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capricorncheriscty
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posted April 27, 2018 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think with this NN axis, you are more likely to have failed relationships in this lifetime? Is there ever any hope for a secure, long-lasting, "til death do us part" with this NN configuration? I know it is not wise to isolate one single placement and that we are in charge of our own destiny/have free will but I'm just curious....

For example, Halle Berry has North Node in the 1st and I think we all know about her messy love life. How many times has she been married? I don't think she has ever been in a relationship for more than 5 years tops. In between her failed marriages she is always dating and they also never last long. I looked it up and she has been in about 12-15 failed relationships so far! It may be more than that, I didn't really check well. To make matters worse, she also has Neptune in the 7th conjunct her South Node which explains why she finds delusion and "failed fairy tales" in so many of her relationships. Yikes.


On her wikipedia, there is a whole section dedicated to the messiness surrounding her failed relationships....

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posted April 28, 2018 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sandra Bullock also has NN in the 1st house.

If reincarnation exists, it may be a lifetime of not being married. That's not written in stone, though.

NN in the 1st house is supposedly about being independent, or whatever.

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posted April 28, 2018 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberryaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this in my natal chart too 1st house Libra NN/7th house Aries SN.

Would like to hear experience of other people

I don't have friends, but I would say I'm pretty independent, however I do always need a person in my life who i can truly trust and depend on, but I think that's natural for every human being. It doesn't have to be a lover.

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posted April 28, 2018 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
Do you think with this NN axis, you are more likely to have failed relationships in this lifetime? Is there ever any hope for a secure, long-lasting, "til death do us part" with this NN configuration? I know it is not wise to isolate one single placement and that we are in charge of our own destiny/have free will but I'm just curious....

For example, Halle Berry has North Node in the 1st and I think we all know about her messy love life. How many times has she been married? I don't think she has ever been in a relationship for more than 5 years tops. In between her failed marriages she is always dating and they also never last long. I looked it up and she has been in about 12-15 failed relationships so far! It may be more than that, I didn't really check well. To make matters worse, she also has Neptune in the 7th conjunct her South Node which explains why she finds delusion and "failed fairy tales" in so many of her relationships. Yikes.


On her wikipedia, there is a whole section dedicated to the messiness surrounding her failed relationships....


I know 3 people with this which is the exact opposite to mine.
I will later search for a post I found talking about North Node in 1st/7th and 4th/10th H.. It was said that those people have problem with relationships. The comments though of people over 40 saying that they have never been in relationships (I consider it to be a North Node in 7th H thing) and that they couldn't find anything else in their chart indicating delays or major problems in relationship makes me think that it is enough by itself. I have Uranus, Neptune and North Node in 7th H and Saturn in 8th H. Which is a generally f*cked up 7th H. So in my case it is not just a North Node thing. But out of the 3 people I know with North Node in 1st house they have pretty bad relationships indeed and one of them has never been in relationship at all.

I think there is a hope for those who have personal planets in conjuction to North Node to even reach their North Nodes in early age.
But if it is Saturn/Uranus/Neptune in conjuction with the North Node the person won't reach the North Node destination not even in his next life. LOL

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posted April 28, 2018 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you think with this NN axis, you are more likely to have failed relationships in this lifetime? Is there ever any hope for a secure, long-lasting, "til death do us part" with this NN configuration? I know it is not wise to isolate one single placement and that we are in charge of our own destiny/have free will but I'm just curious....
For example, Halle Berry has North Node in the 1st and I think we all know about her messy love life. How many times has she been married? I don't think she has ever been in a relationship for more than 5 years tops. In between her failed marriages she is always dating and they also never last long. I looked it up and she has been in about 12-15 failed relationships so far! It may be more than that, I didn't really check well. To make matters worse, she also has Neptune in the 7th conjunct her South Node which explains why she finds delusion and "failed fairy tales" in so many of her relationships. Yikes.

On her wikipedia, there is a whole section dedicated to the messiness surrounding her failed relationships....



I have this placement.

I think that the energy of a SouthNode in the partnership-sector tends to have that person want to give "ALL" of themselves into relationships, to the neglect of their 'own' needs, their 'own' truths, their 'own' likes and dislikes. They conform to the other person, the other people they are involved with.

They put Others first, and make their 'identity' H1 about the other people in their life, without regarding themselves and THEIR own needs as an equally distinct and necessary part of the formula.

Balance comes when you can know who 'you' are separate from the Other, WHILE engaging in the give and take.

I think it's tricky, and requires a partner who knows and appreciates that instinctive reflex. Needs to 'make space' for them.

This person would do well with a partner who has a secure sense of themselves AND the needed sensitivity to support the 'identity' needs of their partners.

I took a look at Berry's chart, and the biographies.

There's a pattern of getting hooked up within abusive relationships for her.

Her NEPTUNE SN on Desc Scorpio ...
attracts Idealized relationships, and the mystically-supernaturally inclined.
Neptune is a planet of actors and films.

Perhaps she was regarded as a 'trophy'.
One in the crowd of The 'Beautiful' people.
Attracting people who end up having been deceitful treacherous spiteful and revengeful? (Scorpio)

They like her notoriety and want to associate with that.
Her Venus is on the Millionaire's Degree 29+ Cancer.
She has sensitive attuned Jupiter Mars Cancer 22 and 23 degrees.

Her current partner (Martinez) has Saturn on the Pisces on his Descendant. Chiron is involved in those Pisces degrees for both of them (born same generation).

