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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 02, 2018 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since I was a little girl, I noticed I have always attracted Scorpio suns to be either big enemies or rivals. I remember a few girls in elementary or high school that were Scorpios and hated my guts. I didn't really understand why.

Now that I'm older and more aware of astrology, I noticed it is not just Scorpio suns anymore. They can be any sun sign but as long as they have Scorpio placements or strong Plutonian influence, they hate my guts.

I don't even do anything to offend such people. In fact, I admire them. They emit such a powerful vibe and usually earn my respect right away. It's usually just females, too. I only know of two Scorpio/Pluto heavy females that don't hate me.

I have Mercury/Venus square Pluto, Sun trine Pluto, and Uranus and Neptune in the 8th house. Would that be strong enough to attract negative energy from such people?

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posted July 02, 2018 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They feel threatened by you, heavy plutonic females struggle a lot with fears/insecurities/anxiety I have noticed.

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posted July 02, 2018 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm you surely have strong plutonic vibes atleast, don't know if you carry the charecteristics also?

I'm plutonic with Scorp Pluto Oppo my Sun merc, 8th house stellium etc.

I don't clash with females at all (unless its someone I get bad vibes from! Or if its a rude persn)

Also I'm marsian aswell, but for some reason, no I get very well along both with males and females. But I'm extremely posessive of my love interests and friends. I will turn very unkind in order to keep away someone from my "flock".


BUT I get into power struggles with other plutonic people, but I don't think its my energy, or I mean, its mostly when I have strong opinions and do not back down. Also When I'm too willful. But I had very weird struggles with male friends, when I just tried to do my job and fix problems in our essays, and they started to feel angst and feel like I was pushy. Even when I was so laid back about it all.

I think, for me, males can sense I'm someone that can not be pushed around and won't run away sobbing, so it makes them to just go all in or something dunno.

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Are you a Leo? I love you Leos! You guys are so fun, shiny, confident, bright, charismatic, and strong!

You guys are in my top 3 most favorite signs in the whole zodiac.

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posted July 02, 2018 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
Hmm you surely have strong plutonic vibes atleast, don't know if you carry the charecteristics also?

I'm plutonic with Scorp Pluto Oppo my Sun merc, 8th house stellium etc.

I don't clash with females at all (unless its someone I get bad vibes from! Or if its a rude person)


Melinn, you are a sweetheart with a huge heart, anyone would be lucky to be your friend.

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posted July 02, 2018 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should have said guys/girls.

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posted July 02, 2018 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
Hmm you surely have strong plutonic vibes atleast, don't know if you carry the charecteristics also?

I'm plutonic with Scorp Pluto Oppo my Sun merc, 8th house stellium etc.

I don't clash with females at all (unless its someone I get bad vibes from! Or if its a rude persn)

Also I'm marsian aswell, but for some reason, no I get very well along both with males and females. But I'm extremely posessive of my love interests and friends. I will turn very unkind in order to keep away someone from my "flock".


BUT I get into power struggles with other plutonic people, but I don't think its my energy, or I mean, its mostly when I have strong opinions and do not back down. Also When I'm too willful. But I had very weird struggles with male friends, when I just tried to do my job and fix problems in our essays, and they started to feel angst and feel like I was pushy. Even when I was so laid back about it all.

I think, for me, males can sense I'm someone that can not be pushed around and won't run away sobbing, so it makes them to just go all in or something dunno.


I don't think I am Plutonian at all.. or at least, how I perceive myself.

Here's a picture of me. I don't feel Plutonian vibes, but you can see and decide for yourself.

I forgot to mention I also have Sun trine Pluto.

I do get jealous from time to time, usually when I have reason to and I know it. I don't really have obsessive tendencies or attraction to dark things/situations. In fact, I am terrified or cautious with dark situations. I don't also have a desire for power or control, maybe because people have always given it freely to me. Sometimes, I want other people to take the lead (especially in relationships). Certain things I just can't be bothered with.

