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Franco
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posted June 18, 2018 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aspects and transits that achieve radical changes in the personality? from being evil to being a good person, from being lazy to activity. etc..

thanks!

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Somna7H
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posted June 18, 2018 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Radical ?
It must be Uranus.
No wait it's a very slow moving planet.
So process is not fast.

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posted June 18, 2018 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto/Uranus mixed with Mars/Merc. These planets are super dynamic & can initiate
overnight shifts.

Imagine having a fallout with your family & then packing your bags & leaving.

You lose your cool with someone and get beaten up. Or you assault someone...badly

Getting into an accident and losing a limb or going blind.

Hearing a secret revelation that changes things overnight.

My personal favourite is Pluto on Merc transit. Unbelievable!!

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hypatia238
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posted June 18, 2018 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps transit Uranus aspect natal Mars. Planet of change meets planet of action. Specially if that person has Mars aspect pluto in hard aspect natally.

Kind of building from what Aries23 is saying.

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Franco
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posted June 18, 2018 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks to everyone for your replies.

When I speak of radical, I am not referring to time, I am referring to the person. Transit may be slow but the effect is assured.

Example this question I ask because I found a friend after 1 year and I found a different person .. this person no longer suffered from social panic, he lost a lot of weight, many projects among other things ... he was the opposite and He also never let himself be helped by anyone .. He only explained that everything flowed, he started to have different thoughts but he did not propose it but it all started one day that he started practicing "running" (sport) and from that day He felt different. He told me about his evolution with his social panic theme but in 1 year it was a brutal change.

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posted June 18, 2018 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto conjunct AC in natal chart can do this.

Tr pluto through the 1st house too.

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posted June 18, 2018 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Pluto conjunct AC in natal chart can do this.

Tr pluto through the 1st house too.


Or Pluto opposite/square asc.

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posted June 18, 2018 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Or Pluto opposite/square asc.

Touche.

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posted June 18, 2018 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Pluto conjunct AC in natal chart can do this.

Tr pluto through the 1st house too.



Thanks !!

Assuming that the cause of the change is pluto / ASC.

Pluto transit transforms / molds people depending on the aspects you have natally?

Because the change was positive and not negative?

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posted June 18, 2018 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Franco:

Thanks !!

Assuming that the cause of the change is pluto / ASC.

Pluto transit transforms / molds people depending on the aspects you have natally?

Because the change was positive and not negative?


Yes pluto GAINS through LOSS, the reward of pluto tends to kick in after the loss. I wonder if some kind of loss triggered all these changes in your friend?

Those quotes that are a cliche, "I found myself when I loss you" LOL is very pluto.

Uhh transits through his 8th house!!!!! from Uranus or Pluto could also explain it. I could see how a transit to the 8th house would lead to a ton of psychological purging and growth. I just experienced moon in the 8th with someone in synastry and wow it got dark for a while there but a lot of psychological purging took place I feel and I gained a lot of insight; it went from really dark to really light. So I could see how a tr from pluto or uranus to the 8th can be extremely empowering and lead to drastic changes too.

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posted June 18, 2018 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Touche.


Lol hypatia. 👍

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posted June 18, 2018 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes pluto GAINS through LOSS, the reward of pluto tends to kick in after the loss. I wonder if some kind of loss triggered all these changes in your friend?

Those quotes that are a cliche, "I found myself when I loss you" LOL is very pluto.

Uhh transits through his 8th house!!!!! from Uranus or Pluto could also explain it. I could see how a transit to the 8th house would lead to a ton of psychological purging and growth. I just experienced moon in the 8th with someone in synastry and wow it got dark for a while there but a lot of psychological purging took place I feel and I gained a lot of insight; it went from really dark to really light. So I could see how a tr from pluto or uranus to the 8th can be extremely empowering and lead to drastic changes too.


I would tend to agree with this as well.

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posted June 19, 2018 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to everyone for your replies

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posted June 19, 2018 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Franco:

Thanks to everyone for your replies.

When I speak of radical, I am not referring to time, I am referring to the person. Transit may be slow but the effect is assured.

Example this question I ask because I found a friend after 1 year and I found a different person .. this person no longer suffered from social panic, he lost a lot of weight, many projects among other things ... he was the opposite and He also never let himself be helped by anyone .. He only explained that everything flowed, he started to have different thoughts but he did not propose it but it all started one day that he started practicing "running" (sport) and from that day He felt different. He told me about his evolution with his social panic theme but in 1 year it was a brutal change.


You know I am re-reading this and it could be tr uranus or tr pluto through the sixth house..

Keywords: many projects (work), weight loss (health stuff), social anxiety (mental health, 6th opposes 12th), running (health stuff, improves anxiety and leads to weight loss), not allowing himself to receive help (6th is the house of service so his views around this transformed/changed).

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posted June 25, 2018 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely Uranus.

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posted June 26, 2018 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Definitely Uranus.

Yes I think pluto is more about psychological purging and internal changes that lead to transformation and growth, a more internal process and relationships that enter your life that facilitate this process.

Uranus is more tangible, more in your face, like Uranus lets you know it has arrived and is going to do its thing LOL, Uranus is like "Yep, I am here." In my experience though when Uranus manifests in my life it leads to changes that I have longed for a long time and it comes and is like "its time now, its happening now, put your seat belt on bc is going to be fun." Idk if is bc Uranus conjuncts my chart ruler Jupiter but I associate it with positive changes and exciting times.

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posted July 02, 2018 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another option is that transit Pluto or Transit Uranus were forming a quindecile with one of his personal planets (165 degree aspect, 2.5 degree orb).

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posted July 02, 2018 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Another option is that transit Pluto or Transit Uranus were forming a quindecile with one of his personal planets (165 degree aspect, 2.5 degree orb).

Natal Saturn 1615' in Libra 5th H.
Currently Transiting Uranus 2 in Taurus I guess.

I desperately need a Radical Change to get out from my current crisis. 😟
Will I able to do that ?

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My Chart: http://imgur.com/m0qQlLl

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posted July 05, 2018 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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