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Ami Anne
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posted July 29, 2018 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHY Some Signs are Hard for Some Planets?

This is an interesting discussion. I have Mars in the Fall position. That is my only planet in the Fall position. However, I can understand HOW the Fall position works. I will try to explain why certain planets do not function well in certain signs. Most of us have at least one planet in the Fall or Detriment. Understanding one’s chart is the single best way to understand oneself. I would exchange a billion years of therapy for a single chart reading with an astrologer who will tell you the truth! Onto the subject.

Mars in Cancer
I like to see BEHIND the eyes of placements. I do Astrology in a “watery’ kind of way. I do it from my heart. I “feel out” placements. Then, I use my head to put it all together.

Mars is the planet of drive. This includes all drives, such as searching for a husband to getting one’s Masters degree. All goals, drives and passions can be seen by one’s Mars. Hence, you can see how important Mars in in a chart. All personal planets reveal a SLICE of the person. The personal planets are the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars and Venus. Cancer is a cardinal sign, which equals “leader”. In this sense, Mars in Cancer is a go-getter. However, Cancer is a sign that tends not to be direct.

For example, if a Mars in Cancer wants to go to the Chinese restaurant, he may ask YOU if you want to go to a Chinese restaurant That way, he can take the “round about” route. It is scary for a Mars in Cancer to be direct. He would rather inch around an issue than put himself out there. He truly dislikes criticism. It wounds his tender underbelly. Think of the skinny,tiny, gluey crab under the hard shell. That vulnerable, little crab body is at the core of the Mars in Cancer native.Hence, if one understands this Mars in Cancer proclivity, one will go a long way to truly understanding Mars in Cancer. Also, one will not blame him so much when he seems “wishy washy”. To sum it up———- Mars likes to be direct. Mars in Cancer is afraid to be direct. Therein, lies the problem inherent in the Fall position for this planet in this sign.

Sun in Libra

I love Sun in Libra men. I am not sure I would want to be married to one. I would have to “try one” to tell you. However, I really like them as friends. One of my closest friends( ten years) is Sun in Libra, so I can observe this sign. Sun in Libra is “sunny”. They bring a positive vibe to the room. They are, usually, interested in you and what you are doing. They ask personal questions. They seem to really care about who you are and how you feel. They are wonderful with compliments.

As an interesting aside, Libra men do not seem to be deterred from “woman’s work”, such as helping to clean up the kitchen after a party. I find that some Sun signs, such as Sun in Leo men will never think to help with the dishes.

Back to our subject. Sun in Libra is in the Detriment position. Hence, there are issues. Sun in Libra tries to “people please” too much. They tend to feel guilty when they do not accede to every “demand” that comes their way. Also, they may not have the depth of ego core strength and confidence as does a Sun in it’s Home, such as Aries or a Sun in the Exaltation, such as Leo.

As I said, each person has one or more planets in either the Fall or Detriment, so please, don’t think you are doomed if you have one or more. You are human. The chart shows the manner and ways in which you are human!

Venus in Scorpio

I cringe when I see a Venus in Scorpio. This native is kind of a lost puppy when he is in love. He takes love “oh sooo seriously”, through no fault of his own. Scorpio is the sign of depth and passion. Love, in many ways, is a game( said by a Venus in Gemini, the queen of game playing :/). Scorpio does not really understand how game playing and love can go together. Venus in Scorpio is not wired to take love lightly. Hence, he seems to get his heart broken very deeply. He cannot walk away from a broken heart as easily as many of us. This is simply the nature of Venus in Scorpio. People should not trifle with this Venus. However, people being people will likely do so. Hence, if you have this Venus, try to guard your heart, to the best of your ability. If you cannot do this, know that the intensity when you love is simply your nature.

Moon in Scorpio

Another placement that makes me cringe is Moon in Scorpio. You could see “Little Miss Perfect” and think she is the “sunniest gal” in the room, but you would be wrong. I think of Sadie Robertson, who does seem like the “sunniest gal in the room”, but with her Scorpio Moon, you can know that there exists great rivers of depth there. Scorpio Moon does not feel comfortable to it’s owner. Scorpio Moon is like Scorpio Venus. It is too darn intense. Period.