Are you a Taurus sun? If you are, I think that will help with female relations. I find that Scorpio suns are quite wary or don't get along with other females unless they are the alpha in the group. It's either they have the power or they're alone. I find Taurus suns could really care less about power.

You are probably as willful as my own Scorpio friend. She has Sun conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, Mercury and Mars also in Scorpio. She doesn't take sh*t from anyone unless she knows she is the one that's wrong (Venus in Libra).

I agree with males being able to detect people they can't step over. But I find that when it comes to other male, they do tend to push it just like how females do it with other females.

I wouldn't be surprised if you get into power struggles with other Plutonians. Powerful people hate other powerful people.

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posted July 02, 2018 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in the First here. I don't hate you.

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posted July 02, 2018 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have that Leo strong presence gaze in your eyes that I have as well. Like that don't mess with me, not in a bad way, I know that look, I have it. Like you can defend yourself. It could be strong personalities clashing. I use to clash with leo women occasionally bc we are both strong, you can't dominate me and you would not let me dominate you.

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posted July 02, 2018 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Are you a Leo? I love you Leos! You guys are so fun, shiny, confident, bright, charismatic, and strong!

You guys are in my top 3 most favorite signs in the whole zodiac.


Yes I am a Leo!!

And thank you! Yes we can be all of that.

Are you a Scorpio too?

My top 3 that I really like are Aries, Capricorn, and Scorpio. Then I also like Virgo and Sag.

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posted July 02, 2018 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Pluto in the First here. I don't hate you.

LMAO thanks Randall! I don't hate you too. You just made my day ❤️

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posted July 02, 2018 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You have that Leo strong presence gaze in your eyes that I have as well. Like that don't mess with me, not in a bad way, I know that look, I have it. Like you can defend yourself. It could be strong personalities clashing. I use to clash with leo women occasionally bc we are both strong, you can't dominate me and you would not let me dominate you.

😭😭 I know!! I have it but I'm really really actually not aggressive like that. Standing up for myself has been quite a struggle for me. It's either I get very domineering or I just let things slide. Standing up for other people? No problem. I can do it with my eyes closed (Mars in Libra opposite Saturn in Aries).

I think you're a Virgo right? What Pluto generation are you?

I don't really clash with Virgos. I have a strong affinity with them ❤️

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posted July 02, 2018 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your eyes seem more compassionate to me. Pisces? Fighting for the underdog and for the victim.

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posted July 02, 2018 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Your eyes seem more compassionate to me. Pisces? Fighting for the underdog and for the victim.

Cancer moon. My MC is also in Pisces, though. I think I heard Alyssa Sharpe say in one of her MC videos that the MC is also your "internet face", so to speak. Maybe that's what you are seeing.

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posted July 02, 2018 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
They feel threatened by you, heavy plutonic females struggle a lot with fears/insecurities/anxiety I have noticed.

That doesn't mean they're threatened, though. I can be very insecure, but I'm not threatened by a lot of people. I deal with anxiety and depression. I don't see many people as rivals, at all.

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posted July 02, 2018 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer would have been my second guess. Sympathetic and nurturing with your friends. Maternal. Protective. Mess with your cubs at their peril.

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posted July 02, 2018 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Cancer moon. My MC is also in Pisces, though. I think I heard Alyssa Sharpe say in one of her MC videos that the MC is also your "internet face", so to speak. Maybe that's what you are seeing.

Yes I see that compassion he speaks off and I have that too that mix of I am very sweet and compassionate but I am strong and don't mess with me (I have moon in pisces, venus and mars in leo). Leo is the tiger after all, you might have a hard time standing up for yourself bc of the venus in virgo but you have that tiger spirit NO DOUBT mixed in also with the compassionate soul, its there I see it, maybe you are not as aware of it as you should be. I see both in your eyes just like I see it in mine, your eyes remind me of mine LOL.

