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BlessedAreTheWarlike
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posted March 20, 2018 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlessedAreTheWarlike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So my saturn is in the 7th. The most important thing that I have read up about, and been told is: Do not ever get married before your saturn return. Or before 30. It will end in a really bad divorce and it will leave you devastated.

This was advice from a couple of psychics, and multiple astrologist's blogs and articles.
So how does one go about telling your significant other that you dont want to get married until after this age? My significant other doesnt practice nor believes in astrology, so its hard telling him without it seeming like Im trying to dodge commitment and what not.

What do you guys think?

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SecretGeek
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posted March 20, 2018 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it could be the worst mistake of your life to tell him that if you really love him.

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Lerena
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posted March 20, 2018 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not think your significant other has to believe in astrology to determine that what you are saying makes sense.

When I searched on Google, there were plenty of search results discussing not to marry in your 20s and how divorce rates are much higher when two people are under 30. These results did not talk about astrology. The results in question were likely based off statistics and actual experiences of what happen between marriage couples under 30.

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I think it could be the worst mistake of your life to tell him that if you really love him.
I can see why you're saying this, but I think getting married in your 20s can be a bit of a costly move down the road since there is less thought put into committing to a person you really want to be with. You end up thinking you really want to be with someone before you've even properly gotten to know someone and what living with them long-term is like.

For example, my parents married in their 20s and they are now divorced. Someone I talk to married in their 20s and they are now divorced. There are other couples throughout my family that have gotten divorced, though I have no idea at what age those people married.

Another reason I think that marrying before your 30 may be a bad idea like what's been said in the first post is the 20s seem to be a major time in someone's life for the development of who they are as an adult (at least, for me it has been) and the Saturn Return is when some of that begins to manifest. Some people can probably pull it off, but generally, marriage requires maturity that not everyone has before their Saturn Return. Although I tend to think I'm mature, I am not ashamed to admit that I am not yet marriage material. After my Saturn Return? That's quite likely around the time I'll begin to truly mature as an adult and have the resources and capability to be a good wife.

Regardless, what I'm saying doesn't mean that someone absolutely should not marry in their 20s at all. If two people really want to be together though, marriage does not necessarily have to be immediate. People are young in their 20s and marriage makes more sense for someone's 30s around the time they begin to settle down into a stable routine and consistent lifestyle.

Basically, have fun in your 20's and start getting serious during your Saturn Return. This is just my two cents though.

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Sulkyarcher
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posted March 21, 2018 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How have your relationships been in the past? How far away from 30 are you?

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BlessedAreTheWarlike
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posted March 21, 2018 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlessedAreTheWarlike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, ive got plenty of time before I’m thirty or when saturn comes swinging around my natal. And it isnt in my intentions to be settled just yet. And yeah, by no means am I marriage material. I was just wondering in general because like Lerena says, maturity typically develops around the manifestation of saturns return. From what I’ve heard, saturn kicks butt!

My relationships in the past have typically been rocky, and not consistently stable, if you’re wondering.

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SecretGeek
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posted March 21, 2018 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TY Lorena,

Women have a small window of fertility relative to life expectancy. Then there can be Downs Syndrome probabilities associated with age placing a figurative limit on the small window.

If I were going to Vegas to bet on a life changing event I wanted, I would evaluate the odds (risk) and make a decision accordingly. I think the risk goes up with age.

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Stellia
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posted March 21, 2018 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Echoing what others have said, the key for me comes not from astrology but from self-awareness.

If you are self aware and love yourself, and your partner does, then awesome. It happens before age 30, sometimes. It's rare, but it happens.

The key to marriage - in my unmarried eyes - is the ability to love unconditionally, and that only comes from loving the self first. If you both have that, then you are in a really strong position, no matter your age.

The reason why 30 is a good marker is because saturn (and maturity) really kick that process into gear for a lot of people who don't realise that they don't love themselves until after that point.

Pre-30 marriages are more likely to fail because if one partner 'wakes up' and the other doesn't, it's almost impossible to carry that on, one-sided.

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Stellia
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posted March 21, 2018 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW I also have Saturn in the 7th - and the NN. I've been engaged to marry twice and had other long term relationships that could have resulted in marriage.

Fortunately/unfortunately I also have saturn square venus, so saturn transits have given me a few lucky escapes (in hindsight).

Since my second nodal return I feel like I'm finally self-aware enough to hopefully avoid the ego-driven false love games so I'm optimistic about my future (I'm currently a single mum!)

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PixieJane
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posted March 21, 2018 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problems of aging and fertility are grossly exaggerated. I'm not up to doing an essay on it, but that shouldn't be what puts you off.

More importantly, if you love each other then marriage should not make a difference, unless you want to tap him for money in case it doesn't work out. If you have to marry to preserve the love then it's not really love.

That said, I don't see how not marrying can make you escape the trials and tests that Saturn will put you through just by putting it off. Saturn isn't looking for marriage certificates or other bureaucratic proof as some human would, but rather tests of character and behavior. Your relationships (and it won't just be the romantic relationship that Saturn looks at) be tested no matter what. If you've been manipulating him or he you then it will likely come out then, or at that point become intolerable, for example. If one of you isn't happy (as opposed to desperately clinging to someone so as to not be alone) then that is going to come out. But if you both are the best people you can be who can endure a little hardship then both of you and your relationship will be stronger for it. Saturn rewards as well as punishes, but he makes you work for your rewards.

Even if it doesn't survive, assuming you play your cards right then another door will open and you can find something even better that can make you glad for the Saturn return. It worked that way for me.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted March 21, 2018 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second what Stellia and PixieJane said.

Blessed, first such a mandate is pessimistic and negative, thus bad astrology. Secondly, for any such advice the natal chart must be understood for its own patterns.

The difficulty of Saturn returns is often exaggerated. In today's more complex modern societies it may be true that many more of us are better off taking longer to develop as individuals before we are ready to partner with someone, and certainly the Saturn return can play into that. But that is because western societies, especially the USA, are more oriented towards (false) individualism which both emphasizes personal success and has difficulty measuring it. That is very much a Saturn issue, and the difficulty of the Saturn return for many people is precisely because of the over-emphasis on success vs failure, and how that is measured (by mis-beliefs very often).

If we think we need to prove ourselves successful before we are worthy of a mate, then we've got a whole other set of problems that are not astrological in nature. A relationship with a truly supportive person when we are ready is far more negotiable than most people think.

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vertiver
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posted March 22, 2018 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely agree with all the other responses in that Saturn return is more a turning point in life aka Twenties to thirties and not necessarily a set in stone hardship...

From my own experience I just went through Saturn return. In nature I am somewhat Saturnian my Venus in the 7th H opposite Saturn in the 1 st in Sagittarius with Saturn parallel Ascendant. Yes I did break up with my long term boyfriend that I had dated for over 4 years and it was quite a adjustment after that. I felt isolated and that I'd never find love. But I worked on myself and enjoyed the company of friends and family.

After my solar return of last year I started corresponding with someone and pretty much brushed it off for a month. And then we finally meetup and connected right away. Since then we have fallen in love and have been inseparable ever since. In this case, I believe that Saturn helps in eliminating what is false and not helpful for our growth and maturity.

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