The Moon is one’s gentle heart. Scorpio rules all things intense and hidden, such as serial killers. Hence, Little Miss Scorpio Moon has another side. This is not to say anything negative about her. God designs each chart with His own Hand. Hence, our struggles are things that He wanted for us. I think they were made to humble us, so we would find Him. The Scorpio Moon native has a certain “cross to bear”. That cross is that they experience emotions too intensely. Know that if you have a Scorpio Moon or when you see Scorpio Moon in a chart

Here is Part Two

http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/astrology/part-two-why-some-signs-are- hard-for-some-planets/

Part 3
http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/astrology/why-some-planets-have-a-hard-time-in-some-signs-part-three/


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posted July 29, 2018 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Scorpio rules all things intense and hidden, such as serial killers. Hence, Little Miss Scorpio Moon has another side. This is not to say anything negative about her. God designs each chart with His own Hand. Hence, our struggles are things that He wanted for us. I think they were made to humble us, so we would find Him. The Scorpio Moon native has a certain “cross to bear”. That cross is that they experience emotions too intensely. Know that if you have a Scorpio Moon or when you see Scorpio Moon in a chart

Scorpio energy, Scorpio heavy people, and even Scorpio moons are like crack to me. Someone being dark, and a little evil, in touch with their shadow and self aware, (but good to me and people I care about) gets me off in another man. Someone who's more than willing to kill for me is a good way to my heart, strangely enough. Doesn't mean I've dated someone who's killed. (I do have friends in the army though.) My ideal proposal would be something like "I will love and cherish you forever, and lay waste to a nation for you"

I'll just be like "awwww, so sweet!"

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posted July 29, 2018 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spot on for Scorpio Moon!

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posted July 29, 2018 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Scorpio energy, Scorpio heavy people, and even Scorpio moons are like crack to me. Someone being dark, and a little evil, in touch with their shadow and self aware, (but good to me and people I care about) gets me off in another man. Someone who's more than willing to kill for me is a good way to my heart, strangely enough. Doesn't mean I've dated someone who's killed. (I do have friends in the army though.) My ideal proposal would be something like "I will love and cherish you forever, and lay waste to a nation for you"

I'll just be like "awwww, so sweet!"


Haha thats my ideal man too I believe!
But not controlling though, I have Juno in Aqua and uranus aspects, I need freedom aswell. But other then that, I crave emotional intensity, and that scorpio gaze!
And just for once I would love to attract someone as obsessive and intense as I am towards me

But for some reason I attract libra sun and venuses, and diplomatic type of men, indirect men, the type that drives me crazy! (south node in Libra), and dsc pisces maybe thats why

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posted July 29, 2018 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
Haha thats my ideal man too I believe!
But not controlling though, I have Juno in Aqua and uranus aspects, I need freedom aswell. But other then that, I crave emotional intensity, and that scorpio gaze!
And just for once I would love to attract someone as obsessive and intense as I am towards me

But for some reason I attract libra sun and venuses, and diplomatic type of men, indirect men, the type that drives me crazy! (south node in Libra), and dsc pisces maybe thats why


Same, I do need some freedom too! But, mixed in with ample time of intensity, that's wonderful!

And also I don't care for Librans as mates. Sure, as friends they're fine, but I've never been able to feel much more than platonic feelings for Libra individuals. They're just too dry for me. They're sweet, sure, but not powerful enough for me. They usually do well with someone who's also very light and airy, and not too intense, as that can bother them. They often tend to be confused by intensity and even think someone being extremely passionate is some how wrong. In their own way they have an "obsessive" need for balance lol Or what they think appears to be balance.

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posted July 29, 2018 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Scorpio energy. There's just one problem. My Scorpio Ascendant is at 25 degrees and most of Scorpio is in my 12th house. In practice, too much Scorpio is probably bad for me. I'm not exactly sure what placements are /good/ for me though. After going through the entire zodiac, it seems like I have something to complain about with every placement in existence - including the placements I claim to really like. Most of the time, with the placements I like, I'm basically thinking this way: "What if I would actually be miserable with someone that had these placements? Reality doesn't always live up to the fantasy."