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posted July 03, 2018 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes I see that compassion he speaks off and I have that too that mix of I am very sweet and compassionate but I am strong and don't mess with me (I have moon in pisces, venus and mars in leo). Leo is the tiger after all, you might have a hard time standing up for yourself bc of the venus in virgo but you have that tiger spirit NO DOUBT mixed in also with the compassionate soul, its there I see it, maybe you are not as aware of it as you should be. I see both in your eyes just like I see it in mine, your eyes remind me of mine LOL.

Interesting. You and I have both Leo, Virgo, and Pisces placements.

I feel like IRL though, you would be much more assertive than I am. I'm more of a charmer, not gonna lie. But I'm not really good at using that to get what I want. I should learn I do intimidate people sometimes without meaning to, especially softer souls.

Leo mars is very regal, I find. The way you guys walk, I would have guessed Leo right away, even though the Sun might be in a different placement. Definitely not folks to take sh*t from anyone.

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posted July 06, 2018 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I don't think I am Plutonian at all.. or at least, how I perceive myself.

Here's a picture of me. I don't feel Plutonian vibes, but you can see and decide for yourself.

I forgot to mention I also have Sun trine Pluto.

I do get jealous from time to time, usually when I have reason to and I know it. I don't really have obsessive tendencies or attraction to dark things/situations. In fact, I am terrified or cautious with dark situations. I don't also have a desire for power or control, maybe because people have always given it freely to me. Sometimes, I want other people to take the lead (especially in relationships). Certain things I just can't be bothered with.

Are you a Taurus sun? If you are, I think that will help with female relations. I find that Scorpio suns are quite wary or don't get along with other females unless they are the alpha in the group. It's either they have the power or they're alone. I find Taurus suns could really care less about power.

You are probably as willful as my own Scorpio friend. She has Sun conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, Mercury and Mars also in Scorpio. She doesn't take sh*t from anyone unless she knows she is the one that's wrong (Venus in Libra).

I agree with males being able to detect people they can't step over. But I find that when it comes to other male, they do tend to push it just like how females do it with other females.

I wouldn't be surprised if you get into power struggles with other Plutonians. Powerful people hate other powerful people.


Yes I do have Taurus sun in 9th! Also a nice trine from him to my Virgos Asc. You are right, even though I'm as said a bit too edgy wtih plutonian and marsian energies prominent, that Taurus and virgo energies seems to calm it.


I can be very pleasent and warm and super giving. I don't need to be an alpha in a group but I'm a swede, I wan't balance in "power" haha.

We sound alike in this! I can and will step up and lead IF I feel the people in the group will answer well to be lead! If they don't wanna work hard and go all in, I can't be bothered at all. I like leading, because I like thing going forward, not bc of power.
If there is someone who matches me energy wise, meaning hard worker and grounded I get so happy, I love being a power couple so to speak. But if its a rude too dominant person, I will drag my feet and be very unpleasant haha. I won't take any ******** and can see a lier and a person who tries to take advantage miles away.

Your expression to me in this picture of you, (and may I say you look so lovely! <3) is like "You may proceed, but I will end you if you are gonna try to step over me"

Pluto trine sun is powerful, its integrated energy so it won't feel prickly atleast for others so thats great!


About scorpios (plutos) vs scorpios (plutos)
I ha started to think like this; Its two very harsh energies. So if you put two or more people with that energy prominent in a room, the energies will come together and it will not feel very pleasant so to speak. Everyone in that room will feed of one others harsh energy! That energy will bounce around like a disasterous monster all happy and giddy haha, just an image I have about it

If one or some of the plutonians have things in their chart calming that energy it will not explode. Like earth, lots and lots of earth haha

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posted July 06, 2018 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Melinn, you are a sweetheart with a huge heart, anyone would be lucky to be your friend.

Aww Hypatia you are too kind! (blushing)
You made my day, I'm happy you feel that way <3 I feel the same about you!<3

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posted December 06, 2018 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are intensely sexy

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posted December 06, 2018 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Moon here
If I hate someone it will only be if I have been hurt or played with my feelings.

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