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Topic: Cheater Patterns, Tristan Thompson?
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areesquivel Knowflake Posts: 874 From: MX Registered: Feb 2016
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posted April 11, 2018 02:39 PM
Not a fan of Kardashian family but any story like this makes me sad and keeps me wondering about cheaters... I know there's patterns that involve hard aspects maybe Uranus and Venus but from his Chart, no birth time though, don't see much.I'm not an expect so I want to ask, if those Venus squares can make that? Venus square Chiron, North Node and Neptune. Uranus conjunct Neptune also, can that be it? though is a WIDE orb. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3267 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted April 11, 2018 06:36 PM
First, no astrological factor or collection of factors 'makes' someone a cheater. They choose to do with they do. We all have challenges of character in different areas. Professional basketball players are aggressive athletes who have plenty of opportunities out on the road. So it is a matter of character what one does with that.Astrologically, he was born 13 March 1991 in Toronto with ... (using noon) - Sun 22° Pisces / 3° south - Moon in Aquarius (this placement pops up a lot with those who cannot seem to be faithful sexually to one person) - Mercury 3° Aries / 1° north - Venus 23° Aries / 9° north - Mars 19° Gemini / 25° north - Jupiter 4° Leo / 20° north - Saturn 4AQU40 / 19S34 - Uranus 13CAP17 / 23S07 - Neptune 16CAP25 / 21S39 - Pluto 20SCO16 / 2S53 - N.Node 26CAP42 / 20S49 So Sun is parallel and trine Pluto, showing a willful person whose motivations are emotional and under the surface (Sun Pises, Pluto in Scorpio), given to secretiveness, but not given to compromise. The person may say one thing, but go and do what they want anyway. Sun is square to Mars in Gemini, which is an opportunist orientation given the spontaneous or impulse nature of Mars in Gemini. Mars is quincunx Neptune and Pluto (yod), which can relate to temptations to deceptive or dishonest actions, possibly involving the use of drugs or intoxicants (Neptune), and temptations to inappropriate use of power or sex (Pluto). Jupiter is opposite and contra-parallel Saturn, showing challenges of ethics and morality (indulgence/expansion vs integrity/restrains). Venus in Aries is square Nodes (Cap/Cancer. This puts all things Venus into play with how his life turns out and how his future develops. No, the conjunction of Uranus and Neptune has little if anything at all to do with this question of cheating. That is an aspect of creative conceptualism, urging intelligence and awareness that goes beyond rational explanations (Mercury). ------------------ Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Declinations: because the planets move north and south of the celestial equator IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 8443 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 11, 2018 06:47 PM
My partner has Venus square Mars conjunct Uranus and he has never cheated on me in the 11 years I have known him even though I have told him he can and have asked him if wants to have an open relationship.He has sun in Libra conjunct Saturn with moon in cancer, I feel at heart he is a domestic relationship guy because of those placements so it would be a mistake to assume that Venus square Uranus is a cheating aspect. He is into politics and projects, he has a restless mind, I have a restless soul and heart, I am the problem. I don't have Venus square Uranus. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 8443 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 11, 2018 06:52 PM
Pisces Aquarius Gemini Aries and Leo all in one chart! lol hahahahhahhaaI mean blame it on that combination of energies! not on venus square uranus. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7146 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted April 11, 2018 10:19 PM
maybe just being a Pisces man is enough Most of them are cheaters, if not all.IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7146 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted April 11, 2018 10:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Pisces Aquarius Gemini Aries and Leo all in one chart! lol hahahahhahhaaI mean blame it on that combination of energies! not on venus square uranus.
Great observation and deduction!!
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5283 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 12, 2018 08:11 AM
Mercury in Aries in mutual reception with Mars in Gemini is a "act now, think later" placement. Not likely to be restrained esp with passionate Venus in Aries also in the mix.Aries energy tends to act on impulse and Gemini/Aqua energy can fan or encourage that independent way of thinking. Add to that "I will not be dictated to or told what to do" Aqua who tends to minimize emotional loyalties. Jupiter in Leo/Sun in Pisces "big on gamble" mutual reception and you have someone who can't resist risking it all because they believe that they can get it all back should they lose. Sun/Mars square in Pisces/Gemini is also the type to be seduced easily by the fascinating promise in the great "out there". Always suffering some form of disappointment when the promise does not live up to expectations. That Moon in Aqua/Venus in Aries and Gemini Mars would have had me back away slowly and not even try.... Air Moon and Air Mars with fire Venus? Are u kidding? IP: Logged |
Stellia Knowflake Posts: 476 From: Yorks, UK Registered: Jan 2017
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posted April 12, 2018 09:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Venus in Aries is square Nodes (Cap/Cancer. This puts all things Venus into play with how his life turns out and how his future develops.