I dated someone with Venus in Scorpio once. No matter what Ascendant I gave them, they had Venus in Scorpio. That person did not seem like a Venus in Scorpio when I dated them. They felt like I wanted them around too much yet they would go over two weeks without wanting to talk to me on a regular basis. This doesn't sound like a Venus in Scorpio from what I've read. I assume their chart somehow compensated for the Venus in Scorpio qualities. It's hard to tell where the compensation is without an accurate Ascendant though.

I could have also dated a Moon in Scorpio once. His Ascendant is unknown to me and the Moon changed to Sagittarius on the day he was born so he could have had Moon in Sagittarius instead. The things we did together makes Moon in Scorpio seem plausible, but he was somehow very boring to me. He was not mentally stimulating and I need mental stimulation in a relationship.

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I have Jupiter in Virgo, which doesn't seem to be a very strong placement for Jupiter. It used to feel like a weak placement, but now I'm not so sure. Jupiter is stronger in other placements, no doubt. I just don't feel like my Jupiter is as weak as it looks at first glance.

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posted July 29, 2018 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the amazing responses. I did a Part two.

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posted July 30, 2018 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have yet to meet a Scorpio Moon I didn't like-and I have met/know/known/dated MANY! We are very drawn to one another-me having Cap Moon sq. Pluto and also Pluto parallel Mars. We get eachother's depths,fears, sexuality and so forth. If anything I've noticed is that *I* unnerve them sometimes.

Scorpio Venus/Suns-only had bad experiences.

Cancer Mars-dated a few and my Dad is one. Do NOT appreciate this placement at all :-/

I love Libras, just not for dating

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posted July 30, 2018 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post, Ami 👍🏻

I read the other part of your post. Everything else has good explanations, except Venus in Virgo. I enjoy reading your articles, but I feel like there's something missing in them. I think it might be the Cancer in your chart that gives you such a strong bias towards certain placements. I do not blame you, though. We all have our biases towards others. However, you could study a bit more of the things you don't understand or like so you are able to explain them and teach them to others better.

Just my two cents. It would greatly help with giving your articles more objectivity.

Also, would like to see Mars in Libra and Mercury fall/detriment in your next articles. I have trouble understanding Mercury in Pisces.

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posted July 31, 2018 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar

You have a good point about Venus in Virgo and I will change it. I will, also, do a Part 3 and add what you requested.


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posted July 31, 2018 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did the Part 3.

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posted July 31, 2018 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd also like to randomly add that Scorp moons I've met have had wickedly funny senses of humor!

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Also, would like to see Mars in Libra and Mercury fall/detriment in your next articles. I have trouble understanding Mercury in Pisces.

I ain't Ami lol but I'll add my two cents. A friend of mine has Pisces Merc. He is GREAAAAAAAT AT STORY TELLING!!!! He is really good at verbalizing everything that happens during his day, and tells it in such a way that it's like an exciting fantasy novel. And he's good at communicating everything that happens in his imagination. He's also got a really funny and imaginative sense of humor.

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posted July 31, 2018 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. My love has Libra sun, Scorpio moon, Scorpio Venus. Looks like I’ve hit the jackpot 😂

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posted July 31, 2018 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so cool, Lala. I did an excerpt on Mercury in Pisces on Part 3.

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posted July 31, 2018 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great additions, Ami 👍🏻 Very well written and explained. You got it down to a tee, the descriptions for Venus in Virgo.

I had no idea how to get in the head of someone with Mercury in Pisces. As someone with Mercury in Virgo, I have trouble understanding someone who doesn't think in a linear way. I just don't "get" it. Mercury in Virgo is very linear, much like Mercury in Gemini, if not even more. I was always great at figuring out things when it came to Science and all that. However, English class was a bit difficult for me. Not the writing part (that came very easily to me), but the reading part. I remember reading Shakespeare's work in English class and then I thought to myself, "what the hell does he mean". I wasn't very good at reading between the lines. I actually was better at it when I was a child, having Draconic Mercury in Pisces. But now, I'm not so good at it. So I guess, Mercury in Pisces would be the complete opposite of all this. I remember talking to a girl who had Mercury in Pisces directly opposite my Mercury. We would be talking about one topic and then she would mix it up with the topic we were talking about beforehand. She seemed perpetually confused and then I get confused.

