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Topic: Rihanna ASC
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capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 23, 2018 02:56 PM
I don't believe she is Aries ASC. Aries ASC makes her Capricorn MC and since when has Rihanna ever come off as a Capricorn to anyone ever?? She is bubbly, upbeat, spontaneous, ALWAYS taking career risks, she does NOT come off as mature or old for her age, she seems to hate handling business herself and always has another company or organization do it for her while she stands on the sidelines as an ambassador, she is not strict, reserved, or traditional with her career etc.To add on to it, her MC ruler would be Saturn in Capricorn in 9th conjunct Uranus and Neptune. Do you see the problem? All that Capricorn. When has Rihanna ever come off that Capricornian before? She is not a Capricorn MC. My guess is she is Taurus ASC or Aquarius ASC Mid and Late Taurus ASC would put her MC in Aquarius. Her Capricorn stellium would go in the 8th. Late Aquarius ASC would put her MC in Sagittarius (supposed to be in SCORPIO though). Her Capricorn stellium is in the 11th house of fulfilled dreams and great wealth (hint hint). Early Gemini ASC with Aquarius MC is possible too but I don't think she is awkward enough to be a Gemini. Rihanna is so money oriented (not really career oriented, but moreso money), so I definitely think there is some Taurus/Scorpio/2nd/8th house going on SOMEWHERE. She literally has a song called B*tch better have my money and all she ever talks about is money and philanthropy...this is not a Capricorn gal! Capricorns like recognization and success and social climbing but they could care less about money. It's just they get lots of money in the process of their social climbing but they don't obsess over it. NOTE: the source for her current birth time of Aries rising is IMDB. You know how much I hate this!! IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 3918 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted February 23, 2018 03:04 PM
She doesnt strike me as an Aries ASC or Taurus ASC. I sense she has Aqua ASC. She is very unconventional.With Aqua ASC, Chris Brown Sun will be placed in her 4th house squaring her Moon and opposite her Pluto. Aspects of domestic violence. IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 23, 2018 03:11 PM
Yes me and some friends were also guessing Aquarius ASC as a first. This would put her Sun in her 2nd in either the natal or the progressed. Money-minded personality. I suspect she is a fixed rising due to her relationship with Chris Brown also. It does not make sense for her to have all of that Cardinal in her chart but she goes for guys like Chris Brown...Under Aries ASC the 7th house ruler is Venus in Aries in the 12th. Doesn't sound like an attraction to Chris Brown. Under Aquarius ASC, 7th ruler is Sun in Pisces in 1st or 2nd (depends on the interceptions) and I think this makes sense. Even after Chris demolished her face in, she kept going on about how she just felt like "he needs saving he is troubled, I can't hate him." all that yada yada pisces martyr stuff about how she felt she could keep him safe and secure (2nd house?) and she wouldn't hold a grudge. Eh. Under Taurus ASC, there is 7th ruler Pluto home in Scorpio in the 6th or 7th house. Same interpretation. Chris was abusive and honestly a little demonic towards her. She didn't hold a grudge bc she felt he needed healing (6th house?). IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 876 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted February 25, 2018 10:28 PM
It's not just the sign though. It's what it's infused with, right? Neptune sitting there at the MC adds some glamour. I'm curious because Rihanna has the closest birth chart of any celebrity to my own. We are both Pisces with Aries rising. Neptune is also conjunct my MC. I have 9th and 12th house stelliums and so does she. But I feel like we are nothing alike, except we both work in entertainment. I will say her style comes off like Aries. Very bold. Fiery. I've also heard her say she doesn't like staying at home. She likes to travel. Lots of 9th house energy to prompt that. IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 368 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted February 25, 2018 10:51 PM
Pisces nation!!!https://m.soundcloud.com/paul-mcfly-3/in-the-sky-1 IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 26, 2018 01:24 PM
Rihanna is a Pisces sun so she will naturally exude glamour as the sun is the personality. Image-wise (ASC), she is definitely not a Aries. She has the emotional temperament (Moon in Aries) and the affection (Venus) of an Aries but her personal image (ASC) is not one of an Aries and her career image is not one of a Capricorn (MC). She is too odd-ball/unconventional and obsessed with money to have that much Aries in the chart. There is an air sign somewhere, mixing all that fire up. Aquarius ASC/MC would also explain why she dominates on social media compared to other pop celebrities who just come and go on social media whenever they feel like it. House placements wise, the Aries ascendant has very odd comparison to her relationship with Chris Brown. I'm not good with speaking on domestic abuse in correlation to astrology, but I feel there would be more being said in her chart and their synastry telling