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Topic: Deception and infidelity in composite chart?
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Nine Tests
Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 05:07 PM
  
I'm interpreting a composite chart specifically regarding deception and infidelity.Sun in 2nd house and Saturn in the 5th suggests a relationship based on finances rather than sex. Link to chart: https://imgur.com/a/eEcHP I've summarised the meaning of the aspects for Saturn and Jupiter in 5th house and Venus in 12th house. Saturn in 5th:
Dutiful, serious and without passion. Offspring unlikely.
-Sun square: Criticising and condemning. Repressive influence.
-Mars square: Seething resentment, expressing irritation in cutting remarks, sexual asynchronicity.
-Uranus sextile: Endurance and balancing of old with new.
-Ascendant trine: The world's perceiving of the relationship as romantic as sunny keeps the couple together (i.e. Leo ascendant). Jupiter in 5th:
Growth, happiness and benevolent self-expression.
-Pluto square: Threatened by each other's success.
-Moon opposite: Brings differing people together.
-Uranus square: breaking away from possession, never limiting freedom.
-Sun trine: Having much of what you feel you need.
-Mercury trine: Consciousness expanding.
-Mars trine: Great growth. Venus in 12th:
Secret relationship, secret enemies, not knowing how one feels for the other.
-Pluto square: Relationship flares up and dies with incredible speed. Trapped and rebelling against restrictions.
-Neptune trine: Over-idealised illusion. A platonic relationship in which physical sex is over-idealised. I'm aware of the difference between synastry and composite. Any observations on the composite chart would be greatly appreciated. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 373
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posted March 04, 2018 06:23 PM
Are you one of the composite persons?IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Are you one of the composite persons?
Yes. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 373
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posted March 04, 2018 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Nine Tests:
Yes.
If you are honest and faithful, then a composite showing of deception and infidelity wouldn't conclusively put the other person to blame. IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
If you are honest and faithful, then a composite showing of deception and infidelity wouldn't conclusively put the other person to blame.
Of course, such interpretative absolutism would be folly. Propensity and manifestation are two very different things. Nonetheless, do you have any thoughts on the specific chart provided with respects to any propensities indicative of deception and infidelity? IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 373
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posted March 04, 2018 06:47 PM
I can figure it out but the format is too difficult for me to read. You can send me dates or you can enter the dates at astro.com and post the image.Otherwise, someone else might be able to help. IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
[...] enter the dates at astro.com and post the image.[...]
Image of composite chart generated by astro.com: https://imgur.com/a/BaJNc IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted March 04, 2018 07:07 PM
Much better, TY. Can you show the data please? Might be able to use the landscape function.IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Much better, TY. Can you show the data please? Might be able to use the landscape function.
Image of composite chart with data in landscape generated by astro.com. https://imgur.com/a/GHcby IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 373
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posted March 04, 2018 07:30 PM
TY. Where is your composite Juno? Sign and degree will be fine.IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 07:36 PM
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TY. Where is your composite Juno? Sign and degree will be fine.
Aries 44'26"r. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted March 04, 2018 07:41 PM
22'46", right next to Chiron?IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
22'46", right next to Chiron?
Yes, Juno is positioned next to Chiron. The chart data states 44'26"r. Opposite Uranus and trine Saturn. For your convenience, image of composite chart including Juno generated by astro.com: https://imgur.com/a/jZJMo IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted March 04, 2018 07:54 PM
TY. 13'44"26IP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2018 08:04 PM
May I see a screenshot of the "additional tables" command result? It should generate a pdf. It will show the declination of each.IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
May I see a screenshot of the "additional tables" command result? It should generate a pdf. It will show the declination of each.
Image of additional tables including declinations generated by astro.com: https://imgur.com/a/shFOr
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posted March 04, 2018 09:23 PM
TY. I am still considering. 11th house moon might be a sign for infidelity as well as the Chiron/Juno midpoint being quincunx to Sun/Mars. The midpoint is trine to Saturn in the 5th so I think that one is dodged. The midpoint is opposite your ruler of the 7th too. Saturn square with the Sun/Mars is in Earth so could be worse. Neptune dodged one with Venus since it is trine. Might have a credibility issue with Neptune squaring to Sun/Mars. IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 09:35 PM
I didn't consider the 11th house moon nor the midpoint of Chiron and Juno.Her natal Juno is placed in the 8th house (Mercury Square and Saturn Sextile) whereas mine is placed in the 10th house (Sun Opposite, Mercury Opposite, Pluto Opposite and Saturn sextile). IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted March 04, 2018 09:54 PM
Is her 8th Juno connected to her Pluto, Venus, and/or Mars? Venus is the fourth quadrant might be a sign for infidelity as well as Venus contra Neptune for deception.IP: Logged |
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Newflake Posts: 11
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posted March 04, 2018 10:31 PM
Only Mercury and Saturn aspect her Juno. Pluto and mars are conjunct in the opposite 2nd house but are not aspecting Juno.Her natal Venus (Gemini, 10th house):
-conjunct moon
-square Pluto
-square Uranus
-square Mars
-trine Saturn
-trine Jupiter Her natal moon (Gemini, 10th house):
-conjunct Venus
-square Pluto
-square Uranus
-square Mars
-trine Saturn
-trine Jupiter IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted March 04, 2018 10:56 PM
I considered a bunch of stuff. The ones I mentioned are the only ones that were flags IMO. In other words, the composite passed many checks. I would take a chance but I wouldn't have based a decision on the composite.I might have missed a few checks but surely not many. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted March 05, 2018 05:35 PM
This belongs in Interpersonal Astrology. Moving it there.------------------
Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guy
Declinations: because the planets move north and south of the celestial equator IP: Logged |
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