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Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1941 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted March 01, 2018 09:52 AM
I'm the only one who think the planets doesn't actually affect us?I used to say "I hate this,I hate that" but then I realized that ultimately everything on my chart is about ME,my behaviour.I can't just blame the planets. It isn't about uranus making me do anything.It simply show to me through my natal chart that for some reason (whatever it is) I tend to isolate (sun/uranus) I tend to keep a distance from people,I tend to keep everything in secret,I tend to be overly rational etc. I truly hate all of it.I don't like to keep the guard so high.It is frustrating.It makes me feel disconnected to the world.Why I used to think I was different like an alien?I thought it was because of my chart but it is just my mind playing tricks.I'm like everyone else.What do I need to change is my mindset. I said a hundred times "I hate neptune because it makes me to..." "If I didn't have this aspect things would be different". I don't think it makes me do anything.It simply show me who I became.If it was my fault or if I became that person because someone else hurt me,it doesn't matter.What is done is done. I believe that good or bad fair or unfair ultimately God give us a choice.You can let it be or you can change.That's how I see it now. How do you see the natal chart? I used uranus and neptune as an example because they are strong on my chart. PLEASE DON'T QUOTE IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6253 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted March 01, 2018 11:15 AM
umm I think in a similar way.. I don't even read transits these days. I had probably the best time of my life when Saturn was squaring my entire Pisces stellium, and opposing Moon. Had I known that I was going through tose transits at the time I am absolutely certain it would have affected me in a negative manner and the best time might have turned out to be "one of the worst" coz well according to transits one is supposed to have sh!!t time during those transits,so I think it would have affected me in a very negative way psychologically.Another thing I'm kind of sure of is if a person keeps reading descriptions of how he's supposed to be, he/she inevitably begins to act like it coz it gets programmed into their mind through constant repitition. I remember the time I used to stare at everyone penetratingly lol coz I had read that Scorpio risings are supposed to act that way hundreds of times, so much so that I began to squint my eyes all the time, this lasted for like 3-4 years. Reminds me of Melania Trump lol, did she also read the descriptions of Scorpio Rising? I wonder IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1941 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted March 01, 2018 11:56 AM
lol yeah! People get attached to their labels,thus the phrase "I'm doomed" is recurrent in astrology.
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Lerena Knowflake Posts: 915 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted March 01, 2018 02:01 PM
My natal chart is who I am, but while I'll agree that planets can't *make* you do anything, I do believe that the planets *do* affect us. Now, your opinion is your opinion and I can't change it. A human being's personal experiences are often too subjective for concrete proof. However, Neptune, for example, has influenced my behavior. It did not *make* me do anything, but it certainly contributed to a period of time in which I felt confused and my judgment was clouded beyond the capability to think clearly and see the truth. This could be explained with any number of explanations honestly yet during that period Neptune was actually transiting an asteroid in my natal chart and the transit played out according to what I'd theorize would be the meaning of it. If I had been aware that Neptune was transiting anything, I think I would have used that information to avoid conflict. Unfortunately, as I was unaware, I could not change my actions and make them more appropriate. In my opinion and my experience, planets do influence our actions. Ultimately, we have the final say, of course. No transit dooms us to utter misery. In the natal chart, I do not believe that any aspect or placement is a cause for alarm. Every placement has a positive manifestation and a lot of people seem to focus on the negative manifestation instead. Yes, sometimes the negative manifestation fits, but any negative manifestation can be altered so it is a more positive one. I have Venus square Chiron in my natal chart and it is one of the tightest aspects I have. At one point, my self-esteem was awful and I did not believe I was worthy of love or that I could be loved. This has changed. My self-esteem is mostly healthy now and I know that I do deserve love and that I am loved. This is one example in which my natal chart has not doomed me. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 7236 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted March 01, 2018 02:04 PM
Astrology has 75-90% accuracy. Only God is right all the time. Don't @ me.
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Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1941 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted March 01, 2018 03:04 PM
Hi Lerena.I'm talking mostly about the chart cuz the natal is stagnant (It will never change).I should have explained myself better.Now you are talking transits and I get what you mean cuz I had a crazy experience on a neptune transit!!!Probably the craziest I ever had.Honestly I didn't had much time to think about transits when I opened this thread but at times I believe that them are only a blueprint of what for some reason would happen.It is just showing you not making you feel in that way. I'm still reflecting.As you have said that's just my opinion.I'm glad you have shared yours. PLEASE DON'T QUOTE IP: Logged |
SimplyLuna Knowflake Posts: 142 From: California Registered: Jul 2017
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posted March 01, 2018 03:14 PM
I am not sure if I comprehend. But I see my own chart as tendency not who I am. Is this how you feel too?I believe these planets/energy gets revealed when we are put in a situation or circumstances -- It's sort of complicated to explain for me haha IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 9194 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 01, 2018 03:17 PM
For me, my chart would not make sense without taking the planets into account. Likewise, to divide people into what would be essentially 12 archetypes (because only the sun matters) strikes me as too silly to even consider as people come in way more flavors than that. (Lots of people reject astrology because they only read about their sun sign and it doesn't fit, not without considering the rest of the chart.) And as for blaming the planets into making one's self helpless or depriving one's self of agency, I don't see why you wouldn't reject the sun for the same reason. "I'm an Aries, I can't control my temper, so why fight the way God made me?" "I'm a Pisces, I can't deal with reality, but these drugs can help." "I'm Libra, I can't make up my mind so I'll find someone else to hold my hand and make decisions for me." IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1941 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted March 01, 2018 03:34 PM
Hi SimplyLuna.Yeah.I believe it is the print of our behaviour style but not exactly who we are.Well it can be but only the person can figure out if that behaviour is a defese mechanism that they have created or their essence.I don't know if you get I also have problems to express my thoughts hahahahYou don't think as the majority,it seems I opened this thread because all over the internet you see people complaning about how it isn't fair that they were born with a certain chart and the fault is on the planets,aspects etc and how things would be different if they had another chart.I used to think like that too but it ruins your mind.It gets you trapped. I brought this topic because even famous astrologers tend to give this assumption.
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FatedCinderella Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted March 01, 2018 04:18 PM
quote: I'm an Aries, I can't control my temper, so why fight the way God made me?"
I see a couple of people doing this lol That's just a lame excuse. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 7236 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted March 01, 2018 04:24 PM
I'm not an Aries, my Mars is in fall, and I like to fight, and I have a bad temper. Thats not my fault but my own
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