of their domestic violence situation; especially since it caused such a long public uproar. Aqua ASC: Sun in Pisces in 2nd is good for her love of money and can also be interpreted as her father selling drugs and using Rihanna as a drug dog to pass drugs around their neighborhood. Mercury in Aquarius in 12th explains Rihanna having a large amount of "secret" siblings due to her father cheating on her mother with multiple women. Venus Aries in 3rd (?) Rihanna does love all of her siblings and family very much. She considers all of them close family and I don't think she has ever mentioned them in a negative light. Her cousin died a while ago and she was distraught at his funeral even though they didn't know each other that well (I think?). She seems to always be giving money to her siblings and cousins too. Mars in Sagittarius would be in the 10th or 11th. Both of these are EXTREMELY common in people who join the military at a young age. Rihanna never went into the military but that was her initial plan before she went to music. She was in ROTC training program in school and met some celebrity friends during her time there (makes sense, if it was in the 11th). Mars in Sag in 10th or 11th also explains her wanderlust. She pushed very hard to pursue a career in the public in another country at a very young age. Aries ASC makes no sense. IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 876 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted February 27, 2018 11:15 AM
Sun in the 11th could be giving her the Aqua vibe you're picking up on. She also has Merc there.IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 7229 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 28, 2018 01:56 PM
She's extremely generous and loving to her fans. She also has this apparent vulnerability about her while still being strong and sassy. She is a cultural zeitgeist of her generation, too. Jupiter and 10th house should be pronounced. IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 28, 2018 03:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by bananaz: Sun in the 11th could be giving her the Aqua vibe you're picking up on. She also has Merc there.
No that is definitely not it. Sun in the 11th would not really give an Aquarius vibe in my opinion, as the sun is in the natural opposition house of Leo. This would, if anything, dilute the effects of the Aquarian vibe, as Aquarius is the natural opposition to the Sun. It would be like an internal conflict between being a sole individual but within Aquarian groups. That doesn't sound like Rihanna. Sun in the 11th also does not make sense with her father's situation in her life when she was growing up. She is definitely Aquarius ASC or Midheaven. After thinking about it, I would assume it mostly likely Aquarius ASC as Aqua MC seems iffy as she would be either Taurus or Gemini ASC and I don't think she gives off either. She eats a lot, gains weight quickly and in all her feminine spots, and loves money like a Taurus but idk anymore. Gemini is too nervous for her also. I simply do not see how any of you can see her as a Capricorn MC with a Capricorn stellium conjunct the MC. Tell me, honestly, when you look at Rihanna and hear about Rihanna, does she come off as someone who has Capricorn MC, Capricorn DOM, 10th house ruler Saturn in Capricorn conjunct Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn conjunct the MC? That makes no sense at all. Whatsoever. Trippy. If Aquarius was her ASC, the aforementioned house placements I gave would make the most sense. It would also give her a 10th house ruler of either Jupiter (Sag MC) or Mars/Pluto (Scorpio MC). Both of these make sense with Rihanna's image in the public. Jupiter MC gives her great luck and adoration in the career, from all over. There are people all the way in South Korea who fawn over her. Mars/Pluto MC would explain her obsession with money in her career and her sexual presence in the industry. IP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 1341 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 28, 2018 05:22 PM
The MC is not the personality of the person.IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 28, 2018 07:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Spica: The MC is not the personality of the person.
I did not say that it was. I stated multiple times that her CAREER IMAGE is not one of Capricorn with a 10th house ruler home in Saturn in Capricorn conjunct Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn CONJ her 10th house. That's too much Capricorn, that Rihanna never comes off as in her career. Quite often, we see the MC of celebrities before the ASC. It is easier to decipher their charts by looking at their MC since they rarely show us their true personality (ASC). We see the career's personality, the MC. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 7229 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 28, 2018 07:51 PM
I can see the ASC in celebrities well. Like how MJ has his Moon in the first house and that makes sense, given how soft spoken and innocent he seemed.
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 7229 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 28, 2018 07:52 PM
Im studying Ascendants though. I have an article on Capricorn Rising coming up. Rihanna is btw, not a Capricorn Rising. At all.Will come out at the end of the day or tomorrow..