This is a great observation - I have long suspected the same. I know someone with venus-mars very tightly conjunct in virgo, square the nodes. Specifically, in his case, that getting through his attitude towards marriage (taking venus and mars as a very literal marriage analogy) is critical to him for finding his life path. The fact that his NN is in the 7th underscores this. He's been married for a number of years, but is a serial cheater. I'm optimistic in his case that his second nodal return (oh and this person's NN is in gemini as well) might force him to confront his own behaviour, but it is not going to be easy. I know very little about Tristan and the Kardashians, but think generally we should be looking at squares to nodes more as indicators of ingrained behaviours...
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areesquivel Knowflake Posts: 874 From: MX Registered: Feb 2016
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posted April 12, 2018 11:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Venus in Aries is square Nodes (Cap/Cancer. This puts all things Venus into play with how his life turns out and how his future develops.
Kannon, I wanted to ask you about this Nodes aspects, since I have a complete Square between my Mercury in Cancer, Neptune in Capricorn and Nodes in Aries and Libra. How that translate for me? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 8443 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 12, 2018 01:14 PM
According to Ted Talk "rethinking infidelity" and the research and data she has looked into around 60% of people cheat at some point in their life in some way shape or form so I don't think cheating is a nodal thing, I think is a human thing. Some people cheat because after you have been with someone for 4 years or more the excitement and mystery starts to wane. You still love your partner but feel curious too about getting to know others and miss the passion from the beginning. Some people have a stronger need for excitement and passion/romance and some people have a stronger need for security and have more self control. Others cheat bec they want to connect to other people in a different way from how they connect with their partner. As astrologers we know how different people bring out different parts of us through synastry and how relationships help us explore different sides of us. Some people cheat because they are not sexually fulfilled in their marriage but don't think ending things is the right thing to do either and sacrificing your sexuality for a lifetime can be painful. Until not that long ago most people got married for practical reasons and it was the norm to have lovers on the side. Marrying for love is a more recent phenomenon.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 8443 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 12, 2018 01:19 PM
What can I say life is a Bi*ch and a Di*k but at times can be enchantingly magical...IP: Logged |
areesquivel Knowflake Posts: 874 From: MX Registered: Feb 2016
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posted April 12, 2018 01:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: According to Ted Talk "rethinking infidelity" and the research and data she has looked into around 60% of people cheat at some point in their life in some way shape or form so I don't think cheating is a nodal thing, I think is a human thing. Some people cheat because after you have been with someone for 4 years or more the excitement and mystery starts to wane. You still love your partner but feel curious too about getting to know others and miss the passion from the beginning. Some people have a stronger need for excitement and passion/romance and some people have a stronger need for security and have more self control. Others cheat bec they want to connect to other people in a different way from how they connect with their partner. As astrologers we know how different people bring out different parts of us through synastry and how relationships help us explore different sides of us. Some people cheat because they are not sexually fulfilled in their marriage but don't think ending things is the right thing to do either and sacrificing your sexuality for a lifetime can be painful. Until not that long ago most people got married for practical reasons and it was the norm to have lovers on the side. Marrying for love is a more recent phenomenon.
I completely agree with this, thank you Hypatia, the last part about marriage for practical reasons is something i have in mind and I've been having in mind my whole life, I mean the marriage for love is a nice thing but in all honesty marriage is a partnership more than anything, and I mean that not always means LOVE. IP: Logged |
diamondbaby Knowflake Posts: 854 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted April 13, 2018 07:13 AM
I have always associated infidelity with Uranus and Neptune.Uranus - commitment phobia, restlessness, constantly seeking out new things, inability to form healthy, monogamous relationships Neptune - deception, lies, foggy mind, fantasy, delusion Sun aspecting one or both and Mars aspecting one of both can be a sign of infidelity, mainly the adverse aspects like squares and oppositions. Transits too. Placements like Sun and/or Mars in Aquarius/11th house or in Pisces/12th house can point towards infidelity too in my opinion. IP: Logged |
areesquivel Knowflake Posts: 874 From: MX Registered: Feb 2016
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posted April 13, 2018 12:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by diamondbaby: I have always associated infidelity with Uranus and Neptune.Uranus - commitment phobia, restlessness, constantly seeking out new things, inability to form healthy, monogamous relationships Neptune - deception, lies, foggy mind, fantasy, delusion Sun aspecting one or both and Mars aspecting one of both can be a sign of infidelity, mainly the adverse aspects like squares and oppositions. Transits too. Placements like Sun and/or Mars in Aquarius/11th house or in Pisces/12th house can point towards infidelity too in my opinion.
I know somehow who cheated on his wife and all but I look at this person and he honestly feels like the type of guy who did it because he really just happened to fall in love with the woman. He has the Mars square Neptune aspect but 7 degrees apart which I think is a lot. Sun conjunct Neptune. Mars and Venus making a nice aspect to Uranus. So I guess for him is more of a "I fell in love" rather than I only had sex with this girl. IP: Logged |