don't like her energy. But yes I do like the work she has done and how she takes up for the sociaty important subjects.

posted February 19, 2018 06:03 PM            

I believe the coolness of Aquarius is what some are picking up on. There is ice in those veins. She's also Sun/Mars, which is naturally combative.

posted February 20, 2018 02:37 PM            

Will and Grace once poked fun at her when Jack did the Oprah "hug" with Karyn ..."Good for you. Good for you"

There is always a way the Sun sign position leaves a signature. No matter how "fiery" or "watery" the rest of the placements may be.I find that so fascinating.

I think the only people who understand the contradictory nature of Aqua i.e.they feel close to you when you are far.But feel far from you when you are close etc. are people with Pisces, Cap, Aqua,Virgo and Sag energy.

The above energies are not demanding of attention and give the other person as much space and personal freedom as possible.

Which makes the relationship/friendship work in the long run.

I looked at Gayle King- her best friend for years- and she has Cap Sun/Aqua Moon with Saturn square Moon and Saturn conjunct Venus,Mercury in Cap and Pisces Mars.