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lauralaurana
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posted March 18, 2018 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lauralaurana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!
For the current year Iīve been having problems with some violent neighbours, we have been in Court. The question is, Sun in 7th favours the other side (as it is the open enemy house) but this square to my Jupiter (the Jugge maybe?) in 9th conjunct MC could it mean the jugde will favour me o the other side?? Venus is in 8th semisquare Sun.

Any ideas?

Is there a possibility to be attacked if also have Pluto in 12th with Mars conjunct 1 degree Ascendant from 12th square Uranus in 3rd?

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mirage29
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posted March 18, 2018 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lauralaurana

You didn't mention the Signs that your Sun and Jupiter are in, nor your 12th House cusp and placements. I'll go very broadly and general.

It is not my intent to insult you... so, please look at my communications in 'that' light, okay?

There are LOTS of considerations involved in looking at your own NATAL chart.

I have a personal familiarity with living around violent neighbors, especially ones who are involved in crimes (and gangs).
.. I also do volunteer work in a philanthropic organization in the US that helps people of low income and in poverty obtain some types of (noncriminal) legal representation.
.. I am NOT a lawyer. I have had NO education concerning the Law, except for a few personal experiences I had with divorce (and things pertaining, like the division and dissolution of marital property, business, custody of children, etc)

LAW can be rather cut-and-dry-- by the book!
They look at the rule, and the property. The person-factor tends to be excluded, except for the Judge who needs to factor that in, when needed.

Depending on the tailoring of local government rules, these can skew the balance of Favor to one party over the other (even unfairly).

As far as LAW itself is concerned,
and your litigation case itself?

.. That would fall in a different category of astrological charts and needs.

You would need to set up an Event Chart
(providing 'time, place, date' where your papers first registered with the Clerk of the Court).

This Event Chart would be delineated according to the rules of Mundane astrology-- Electional and Horary astrology.

The Rules of delineation are different.
The Keywords are similar (and familiar).

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Please hire a Proven PROFESSIONAL astrologer, with years of experience IN Law, and who bears a good reputation, in order to advise you in any life-impacting decisions.
Have the 'peace of mind' ... get a Pro!

As far as your living in a Violent situation--
I would say to 'consider' your 12th house placements carefully.
Pluto Mars in the 12th-- The 12th is an 'unconscious' house.
People use that energy without realizing it.
Good to become conscious of it working, over time, and try to identify how it works for YOU?

"Generally"-- this position ~could draw in the '(unwanted?) attention' of people involved in underworld criminal activity.
Careful about stirring them up, unnecessarily. Or.. it can lead the native into same.
And--
Can also give you 'advantage' with being powerfully more strategic and effective with what you 'do' with whatever you uncover? Again, can draw the ire (anger, retaliation) of these individuals involved in that activity.

haha. Your Mars--
I've personally known some people with Mars touching their Ascendant. These (in my life) have had 'strong' (even overpowering) personalities. Without realizing it (maybe?LOL), they can assert themselves with MUCH impact on the 'other', and do so in a very competitive (without meaning to?) way.

Your Sun in 7th could be advantageous--
with making contracts and negotiations, favor in hiring good lawyers, negotiators, therapists, ... anything that represents a one-on-one, face-to-face talk and relating.

Not a 'promise' that you WIN, but you'll draw favor. (NATAL! .. What you mentioned about it favoring the 'opposite party' pertains to Mundane astrology, Event Chart)

As far as concept of 'open enemies' is concerned--
I've read that one psychological feature of this house is the tendency to 'project' material of soul nature "outwardly"-- that things/events/people manifest in an outside-world way so you can deal with it in a clearer way, internally.
(psychologically speaking)

The Venus 8th in semi-square to your Sun 7th,
could possibly unconsciously act that same way your Sun 7th does--
acts as a milder~irritant to your psyche,
which would also lend and encourage that 'material' which is hidden from view to be projected outwardly-- manifesting itself 'in a mirror' for you to look at.

