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KarkaQueen
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posted February 21, 2018 08:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well....

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glamour was spelled wrong in the OP. i m mad.

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posted February 21, 2018 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 5H Sag Neptune in a stellium, conjunct with multiple planets and sextile to my sun and yet another stellium. Drugs aren't important to me at all, though I do value the insights I gained on shrooms when I was 14.

And glamour isn't important either. I generally prefer to blend in and be overlooked as it's safer, which probably has more to do with the childhood that shaped me more than anything else, though it could be argued to be a Neptunian trait as people can see me as being completely different than I am (but one could argue that virtually all people have an inaccurate view of everyone around them).

The one exception is when I used costumes, at which point I even got a prescription for contacts just so I could get eye color changing contacts to use in my costume, and also enjoyed various sorts of LARPing (Live Action Role Playing). If I had the time and money when I was younger I'm sure I'd have done a lot of cosplaying as well as going to fun events that involved dressing up (Ren Faires, cowboy action shooting, etc). I'd attribute this more to my Leo ASC, though Neptune could easily facilitate my imagination and roleplaying abilities, and it's important to note that this would not be my style, just for special events where everyone else was doing the same.


My mother, OTOH, sees her time as a model as her glory days and keeps her modeling portfolio (perhaps the tales of her degradation by modeling agencies as well as unhappy as she's been with all her glamor is another reason I wasn't inclined to be glamorous). She's a major alcoholic and dabbles in other drugs. Her Scorpio Neptune is conjunct her Venus, and also in the same sign as her sun and merc. Still, I'd attribute her glamor side more to her Leo ASC, N. Node, and Mars along with her Libra Lilith.

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posted February 21, 2018 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun conjunct Neptune, with various other Neptune aspects in the natal. Drug aren't important, alcohol can be fun if I'm out with friends but I'm very self-controlled (Saturn sextile Sun, and in my 5th house) with it. I need caffeine to function (caffeine is the most commonly consumed drug). Glamor isn't the most important, but I have my moments and I do sometimes dwell in beautiful things (Leo moon, Venus in 4th).

I have Neptune in my 3rd house. I think fantasy, day-dreaming, and imagination means the most to me. I can make up an imaginary scenario in my head, get lost in it, and fall asleep to a dream about it. It's pretty cool.

I'm also a deeply romantic person and have pretty idealistic ideas about a partner/soulmate.

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posted February 21, 2018 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 0% of desire for drugs.I don't like alcohol and I cut caffeine easily months ago. (I was never really into anyway)
I'm not sure about glamour.What do you mean?

I'm super romantic and I have high expectations in love.I also daydream a lot.It sucks!Sometimes it is hard to keep me grouded.That's how I experience neptune.I hope it helps.

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posted February 21, 2018 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Karkaqueen. Lol

You really are a Cap Asc to worry about the spelling. Coz a lot of people on here don't care for that.

So my Mercury/Mc conjunct in Cap understands. I detest spelling mistakes coming from me and when I can't rectify them...

On to the topic. Drugs are important to me i.e weed and wine etc. I love have psychedelic experiences and like it when people drink in social occasions as you get to see what they are hiding from others underneath all those walls.

I have a stellium in 9th that includes Neptune and my varsity days were very much alcohol/sex and rock n roll. Its a miracle I made it with a degree.

Neptune also parallels my Mc.

I think Neptune has us believe that just like we have to at times, most people are wearing masks and playing pretend. So drugs/alcohol disarm the masks that they wear and leave them "naked".

That part of seeing them that way is exciting.

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posted February 21, 2018 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not a Pisces and I don't really think I'm extremely Neptunian BUT I do have a Scorpio stellium. Also, Neptune squares my Moon, sextiles my Sun, quintiles my mercury, and semisquares my mars with no aspect over 2 degrees. Mars is in my 7th but rules my 12th.

I love marijuana although I don't consider it a drug,
but there are many people who would argue against that.

I love getting lost in a fantasy world,
but only when reality is secure.

Otherwise, my anxiety kicks in overdrive.

I love artsy things and tumblr was my obsession in High School.

I love romance, love songs, the BEACH, etc.

