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Topic: Without really knowing them, wanting to protect them, even give your life for them
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Lalafortunaea
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posted July 03, 2018 11:42 AM
  
What do you think could cause a person to have such an effect on others that they (others) instinctively want to protect that person, even jump in front of a car or take a bullet for that individual?IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 11:48 AM
I have Pluto conjunct Valentine, Sun and Mars in composite with my ex and I would take a bullet for him. He is the only person that I have felt that way about, that I have felt I would die for him and take a bullet for him. I definitely felt that way at some point for him for many years. Asteroid Valentine #447
Asteroid Valentine (447) is the premier asteroid that describes true love. This is the asteroid we look to when we want to see real heartfelt connections in the natal chart and especially in synastry. Valentine is all about real love and the sacrifice it often requires. Sacrifice weaves a very strong thread through the meaning of this asteroid. Valentine is a contact that shows where forgiveness and sweetness toward another really are. Where we can overlook faults or look past short comings so we can enjoy the heart of another. This asteroid is not expectant or demanding and brings with it a very Pisces energy. Think: Pisces in love, and you will have a very good understanding of this asteroid.
Valentine in the natal chart shows where we sacrifice for the greater good or for love, where we give ourselves away selflessly. The house points to the area of life this action occurs. In synastry, Valentine can most certainly point to where we will sacrifice it all for another, where we put another before ourself, where we feel bonded and vulnerable, where we give our everything in the name of love and can point to the most loving relationships we will ever have. Above all, Valentine is about giving.
^^Keeping that in mind and that PLUTO rules DEATH, it makes sense I felt that way for him, that I could even sacrifice my life for him. https://www.truthinaspectastrology.com/asteroid-valentine.html IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 11:54 AM
I am not sure if the planet person would do anything for the valentine person or the valentine person would do anything for the planet person.In synastry my Valentine conjuncts both of my parent's PLUTO. My mom said that when I was born something happened that did not happen with her other two kids, she felt like she was falling in love with me. I think Pluto conjunct Valentine is why. I think then that the planet person would do anything for the Valentine person. My ex has Mars conjunct Valentine on my Neptune and square my SUN, I would do anything for him, he is Valentine and I am the planet person. Then again my Valentine squared his Sun conjunct Uranus and so we have sun square valentine double whammy, it was love at first sight. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 12:02 PM
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hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 12:08 PM
I should add that his Mars conjunct Valentine conjunct my AC and Neptune and squares my SUN.I think his Valentine conjunct my AC plays into the whole willing to take a bullet for him for sure. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary
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posted July 03, 2018 12:25 PM
I have really noticed Neptunians to have this effect on some people. They just seem so vulnerable sometimes and that they need protecting. I have also noticed Jupiterians can also have this affect. They just come off so childlike and naive sometimes that people will make excuses for their behavior and protect them when they have really gotten themselves into some real trouble. Also, i have noticed cancer mars people to be good at getting help from others when they in trouble. They are similiar to Pisces where they can come off a little helpless. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 12:34 PM
IDK taking a bullet for someone is a huge deal, I dont' go around wanting to take a bullet for neptunians and jupiter types...I would be dead by now. Also neptune conjuncts my AC and Jupiter in the 12th rules my chart and I don't need to be rescued if anything I tend to protect my loved ones, Mars rules my IC and is in Leo in the 8th. Its the ultimate sacrifice you can make for someone. I know a guy with Dejanira conjunct Sun and Venus in scorpio and he would take a bullet for a lot of people. I have venus conjunct mars in the 8th and Valentine in the 8th, I have only felt that way about one person and my parents. Death and deep bonds are ruled by pluto so I would think pluto/scorpio/8th house stuff and valentine and dejanira would be involved. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 12:40 PM
I would also take a bullet for my parents. My valentine conjuncts their Pluto and my Mars rules the IC falls in Leo in the 8th.IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary
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posted July 03, 2018 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
IDK taking a bullet for someone is a huge deal, I dont' go around wanting to take a bullet for neptunians and jupiter types...I would be dead by now..
Hehe i am speaking more about when you are being close to these people. But this is just my experience though. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Hehe i am speaking more about when you are being close to these people. But this is just my experience though.
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Radium
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posted July 03, 2018 02:04 PM
This definitely describes my relationships. I often give my all to people, I care too much about others well being to the point where I drag myself down.I have Venus conjunct Neptune so their problems usually become mine. I am very giving and so much show I can be taken advantage of. I have to distance myself from others to avoid going crazy. This has been a theme in my life this month with my Transit Venus in 10th. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 02:09 PM
Huh The guy I said who would die for a lot of people:1. Sun conjunct Venus in Scorpio in the 3rd exact square exact Dejanira in the sixth (would sacrifice himself including his life (scorpio) to serve others (dejanira in the 6th). 2. Juno conjunct Valentine in the 4th house exact. 3. Neptune rules his DC, has Moon in aries square Neptune (e.g. hero complex). He went to the army and fought a war, has PTSD. He would die for his country, has a strong desire to die like that, he feels is honorable to die like that and the ultimate sacrifice for his home land (juno conjunct valentine in the 4H). He would die for his brothers too and people he has a deep bond with, he even said he would take a bullet for me. Well his juno conjunct valentine are right on my chart ruler jupiter conjunct uranus. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted July 03, 2018 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
What do you think could cause a person to have such an effect on others that they (others) instinctively want to protect that person, even jump in front of a car or take a bullet for that individual?
Maybe strong Neptune "help me I am vulnerable" aspects? IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted July 03, 2018 04:45 PM
Pisces rising here. People look at me like I'm a deer about to be hit by a car!IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2018 05:22 PM
A lot of neptunian people play out the role of the rescuer. I remember playing that role with my then best friend who is a cancer, we were at a club and two dudes started fighting and we were pushed to the floor bc they were busy fighting each other on top of us and I spoke up bc I felt a strong instinct to protect my friend, in that moment I was thinking of her and not of me. My strongest planet is neptune and I have moon in pisces. She is cancer with moon in scorpio yet when things got intense I was the the one protecting her and speaking up. As a cancer I know she felt super unsafe in that moment.Perhaps my strong compassion from neptune combined with Mars ruling my IC in Leo in the 8th with IC in Aries kicks in. IP: Logged |
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