(again, these kind of very human characteristics are quite subtle, even invisibly just-below your own awareness)

It's a 'minor' aspect ... irritates, causes anxiety in a mild barely-noticeable way.

Now you know it through Astrology. That's a good thing. AND saves on therapy bills!

Whatever you 'know about', can be worked on, compensated for, etc. Make the material of the subconscious come UP to be more seen, resulting in becoming more 'conscious' of what's going on in you (and others).

(7th House is VenusLibra's natural house)

Aspect--

Sun 7th square Jupiter 9th-MC.
The IC/MC could deal with RealEstate and Outside-Authorities?

Jupiter will Magnify issues .. good or bad.

I've read that it can also embolden people to take "risks" without thinking it all the way through?

Your Uranus is across from it, H3? ...
Uranus can be a disruptor, good or bad.
Also though, its advantage are Genius thoughts that can flash through your mind (H3).
H3.. your neighbors (siblings cousins tribes; early schooling; writing journaling, communicating, your local familiar area)

Jupiter square Sun ...
Could also take huge gambles/risks, without having considered all the consequences?

I fervently hope that these people are 'temporary' and could be controlled or removed for you (and your other neighbors).

I have no idea what your circumstances are.

If you are taking them to court, then, I'm going to guess you must have the 'financial' means. Litigation can become 'expensive' and complicated.


When you take violent-types into litigations, there's a possibility of your setting your own self up for (hidden H12) retaliations.

Instead of spending a LOT of money in court, one option too, (depending on your situation TOTALLY), you could "consider" using that money to find yourself a safer place to live?

Best of Luck to you

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lauralaurana
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posted March 21, 2018 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lauralaurana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for answering.

At the momento it is completely impossible for me to move or even relocate, so Iīll have to put up with whatever happens. Thatīs why it would be nice to have some clues.

SRMc is in sign Scorpio and falls in my natal 1st and SR7th is in Leo and falls in my natal MC. Solar Return Ascendant is in my natal 4th (endings but....what kind of endings to expect?) Aquarius.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted March 24, 2018 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Litigation often favours the one who consistently followed the rules.

If you did everything in order to get your neighbors to respect your rights, then it is likely that you will be favoured.

If you have evidence to support the attempts to meet them halfway. Then that is even better.

Libra rules litigation. And exaltation in Saturn suggests that the one with the reasonable mind is favoured. Saturn in 7th too.

Typically this should be the case, but Uranus in 3rd could certainly suggest that there may be some unexpected occurrences that add complexities to the mix I.e a small clause that was overlooked relating to neighbour relations.

Sun in 7th is good as it suggests that you want to get along and will do what you can to mend fences. This position can entail the charm of Sun in Libra.

Mars in 7th is not great and can make one appear antagonistic and combative. They may feel like they were treated unfairly and respond aggressively. It has a similar approach to Mars in Libra.

Jupiter in 7th may suggest you reach a settlement that you both agree on or you will just want the process of litigation to end as soon as possible. Indifferent to whom "wins" and having the same "Let the chips fall where they may" stance of Jupiter in Libra.

Whilst Venus in 7th will try to settle out of court, concede where necessary and attach themselves to promises if peace is promised. Later reconciliation is highly likely even if they lose- same approach as Venus in Libra

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lauralaurana
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posted March 26, 2018 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lauralaurana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Litigation often favours the one who consistently followed the rules."

Not in my country. Here there have been really far unfair judgements. It depends on the judge. So I trust more what comes in my solar return and transits than Justice itself.

"If you did everything in order to get your neighbors to respect your rights, then it is likely that you will be favoured."

Primitive mean people donīt care about others righst, they just bully whoever they find in their way.

I canīt post the solar return, will keep on trying anyway, it would be better if you had de image. Anyway I have none of those aspects youīre describing. Solar Return house 7th is in Leo, and Mars in 12th over SR Ascendant is in Aquarius.

Thanks for the answer anyway.

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 26, 2018 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you can cast a horary

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lauralaurana
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posted March 26, 2018 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lauralaurana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Donīt know how to cast horary

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