I have no boundaries in any of my relationships and I expect total oneness with my partner.

I pick up on vibes and I’m very sensitive to my environment (Cancer rules my 3rd so this probably has something to do with it too).

I don’t have many friends because I’m not an easy person to get to know. I don’t open up easily to people.

I look at life as just one big journey. I lost my lust for life back in college once I realized how hard life actually IS.

Plus, I think this new Aquarian age puts an added eccentric touch to the overall vibe of this new generation. Neptune fused with Uranus creates a big ball of creativity and uniqueness.

Glamour as in beauty?

I have a libra moon conjunct Jupiter so I’m in love with beauty. BUT my Scorpio Venus sort of puts a darak touch to it all. Jupiter inconjuncts my ASC and conjuncts my Jupiter so it’s still a mixed bag.

Just pulling from my Neptune, I would say no not really. Neptune in my chart allows me to escape so the last thing I would want is attention.

I only get dressed up and glamorous when I’m in the mood and have the money which has been rare lately.

I don’t crave or even care for attention unless it’s from my partner or I’m in the mood so my appearance is pretty much the same.

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I have a very prominent Neptune, parallel & conjunct my Ascendant, opposite & contraparallel my Sun.

Here's some common Neptunian things I agree on

-Fascination with glamour, the entertainment industry in particular the music industry, the whole mystery and smokes and mirrors of it all, and love of most kinds of extravagance and theatrical nonsense. A wide and fertile imagination. Yes.

-A deep sense of intuition, and psychic ability I guess, and becoming so enamored with fantasies and artistic visions.

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I think Neptune has us believe that just like we have to at times, most people are wearing masks and playing pretend. So drugs/alcohol disarm the masks that they wear and leave them "naked".

Agreed!

Here's what I don't

-Lack of boundaries.. actually I really love boundaries and uphold them, which is why I get mad at disrespectful and offensive things. that being said, I do seem drawn to strange situations that have no boundaries, and anything goes kind of thing. Though that probably has to do with that Sun-Neptune-ASC nonsense.


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posted February 21, 2018 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune is strong in my chart.My moon and mars are in pisces ,neptune squares my moon ,and makes the closest aspect in my chart to asc ruler.I never liked drugs cause i dont like that kind of waste,but i was fascinated by drug addicts ,maybe cause i thought i could save them somehow so i used to be close to people that were deeply addicted in hard drugs.Finally i realised that we can only save ourselves and rarely others.Also i dont like glamour in any type ,i think its fake .I like to see things that maybe different or bizarre but not glamorous.

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posted February 21, 2018 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JakeMasi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune is in my first house and im addicted, and prior to the age of 15 i escaped using the internet constantly lol

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posted February 21, 2018 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pisces MC and I am Neptune dominant and I don't care for drugs . I don't see any point in using them. I mean, I understand why others use them but I just think there are better ways to solve your problems than diving into the drug world. I would never drink alcohol either. Tastes disgusting and does nothing good for the body. My Venus and Pluto are in 6th though.

I looove glamour. Okay. Rihanna is beautiful and she is always always always one of my style inspirations but she is just such a Pisces. I hate following sun sign astrology sometimes but she is just such a Pisces and I look up to her style so much! Lady Gaga too. I love that quirky but beautiful and exotic sh*t. I can't stand some of the fashion on the runways these days though. It looks stupid and trying too hard. I think there is good way to be glamourous and a bad way to be glamourous. Alexander McQueen and Versace had it right every time...

I love glamour and if I had the money I would waste it all on glamourous products and live the rest of my life like that. We can dream.

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posted February 21, 2018 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun is conjunct neptune too and neptune is opposite my NN and aspecting my ASC loosely. Neptune has me by a dirty leash.

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posted February 21, 2018 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not drugs like in substances , but I'm addicted to tv-series and movies. And chocolate. I read on astrofix blog "A person who has a relationship with her tv". And its correct for me. A way to escape reality and boredom.

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posted February 21, 2018 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drug, in a sense of able to close my eyes and dream off to something not found in reality is important to me. I don't think I can go a day without it -- Music, games, nature walks, substances but all in moderation. Otherwise I would fall in panic mode not supporting my basic needs first.