She's got a man who is very willing to 'stand up' for her interests. The transiting Mars-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn is ON his Sun in his 5th House.

There have been physical altercations with baby-daddy model Gabriel Aubrey. Martinez Aubrey and Berry are involved in NASTY fights over the child (H5) she shares with Aubrey.

She has a Beautiful Chart!
Artistically talented for her chosen profession, and physically absolutely gorgeous!
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Berry,_Halle

Spouse ...
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Martinez,_Olivier

links to wiki found with those charts

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posted April 28, 2018 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:

Her current partner (Martinez) has Saturn on the Pisces on his Descendant. Chiron is involved in those Pisces degrees for both of them (born same generation).

She's got a man who is very willing to 'stand up' for her interests. The transiting Mars-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn is ON his Sun in his 5th House.

There have been physical altercations with baby-daddy model Gabriel Aubrey. Martinez Aubrey and Berry are involved in NASTY fights over the child (H5) she shares with Aubrey.

She has a Beautiful Chart!
Artistically talented for her chosen profession, and physically absolutely gorgeous!
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Berry,_Halle

Spouse ...
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Martinez,_Olivier

links to wiki found with those charts


She is not with Olivier Martinez anymore. Right now, she is dating some young guy as a fling, which is my point...she can't keep a relationship together for more than 5 years. Is this the curse of this placement?

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posted April 28, 2018 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just worried because I'm going to have this in my progressed chart for an extremely long time (NN in 1st, Neptune in 7th conj SN) after my first Saturn return happens and I just....

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posted April 28, 2018 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pierce checking Halle out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctgf5uxBQW8

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posted April 29, 2018 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I'm just worried because I'm going to have this in my progressed chart for an extremely long time (NN in 1st, Neptune in 7th conj SN) after my first Saturn return happens and I just....

Progressions manifest more on a soul or spiritual layer. It 'could' be physically in some cases. More, it's the progress of your chart over period of years.

I wouldn't "worry" about it... Might be only mild, and NOT show up in your life for a LONG time, 'if' you notice it (outer planet).

~* ...

I don't know how far away your Return is...
You have a natal NN in 12th, and it crossed over from the 1st?

If you wanted to apply a meaning, I'd say... Look over what I wrote about Berry's Neptune-SN Desc. Her H7 is Scorpio. See if there can be any application to yours.

Since you haven't had your Saturn Return yet, I'm going to guess that your natal Neptune is in Capricorn?, and that would make your DESC Capricorn with a Cancer Rising?

Look up the positive and negative attributes of the energies of Capricorn.

Capricorn can be very solid, steady, reliable unflappable energy ... while its flip side is greed, and ruthlessness.

Neptune Idealizes.. or draws in ones that you can't seem to 'get to know' or figure out. Ulterior motives are possible...

Neptune SN .. draws in partners from a past life? (if you're into that)

They could be a Spiritual Angel who is sacrificial and 'there' for you.

(humor).. Neptune is OIL too. With Capricorn?? How about drawing to yourself a rich spiritual OIL tycoon with old money, who will completely understand you, and make sacrificial compromises in the relationship because they LOVE you sooo much?
*harp arpeggios*????

NO WHOLE QUOTE please

(music) Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car (Billy Ocean) [4:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNgcYGgtf8M

EDIT---
OR, How about YOU becoming a RICH Corporate Executive, involved in areas dealing with Philanthropy in this world?

Woman Power!!! rah!!

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posted April 29, 2018 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Progressions manifest more on a soul or spiritual layer. I 'could' be physically in some cases. More, it's the progress of your chart over period of years.

I wouldn't "worry" about it... Might be only mild, and NOT show up in your life for a LONG time, 'if' you notice it (outer planet).

~* ...

I don't know how far away your Return is...
You have a natal NN in 12th, and it crossed over from the 1st?

If you wanted to apply a meaning, I'd say... Look over what I wrote about Berry's Neptune-SN Desc. Her H7 is Scorpio. See if there can be any application to yours.

Since you haven't had your Saturn Return yet, I'm going to guess that your natal Neptune is in Capricorn?, and that would make your DESC Capricorn with a Cancer Rising?


No my NN is in the 2nd natal. After my first Saturn return it will progress into the 1st with Neptune conj SN in the 7th My natal Neptune is in early early Aquarius and I have Leo NN. I'm Gem asc

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posted April 30, 2018 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by strawberryaa:
I have this in my natal chart too 1st house Libra NN/7th house Aries SN.


The natural reversal here makes this slightly messier as nodes in aries very much act like nodes in the first, and vice versa.

I'd really recommend reading some Steven Forrest, he describes it really nicely in Yesterday's Sky (I think) - basically, your SN habits are rooted in the seventh house, wanting to relate 121 with others, needing relationships to grow - but through the vehicle of Aries. This might be always wanting or needing to be partnered, but perhaps in a selfish way. Maybe it's very conditional ie 'I like spending time with you as long as ... xyz.'

The aim of reaching for the first house NN in this case would be to find your own balance (Libra) so you can find your own centre and 'self'. Essentially, loving yourself so you can love others, rather than being rooted in attachment.

Not sure if that makes sense, but that's how I'd interpret it.

Actually that might stand for a lot of the 7th house SN/1st house NN journeys - moving from dependency on others to self-love.

Doesn't mean you can never have a successful relationship, just means you need to love yourself. And if you love yourself properly, you can absolutely be in a successful partnership, while still retaining your 'self'.

Did you see Will Smith talking about how he and Jada deal with happiness the other week? Nails it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsDnOYdLI9c

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