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mercmercy99
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posted June 04, 2018 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercmercy99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there any significance to the aspects of house rulers? For example, my Aries 3rd house is empty; Mars in my chart is in the 8th house and makes aspects to the Sun, the Moon, Mercury, and Uranus. Would those aspects have any relevance to 3rd house matters? Or do I just ignore them and take into consideration the placement of Mars in my chart? Am I even making sense?? Haha

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 04, 2018 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you the type to not mince words? Find it difficult to be diplomatic? Are u abrupt or even brusque in your conversations?

Aries in 3rd tend to have a testing relationship with neighbours,siblings and people within earshot of what they say. Coz people can be like "Did you just say that?" You may rub people up the wrong way.

I would say...yes. The additional aspects to Mars-especially Uranus- suggests that you may say things suddenly that are shocking i.e "You have gained so much weight!"

Its not that you mean to offend. It just comes out.

But I will add that a planet transiting that empty house can "dominate" the influence i.e how many people did you offend when Uranus was in Aries?Maybe you revealed things that shocked and cut like a knife.

I have 2nd house cusp Taurus. The house is empty (save for Chiron). And the current ingress of Taurus energy on transiting Uranus has me adjusting to finance challenges.

Chiron and Saturn both influenced the cusp. The former by placement and the latter by the conjunction to the ruler (Venus).

But the Uranus in Taurus transit is being felt for sure

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mercmercy99
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posted June 04, 2018 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercmercy99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Are you the type to not mince words? Find it difficult to be diplomatic? Are u abrupt or even brusque in your conversations?

Aries in 3rd tend to have a testing relationship with neighbours,siblings and people within earshot of what they say. Coz people can be like "Did you just say that?" You may rub people up the wrong way.

I would say...yes. The additional aspects to Mars-especially Uranus- suggests that you may say things suddenly that are shocking i.e "You have gained so much weight!"

Its not that you mean to offend. It just comes out.


I think that I speak and write in a very pithy way. Super concise and to the point. I come across more confident than I actually am, which has its ups and downs. I don't think I'm too obliviously offensive. I love that kind of humor though. I wish I were as good at it as some people I know. I miss Joan Rivers a lot, let me put it that way. I think me not being too offensive myself has a lot to do with my Mercury and Mars conjunct in Libra. As well as my Mercury sextile Venus. I am a very considerate person and expect that in others. If you're inconsiderate to me or to someone I like, my mouth runs and I am likely to say some really harsh things that might make me seem like the bully.

The thing about siblings and neighbors: I don't have any problems with any of my neighbors, but my older brother and I rarely got along. The kicker with that is he also has Mercury conjunct Mars and Sun conjunct Mars, and his conjunctions are in Taurus, the other Venus sign. We clashed a lot, always exchanging insults and trying to make the other feel bad. He would usually win though because he's considerably older than I am.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 05, 2018 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its interesting that in Chaldean astrology, the 3rd house is ruled by Mars(not mercury). And this makes sense to me.

A lot of trouble and strife starts with miscommunication. Learning to argue and assert ourselves begins with siblings. Hence the term "sibling rivalry".
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The conjunction of your Mercu-Mars is no wilting flower when dishing out what needs to be said. But I could agree that having both in Libra makes you very conscious of the context of the relationship.

Libra wants to develop relationships long term and is always conscious of that. That is what stops many from getting into confrontational scenes with people or cutting people to the core.

The prefer to fight fair i.e there must be room allowed to kiss and makeup eventually Libra avoids writing people off(Scorpio doesn't).

I have Mars conjunct the 7th house cusp of Libra. I do understand the balance of trying to assert oneself without resorting to hitting below the below.

Aries or Mars on the 3rd house cusp is often indicative of male siblings. Or atleast siblings that like to " compete"(Mars)and outdo each other.

My 3rd house cusp has Moon therein. My siblings are both female(Moon) and I feel married to my siblings(Moon rules Chaldean 7th house) because what makes them happy, pleases me too. I avoid fighting with them and try all efforts of diplomacy.

My siblings are also quite sensitive people (Moon). They are quick to take offense to indirect communication (body language) and one has to be very tactful when addressing them. Otherwise they get defensive and emotions fly.

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