Glamour doesnt have to be in reality because it already is in my head. I do enjoy a nice romance here and there. Also beautifying myself for special occasion.

I used to go to raves and get lost in the music and be surround by people in costumes - fairies, butterflies, bunnies, other random dress up -- but it's rarely the case anymore.

I love led, fairy lights, glow in the dark, candles, star gazing. It's all mystifying. as long I can be in the place surrounded by that -- it feels I'm in a different world.

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posted February 21, 2018 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if I have prominent Neptune.
I have pisces moon in 9th H
Sun in 12th H
And Neptune opposite Sun and ASC
Neptune is exactly on the cusp of my 7th H along with Uranus.

I always was disliked drugs and especially drug addicts. I see them as very weak people and I have no respect for them with the only exception of children who were given drugs by parents or other relatives.
I've been drugs only once in my life because I drunk with an empty stomach. I didn't like it at all. I felt empty and had no interest in anything my face was very serious and cold.
But I once was druged by a doctor for a test.
Oh my God! Happiness is an understatement. For about 6 hours straight I was sitting on the couch and just looking at the wall but I felt so deeply fullfilled, free and happy like I was in paradise.
I wish I could do drugs but I know I won't do it. (Saturn in 8th H aqua) Seeing how shity life is and considering the fact that I don't want family and marriage nor to get old I honestly feel like it would be worth it to do drugs in my case.
Escaping to my imaginary world was something I could easily do as a kid and teen but since health problems, deaths and other problems began I have difficulty doing it. It's like the heaviness of the reality doesn't allow me to completely escape. I can kind of do it through music but I don't feel the pleasure I felt..
I would like to be invisible, I like blending with others when it comes to music.. I have a huge thing for music.. It is like it's my drug but it also feels like it isn't strong enough anymore.
I also need too much alone time.

The worst of all is the platonic love..
When I am in love with someone I only have the need to have a platonic relationship with him anything more is just destroying my love.
I can't feel the need to have sex with someone I am in love.. I have the need to touch him and hug him and kiss me but in such a pure way.. The real problem is that I don't see sex as a way to bond with someone I see it as a physical pleasure and nothing more.. When I am just sexually attracted to someone I want passionate animal sex (Pluto in 5th H square mars and venus)
Something I can't do with someone I am in love with.
Sometimes I wish we had no bodies no appearance.. I wish we could be just shapeless souls.. we would be happier that way.
I really dislike Neptune but no more than Saturn.

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posted February 21, 2018 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let a real OG Neptunian handle this question

I get told by people a lot I look prince-like, hippyish and very hard to pinpoint. I tribute this primarily to my Venus/Neptune Conjunction. I also play guitar with some bands, and make a lot of punk rock music. (Soundcloud: PaulMcfly, if you want to listen to some jams)

I'm a Pisces Sun and Saturn and Neptune is in my 3rd ruling my 5th.

Glamour isn't very important to me although I do seem to attract a "glamorous " lifestyle. I am very liberal and open to a lot. I taught myself most of the important things I know besides financial stuff. That's not my strong suit lol.

I have been creative since I was young. I acted in plays and have done a few things for some TV shows. I was in a music video as a lead for some band in Arizona which was really cool to experience. I started YouTube in 2012 and stopped when I went to college but I managed to get paid for my content and actually gained a good following. (Youtube: J3TTXZ)

But I've had my share of downfalls, I've been homeless and I've been to jail before because of my weed habit. I don't live in a weed friendly state. Pisces/Neptune brings nativity so I've been taken advantage of a lot and used because I come off so innocent and nice. It's kind of a doubled edged sword because it can truly make you look like an angel on the outside when Neptune touches your Sun, Venus or ASC. I have gotten away with a lot. It is pretty easy for me to manipulate others because of this but I don't because I'm a heavy believer in karma and a very superstitious individual.

