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aquagembaby
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posted July 03, 2018 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im still debating whether quincunxes are really worth studying or spending a lot of time interpreting. does anyone here swear by them, or relate to theirs?

supposedly, moon quincunx saturn would be my most prominent one. but all of the interpretations just sound exactly like moon conjunct or square saturn. so i dont see the point of it existing LMAO

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posted July 03, 2018 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear ya.

I have Sun inconjunct Chiron(close to exact). And to my understanding it works similar to an opposition.

But unlike the opposition, the two energies don't meet on any point. Infact they threaten each other to the core. So much so that the native struggles to reconcile them into their nature.

This aspect is also linked to disease. Because there is no clear position on what to do and feeling "conflicted" happens.

The opp calls for balance and a medium to two extremes. The square calls for inner conviction vs external resistance whilst the inconjunct works on a more unconscious constantly uncomfortable level.

Take for instance Taurus and Sag in inconjunct by sign. Taurus is security and Sag is freedom of movement.

So consider a person with Moon in Sag and Venus in Taurus in inconjunct.

The individual wants complete freedom of movement(Moon in Sag). But Venus in Taurus is a collector of stuff and loves it.

So the home (Moon) where the individual wants open spaces and freedom to roam around(Sag). There is likely to be clutter(Taurus) and lots of valuables (Venus)

Should she throw/give stuff away as to assert their emotional need for a clutter free home?

But that will make them feel very insecure(Venus inconjunct Moon). It may be an extremely painful and impossible task to sell/give away a single thing.

Or maybe they can keep all the stuff they have accumulated (Venus in Taurus). But that would mean that they have to worry about maintenance of those things, secure them so that they don't get stolen and look for places to place them at home.

And this inevitability imposes on their freedom of movement in the house, their ability to travel when and if wanted (without worrying about their stuff being stolen). But also their ability to keep an open mind to think of other things beyond what they "have" (Taurus inconjunct Sag)

As a result there is always a discomfort with Moon/Venus inconjunct. And the discomfort never gets resolved as the native creates and destroys again and again.

So they create wealth (Venus in Taurus), then become restless and want freedom from its responsibilities (Moon in Sag).

Or they want love and security (Venus in Taurus). But marry/ fall hopelessly inlove with someone whom is the most unreliable and superfluous individual that they may have chosen (Moon in Sag)

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posted July 03, 2018 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

This aspect is also linked to disease.

OMG. 😱
Disease ?

I have Moon Inconjunct Uranus and Sun Inconjunct Neptune.

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aquagembaby
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posted July 03, 2018 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries

in theory everything you say makes totally sense. but every time i try to analyze a quincunx, i always find something else in the chart that will explain it. for example, if someone has moon in sag quincunx venus in taurus, but they have heavy earth placements...or venus in 4th. those would explain it more, instead of the quincunx. but idk id have to hear of more real life examples from people that swear by their quincunx.

ive been looking to delve further into my astrology studies and ive always put off the semi aspects, and im trying to see if its worth looking into. just not sure yet.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 03, 2018 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It all depends on how deep you want to go into astrology, but the quincunx/150° aspect is a major aspect. It is the only 30° aspect not created from an even number divisor of the 360° circle. So it is a standout.

360 / 2.4 (two and two-fifths) = 150°

A keyword is adjustment. So Moon quincunx Saturn does not have the hard drive of the square with Saturn or the off/on relating/trust issues of the opposition to Saturn. Rather than driving a person to a strategy or action as the square can do, it tends to show you pull up short of a full effort to warm up to others and express affection.

Moon quincunx Saturn indicates some issues with self-doubt, prone to guilt or feeling sorry for yourself; not being at ease with yourself around others, holding back at times when it is an appropriate time to be warm and engaging. There is still the tendency to try to gain affection by being good through working to do good or extend yourself to others through constructive efforts. But it shows a tendency for holding back emotionally when/with whom it matters.

The quincunx is more subtle, and can indicate the potential for physical health issues to arise later from psychological ones. That depends on other factors in your chart, the signs, etc.

Acceptance of the quincunx is a bit of a litmus test for understanding aspect dynamics in the move to advanced astrology. Beginning and intermediate students may set it aside.

The quincunx aspects are quite often culminated (orb 0°00-05') by progression at the time of pivotal life events like accidents, health crises, death, etc.

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posted July 04, 2018 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thereaper95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got too many in my natal:
Sun Gemini quincunx Pluto Scorpio
Sun Gemini quincunx Uranus Capricorn
Moon Aries quincunx North Node Scorpio
Leo Asc quincunx Saturn Pisces
Leo Asc quincunx Neptune Capricorn

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posted July 06, 2018 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Kannon

is it subtle b/c it's more subconscious? and by "adjustment" do you mean that the person tries to do things to compensate for something they are unable to do? in the moon quincunx saturn example, the person will overextend themselves in more practical matters and they'll do anything BUT actually be more emotionally vulnerable

from your description, i definitely relate to "working to do good or extend yourself to others through constructive efforts" but i also have a Sun and Venus in Aqua so i've always been volunteering my entire life, and i feel like my awkward and unemotional way of dealing with people comes from these influences. so im not really sure.

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posted July 07, 2018 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quincuxes are very important in my opinion.My moon and sun both inconjuct mc,something that makes me feel very stressed with people sometimes.My twin sister has moon and sun quintile mc.And that makes a difference.When we moved together at a new house ,she was going to grocery shop next to the house, and she was very open and talkative to the owner.When i was going i was serious and not talkative.Owner didnt know we are twins so he started to feel very akward.When he finally saw us together he felt kind of relieved.Anyway all i want to say is that i feel inconjuctions as stressful aspects that need a lot of work.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 07, 2018 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
@Kannon

is it subtle b/c it's more subconscious?


Yes, especially when Moon, Neptune, or Pluto are involved.

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... and by "adjustment" do you mean that the person tries to do things to compensate for something they are unable to do?

I mean a change of internal perspective, state, or pattern that is not dependent upon external changes, but works in stream in the life they already have. This can often be necessary before the person can find a purpose or niche in life.

Moon quincunx Saturn presents the opportunity this lifetime to learn to stabilize your moods and emotionally based perceptions that are affecting your sense of belonging and constructive purpose. It is not the relational 'issues' entanglement of an opposition, but not yet the flow of the trine and the emotional stability it implies. Yet you can get to that this lifetime with some awareness and adjustment of your perspective as to your worth, and in the routines or habits that could be generating your perspective. As yourself, "Is this emotionally stabilizing and healthy for me or is it promoting anxiety and inhibition?"

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