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Astra
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posted July 15, 2018 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Do you have Cancer placement?

The Cancer placement makes him so sensitive and quick to attack before he finishes rationalizing the situation. So, every time I come too direct, I always feel like he drags me into the war field or he becomes ignorant. At the end of the day, I feel like I'm wasting my time and energy being direct.

I don't like confrontation, I don't like repeating myself if I know the person I am with is naturally manipulative. So I manage to call him out of his manipulation once for a while. It doesn't mean I let me in one, but my goal is to let him know I notice, I collect, and he must deal with the consequences. At the same time, I have high tolerance and try to make it work, so, yeah, I need some time to reach the point.

I don't like feeling dependent to other people, including my friends or family, I am considering taking a new place where I can be alone for a while with my baby so I can think clear. Too much emotional drama drains me, too much people get involved confused me. My family kind of supports me to leave him (exclude my Dad, who thinks I need to be more patient and try to think it through once again as he doesn't want the baby growing up without a Father. He learns psychology, so he kind of understand where my husband is coming from and etc) but I can't just leave him like that as he can cause big drama and won't leave me alone.

I'm not openly religious, in the past I was, but due to some bad experiences, I keep the religious side within me.

So, what do you think a possible scenario to let the ship sinked slowly with those combo?


I don't have any signs in cancer. However, my moon is in the first house, which adds a "cancer" influence according to Bob Marks. I also have venus in the 4th house which adds a cancer flair. In addition, my moon, venus and mars all aspect pluto. My rising sign is capricorn, which is conjunct neptune. All of this adds a great deal of sensitivity and emotion to my otherwise cold gemini/capricorn combo.

Cancer itself is highly manipulative. A Gemini sun with capricorn moon makes a person very strategic and an expert and spotting their opponents weaknesses. It also gives them a great deal of perseverance. So if you add his cancer placements into this mix, then what you have is a very manipulative person who can easily use someone's weakness against them.

That being said, the way to deal with manipulative people (Cancer influence or otherwise) is to remain eerily calm no matter how angry or emotional they become. You need to have a poker face because they want to provoke you into showing a reaction. Don't give him what he wants!

He is basically an overgrown toddler so treat him like one. This will be good practice for you when dealing with your child's toddler years. Pleading with him will make things worse. You need to exert control over the situation by saying something like "Listen carefully. I will say this once and that's it: we are breaking up. We are not good for each other. I will raise this child alone. I don't want child support or anything from you. You don't have to like my decision to end this relationship, but you need to respect it."

That's all you need to say. You don't need to justify anything. Do not say anything more. If he throws a temper tantrum, then ignore him. If you are afraid of a physically violent situation, you can always ask a police officer or a or sheriff to be nearby when you have this conversation.

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posted July 15, 2018 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Just don't deal with Gemini Suns. That's my motto. Heard this story too many times with Gemini.

It's the cancer influence that is the issue. Geminis don't hesitate to leave a relationship when they don't like their significant other. They can tease or be insensitive for sure, but they typically don't care about inflicting pain on someone longterm because that would frankly bore them. I've run into this clingy and manipulative behavior when dealing with cancer or leo-influenced people.

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posted July 17, 2018 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Well ok I get what you mean about him growing up in domestic violence. My mother has Mars in Cancer and so did she. Her parents use to fight a lot. But It still doesn't give him the right to treat you the way he does. The cycle has to end somewhere and you know it's not healthy for the baby either. You have to do what's right for the baby now It's not only about him anymore. I really want sex with this Gemini but I'm trying to avoid it. It's really hard though so intense.

My Mom also has Mars in Cancer. She only reveals that her Father is a strict parent, who would give a punishment if his children didn't follow the rules (he passed away before I was born). She kind of follows the same pattern especially when she is angry, although, maybe, it's not that extreme, but there's a similarity.

Yes, I'm afraid the cycle continued, because I've seen how Mars in Cancer is attached to their home bringing. I have already communicated it with him, that he needs to stop the cycle, but I don't know if he listens to it or not as compromising or discussing with him is, like, a useless attempt, either he keeps talking when I talk or he is being an ignorant. He has a tendency to turn the table to make him looks like the victim too, even if he is the one who's lying or playing with fire (which lead to cheating).

It's funny, I don't feel that intense feeling to have sex with him, although I have found he exudes sexual appeal to some women. But he feels that intense feeling to have sex with me. I wonder what kind of synastry aspects influence it.

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posted July 17, 2018 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Just don't deal with Gemini Suns. That's my motto. Heard this story too many times with Gemini.

Yes. The first time I knew astrology, the only sun sign who I would never be in a relationship was a Gemini.

But then I think I should never say never, as I end up in a relationship with Gemini influence people. And the other lesson is I need to check their astro before I jump into a relationship with them.