But yeah, I still do drugs but nothing big. I have ADD/ADHD so weed helps me calm down and also find my inner inspiration. But I dabble with pills from time to time as well. I don't really do anything else because I'm too scared. I don't drink. But yes, All in all glamour doesn't matter to me but it follows me and I am a slight drug user. Everyone has a vice in my book. Do what you gotta do to make it through this life and be productive. I'm only 22 so I'm definitely wondering what's next for me. I live a pretty unique life.

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posted February 22, 2018 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok let me point out how I believe I'm Neptunian. First of all my original username here was Miss Neptune I have Neptune in the 1st H, Pisces Moon in the 3rd house and Neptune sextile Moon, quincunx sun in Leo and Square Aries Mars on IC.

I did not do any drugs until I was 19 - which was marijuana but over the years I've became more open and habve dabbled in a few other substances, although no needles. But definitely not a frequent user of drugs in fact I stopped using weed because it clouds my clarity. My real vice is alcohol - I'm a real lush, I drink daily and come from a long line of alcoholics but unlike my elders I know why I drink and I'm currently tackling these. Also its been noted that moderate drinking increases your mortality

I am very empathetic to drug users and understand why people use and the complete lack of humanness that happens as an addict. But I know to not trust them, I've had issues with friends that were drug users and tried to take advantage of me.

As far glamour - I definitely embrace old hollywood glamour and have always romanticized the 1920's. I have platinum hair reminiscent of Jayne Mansfield and would prefer to just wear fur coats actually faux fur because that is cruel and drink flutes of champagne and just be a the life of the party

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posted February 23, 2018 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are variations in the word glamor and British spelling with a "u" glamour. Same thing as the difference in spelling theater or theatre, center or centre. It's cultural variations in spelling.

Yes, those can belong to the world of modelling and charisma, fashion, make-up, etc.

- http://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/glamour

There is an esoteric philosophical meaning for the word glamour... which speaks of the person (or even a 'group', a 'nation', or the Collective as a whole) can confuse or misperceive their own perceptions.

Human beings naturally biologically cycle, affecting their levels of consciousness (sleep/wake) and spiritual-Consciousness-- awakeness and awareness, in two worlds of existence, at-once.

Drugs ... can take you INTO that world by temporary artificial chemical means (which 'might' with some people do permanent damage to parts of their brain)-- Temporary peeks into expanded Consciousness will profit you nothing without your practicing how to achieve natural altered-states WHILE living your normal healthy life-- doing BOTH, at the same time.

Meditation and Devotional-Practices can 'train' you for those states;
as well as Prayer {and Worship} leading to the Internal State of Being called 'Contemplative' Prayer.

Pray... without Ceasing
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

|| Spirit || ... Soul \ Body

| {Spirit Soul} \ in-Body


One more Viewpoint -------
Esoteric Philosophy ------

QUOTING the whole article.
{added some light punctuations,
for language clarifying purposes}
TITLE-

Glossary entry for
glamour

In esoteric teachings
the word "glamour" has a particular meaning.

Alice A. Bailey defines it as
mental illusion
when intensified by desire,
occurring on the astral plane
.

"Glamour has been likened to 'a mist or fog' in which the 'aspirant' wanders,
and which distorts
all that he sees and contacts,
preventing him from ever seeing life truly or clearly,
or the conditions surrounding him 'as they essentially are'...

He is deceived by the appearance, and forgets that which the appearance 'veils'.
The emanatory astral reactions
(which each human being initiates)
ever surround him,
and through this fog and mist
he looks out upon a distorted world."

REF (Glamour - A World Problem (1950)).

The human race is held sway, Bailey says,
"by a very ancient glamour or series of glamours, of entrenched desires,
potent aspirations of some kind,
and definitely human-made forms--
which seek to hold the consciousness of humanity upon the astral plane.
Such a glamourous concept is that {example} of money and its materialistic value.
This glamourous desire is like a dense fog, cutting off the vision of truth, and distorting a very large number of human values."
Contributed by Alan Pert, Sydney, Australia

Alice A. Bailey writes about various New Age/New Thought topics such as esoteric astrology.
This discipline attempts to understand the energies conditioning life-on-earth, beyond the (traditional astrological) planetary and zodiacal influences, to embrace the Seven Rays, their distant star sources, and other non-ecliptic fixed stars.
Ms. Bailey's book Esoteric Astrology was one of the last in a series of 19 books telepathically dictated and transmitted to her by the Tibetan Master, Djwal Khul, over a period of 30 years in the first half of this century.