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capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted February 28, 2018 09:20 PM
I didn't say she is Capricorn rising. I am, in fact, completely agreeing that she is in no way a Capricorn ASC or MC...IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 7229 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted February 28, 2018 09:21 PM
No, I'm saying that generally. So I'm saying to anyone, she's not a Capricorn Rising lolIP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 876 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted February 28, 2018 11:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: No that is definitely not it. Sun in the 11th would not really give an Aquarius vibe in my opinion, as the sun is in the natural opposition house of Leo. This would, if anything, dilute the effects of the Aquarian vibe, as Aquarius is the natural opposition to the Sun. It would be like an internal conflict between being a sole individual but within Aquarian groups. That doesn't sound like Rihanna. Sun in the 11th also does not make sense with her father's situation in her life when she was growing up. She is definitely Aquarius ASC or Midheaven. After thinking about it, I would assume it mostly likely Aquarius ASC as Aqua MC seems iffy as she would be either Taurus or Gemini ASC and I don't think she gives off either. She eats a lot, gains weight quickly and in all her feminine spots, and loves money like a Taurus but idk anymore. Gemini is too nervous for her also. I simply do not see how any of you can see her as a Capricorn MC with a Capricorn stellium conjunct the MC. Tell me, honestly, when you look at Rihanna and hear about Rihanna, does she come off as someone who has Capricorn MC, Capricorn DOM, 10th house ruler Saturn in Capricorn conjunct Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn conjunct the MC? That makes no sense at all. Whatsoever. Trippy. If Aquarius was her ASC, the aforementioned house placements I gave would make the most sense. It would also give her a 10th house ruler of either Jupiter (Sag MC) or Mars/Pluto (Scorpio MC). Both of these make sense with Rihanna's image in the public. Jupiter MC gives her great luck and adoration in the career, from all over. There are people all the way in South Korea who fawn over her. Mars/Pluto MC would explain her obsession with money in her career and her sexual presence in the industry.
I actually suspect you could be right and that Rihanna is not an Aries rising. However, I am genuinely very curious about her chart because like I mentioned, it is very close to my own. So just playing devil's advocate here... I have Capricorn MC with Neptune conjunct. I write romance and YA novels for a living. Does that seem Capricorn MCish? Nope. But it does scream Neptune. Also, you're forgetting the Venus conjunct AC would make a person money minded. Especially since with that chart, Venus rules the 2nd house. Have you ever checked her transits to see if they match up? IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5102 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 01, 2018 04:34 AM
Cancer maybe?IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 7229 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted March 01, 2018 05:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by bananaz: I actually suspect you could be right and that Rihanna is not an Aries rising. However, I am genuinely very curious about her chart because like I mentioned, it is very close to my own. So just playing devil's advocate here...I have Capricorn MC with Neptune conjunct. I write romance and YA novels for a living. Does that seem Capricorn MCish? Nope. But it does scream Neptune. Also, you're forgetting the Venus conjunct AC would make a person money minded. Especially since with that chart, Venus rules the 2nd house. Have you ever checked her transits to see if they match up?
Venus does not rule money. Venus may rule over Taurus, but it's not Taurus. This is the dominion of Jupiter. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 7229 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted March 01, 2018 06:13 AM
Venus don't rule the 2nd house either. Venus finds her house in joy in the 5th, in the house of sex, creativity, art, pleasures, children, fertility.
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bananaz Knowflake Posts: 876 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted March 01, 2018 08:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Venus does not rule money. Venus may rule over Taurus, but it's not Taurus.This is the dominion of Jupiter.
Ummm...you're absolutely wrong. Money is 2nd & 8th house in traditional astrology. To quote Cafe Astrology: "In Astrology, Venus has dual rulership over Libra and Taurus. As a result, Venus represents two main areas of our life: love and money." And the sun rules the 5th house, not venus. Jupiter can represent large quantities because it is expansive in nature. This is why you may be confused. IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted March 01, 2018 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by bananaz: I actually suspect you could be right and that Rihanna is not an Aries rising. However, I am genuinely very curious about her chart because like I mentioned, it is very close to my own. So just playing devil's advocate here...I have Capricorn MC with Neptune conjunct. I write romance and YA novels for a living. Does that seem Capricorn MCish? Nope. But it does scream Neptune. Also, you're forgetting the Venus conjunct AC would make a person money minded. Especially since with that chart, Venus rules the 2nd house. Have you ever checked her transits to see if they match up?
but that is my point. When has Rihanna ever come off in this way? When has Rihanna ever written poetic words and shown us any type of writing skill? Most of her songs are written by others and a bunch of her songs are autotuned beyond belief. You would think someone with Uranus AND Neptune conjunct the MC would have more artistic skills, especially with a Pisces sun backing it up! We love Rihanna but let us be honest here... And in your particular case, you do sound Capricorn MC. Writing skills is very typical of Capricorns, as there are a few fixed stars in the Capricorn belt that represent handwritten script/writing, etc. Which just brings me back to my point that Rihanna has no way of being Capricorn MC. She did not make a career out of anything Capricornian and she does not do anything Capricornian in her current career. I am aware Venus conjunct ASC can have some attraction to materialistic lifestyle, but I don't think one aspect should be placed over the rest of the Aries ASC chart because the rest of the chart just makes no sense under that ASC.
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