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posted July 17, 2018 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astra:
I don't have any signs in cancer. However, my moon is in the first house, which adds a "cancer" influence according to Bob Marks. I also have venus in the 4th house which adds a cancer flair. In addition, my moon, venus and mars all aspect pluto. My rising sign is capricorn, which is conjunct neptune. All of this adds a great deal of sensitivity and emotion to my otherwise cold gemini/capricorn combo.

Cancer itself is highly manipulative. A Gemini sun with capricorn moon makes a person very strategic and an expert and spotting their opponents weaknesses. It also gives them a great deal of perseverance. So if you add his cancer placements into this mix, then what you have is a very manipulative person who can easily use someone's weakness against them.

That being said, the way to deal with manipulative people (Cancer influence or otherwise) is to remain eerily calm no matter how angry or emotional they become. You need to have a poker face because they want to provoke you into showing a reaction. Don't give him what he wants!

He is basically an overgrown toddler so treat him like one. This will be good practice for you when dealing with your child's toddler years. Pleading with him will make things worse. You need to exert control over the situation by saying something like "Listen carefully. I will say this once and that's it: we are breaking up. We are not good for each other. I will raise this child alone. I don't want child support or anything from you. You don't have to like my decision to end this relationship, but you need to respect it."

That's all you need to say. You don't need to justify anything. Do not say anything more. If he throws a temper tantrum, then ignore him. If you are afraid of a physically violent situation, you can always ask a police officer or a or sheriff to be nearby when you have this conversation.


My Gemini has Moon and Mercury/Mars aspect Pluto. His Moon conjunct Neptune and Mercury/Mars opposite Neptune. He isn't that cold person to me rather he sometimes likes his aloof times and caught up in another world a.k.a has a hard time focusing his attention. I don't know his rising sign, but he is raised by Scorpio sun and venus Mother. His mother is very secretive and doesn't trust people that easily, she likes giving vague information, so I don't know exactly his birth time, he even doesn't know it and at first he gives me his false birth date until I find the truth myself.

My brother who has Moon in Capricorn also said the same thing! He said, "listen to me, try to remain eerily calm, no matter what he says/does to provoke your reaction". But the problem is, I have moon in Aries, although it is trine Saturn and in the 4th house, it's still a fire moon. I kind of practice having a poker face though, but I am naturally very expressive, so it's still hard to do the poker face especially when I feel intense inside.

I had told him very clearly about the breaking up and also told him that I didn't want anything from him and fine raising this child alone as I felt our relationship became a toxic for me. I told him without emotional reaction. You know what, he gave me his back and went to sleep, he ignored me. I knew he pretended sleeping so I waited. He turned his back again, looked at me for awhile and said, "do you want to have sex?" I told him I wasn't joking and I need him to take the issue seriously this time. He gave me his back again and went to sleep. He always ignores me now whenever I try to address our issues.

He is an overgrown toddler, I can see it. I am worried he keeps repeating the same old same old.

How to know if Gemini has learned his lesson?

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posted July 17, 2018 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leave the house - move out. Or you'll never be rid of him.

I work with one (Sun in Gemini/Mars in Cancer). He was nice, then moody, then mean, so I "broke up" with him, and told him my reasons. The next week he's in my face asking why I don't talk anymore, and is generally acting like a child.

These placement will torture the hell out of you if you keep them in close proximity.

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posted July 17, 2018 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Leave the house - move out. Or you'll never be rid of him.

I work with one (Sun in Gemini/Mars in Cancer). He was nice, then moody, then mean, so I "broke up" with him, and told him my reasons. The next week he's in my face asking why I don't talk anymore, and is generally acting like a child.

These placement will torture the hell out of you if you keep them in close proximity.


Thanks for sharing.

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DualGemV2
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posted July 18, 2018 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Leave the house - move out. Or you'll never be rid of him.

I work with one (Sun in Gemini/Mars in Cancer). He was nice, then moody, then mean, so I "broke up" with him, and told him my reasons. The next week he's in my face asking why I don't talk anymore, and is generally acting like a child.

These placement will torture the hell out of you if you keep them in close proximity.


Lol, I literally just quit my weekend job over a Cancer Venus female. We both did as described to each other, nice and then moody.

I normally hold two jobs just for the double income, always good to have
income > expenses.

My boss was on my side for a while because i've been there longer and my job is more specialized then her.

She eventually cried foul back and convinced my boss after feuding for 3 years with me so I tendered my resignation, good luck finding another person in short notice willing to do what I do.

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posted July 19, 2018 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Leave the house - move out. Or you'll never be rid of him.

I work with one (Sun in Gemini/Mars in Cancer). He was nice, then moody, then mean, so I "broke up" with him, and told him my reasons. The next week he's in my face asking why I don't talk anymore, and is generally acting like a child.

These placement will torture the hell out of you if you keep them in close proximity.


I used to work with my husband and he did it too!

At first I thought he realizes what he has done and tries to say sorry, but he keeps repeating the same behavior and I get sick of it, like, don't come to me and say sorry if you keep repeating it.

The confusing part is, he doesn't give up to win me over again, like, he can be very very aggressive to make me accepting him again.

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