The reincarnating soul (as the purposeful initiator of experience in the human kingdom) is the underlying assumption of esoteric astrology,
which asserts that all astrological influences are energies {that} 'the seeker toward mastery' must learn to manage wisely.

Van alludes to Alice Bailey in the Beautiful Vision liner notes:
"Lyrics on "Dweller on the Threshold"
and part of "Aryan Mist"
inspired by
Glamour - A World Problem
by Alice Bailey and the Tibetan"

--Contributed by Kimberly Livingston
(archived article ~Oct 2009)

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ref - http://www.oocities.org/tracybjazz/hayward/van-the-man.info/glossary/glamour.html

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posted February 23, 2018 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My NEPTUNE placement? sorry! I forgot??

NEPTUNE rx LIBRA 25(26) H10
trines Mercury Gemini
trines Mars Cancer

I have a configuration in my chart that engages planets in a connective hood, involving 24-27 degrees in consecutive signs.

Semi-sextiles (clockwise)
Neptune rx Libra 25+(26) H10
Moon Virgo 24.56 H(9)
Pluto Leo 24(25) H8canc
Jupiter-Uranus Cancer 27+,25+ H8
Mercury Gemini 27+ H7 {w/MarsCancer2+}

Neptune also sextiles NN Sag-GC 26+,27+ H1-Sag

The only two planets left out of the mix are
Venus Taurus H5 opp Saturn-rx Scorpio H11

Venus quintiles the Uranus Cancer H8


The reason I know some of the things I talk about, is that I've already Lived it. I have "lived-experience" .. maybe aka school of the world and hard-knocks.

I've walked the world of 'altered-states', including the herbal types. Every morning... for a long time.

I've lived {briefly} as a Contemplative nun.
I've been involved in mystical studies,
began to train for Ministry.
Been in New Age and esoteric thinking since I was a young teenager.
(I'll be 63 e.o. May).

MY LIFE has been one of a mystical SOUL CALL ..
Always Devotional ...
even during times I gave up everything, and felt 'nothing' inside me.
The Fire was Hidden but not extinguished.

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posted February 23, 2018 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not important at all

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posted February 23, 2018 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 23, 2018 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm everything touches a bit of everything in my chart but I would partially classify myself as Neptunian due to the fact that I have Neptune BiQuintile/Contra-Parellel my MC/Sun, Trine Mercury, Trine my ASC, and I have a 12th house moon in Leo. I experimented with drugs about a year ago, and literally used it as a tool to feel, though it honestly just caused me to further detach myself. I'll admit, I got a little crazy with it(Mars in Pisces)but I think the allure of it was better than the high itself. I was blessed though because I was able to literally quite it all cold turkey despite doing it quite often. Idk, drugs just seem so..... superficial to me. Substances to transcend or escape when doing naturally and self -reflecting just seems....beter...more genuine?

I do admit though that as a model and in real life, I rely heavily on the glamour of being mysterious. I very much have a Leo Moon, but Id rather walk into a room and have everybody stop and whisper about me than everybody be all in my face telling me how beautiful I am. When the latter happens I typically deflect because I think beauty is more alluring and elusive than that considering lots of times beauty standards are placed upon on due to media; real beauty is something you discover for yourself.

Glamour itself as in "extravagance" I don't see any point in considering I believe in the less is more mentality. I have been told I look very "lady of leisure" which is more along with my attitude than my appearance. I dont really believe in purposely being glamorous but rather radiating any energy that reflects a type of contentment I guess that some people interpret as glamorous. lol. Idk its hard to describe.

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posted February 23, 2018 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umm, extremely important, because they are fun.

I feel that this may be more of a Leo / 5th house thing, considering that most of my friends with this attitude have leo asc or 5th house placements.

However I do have moon square neptune, venus quintile neptune, neptune in the 6th.

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Not one for drugs, or glamour, but definitely need music and my day dreams.

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