Also, I find that Mercury in Pisces are better at writing poetry that is deep and elusive. When I write poetry, the message is direct even though I try to "beautify" it (Mercury conjunct Venus). With Mercury in Pisces, the stuff they write confuses me but it gives you the challenge of figuring it out, whatever they mean. They also have very beautiful, melodic speaking and singing voice, like a mermaid's.

I was also just wondering, if Mars wa
is dignified in Scorpio, wouldn't it also be detriment in Taurus? I never understood though how Mars doesn't do well in Taurus. I find that Mars in Taurus are more decisive than Mars in Libra and are very stubborn when it comes to getting what they want.

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posted July 31, 2018 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar_Leo_Queen

awww thanks. I take that as a compliment (I have mercury in Pisces). I have a lunch buddy and his mercury opposes mine. We are always confused with each other. I genuinely have a hard time thinking in Linear form - it helps when I draw it out. We would work ourselves in circle to come to a conclusion. He's very patient with me

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posted August 01, 2018 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Solar.

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posted August 01, 2018 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:

I was also just wondering, if Mars wa
is dignified in Scorpio, wouldn't it also be detriment in Taurus? I never understood though how Mars doesn't do well in Taurus. I find that Mars in Taurus are more decisive than Mars in Libra and are very stubborn when it comes to getting what they want.


As a Taurus sun merc , even though its not the same thing as Mars, in my humble opinon, I suspect its bc Taurus energy is so slow. Its like trying to budge a heavy block of stone. Mars is a direct energy. I (now again I just suspect) think Mars in fixed water sign scorpio does well bc scorpio as good with tactics, scheming, being obsessed to find solutions. Fixiates on problems and no matter what he will find a solution even if it will harm him. This is a good thing when it comes to war tactics, as Mars is the planet for war and tactics. Its how it works for my sun n merc oppo pluto and mars inconj pluto atleas.

While taurus is very slow, will not be bothered, thinks more about being comfy etc. So Mars here may be problematic. Although as with the stone/rock methaphor, it may be hard to budge a big round rock, but if you push hard enough or find where the linchpin is and remove it, it will start to roll downhill, first slowly but with momentum faster and faster and, now its impossible to stop it! So I guess thats why we see so many athletes, and soccer players etc with Mars in Taurus. Its a recillient placement for mars afterall. Taurus is recillient and tough.

But as said its just my feels about this energy and mars, I'm no expert

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posted August 01, 2018 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Same, I do need some freedom too! But, mixed in with ample time of intensity, that's wonderful!

And also I don't care for Librans as mates. Sure, as friends they're fine, but I've never been able to feel much more than platonic feelings for Libra individuals. They're just too dry for me. They're sweet, sure, but not powerful enough for me. They usually do well with someone who's also very light and airy, and not too intense, as that can bother them. They often tend to be confused by intensity and even think someone being extremely passionate is some how wrong. In their own way they have an "obsessive" need for balance lol Or what they think appears to be balance.



Yes and that balance thing is such bs too! I read many mistake it for real balance, and when we think about it, balance in whoms eyes? The libra person himself dictates in his own mind what balance is and then, he will tip the scales as he wish to gain that balance!

You are right, libran men ar great as friends. My Libra venus guy friend (a crush) was so accomidating, so tactful, pleasant and caring in the beginning. Its when my pluto started to come out and as you said, he seemed to be confused by that energy. We both lost it! He started to have defence walls like a capri/saturn, and I was like a ship without sails in the middle of a stormy ocean (my emotions) left all by myself to try to reach shore.

He did not help what so ever bc he has nada pluto/scorpio inhim. He just got scared by all that intensity I believe. If he has pluto himself, we would have sailed together in tha ocean^^

Poor things balance scales was all toggled and intangled all over the place ahaha! He really was so off balance in the end, I wonder if he will be able to pull himself together now ahahaha (Laughing with an evil laughter voice )

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I will do a Part 4 with Taurus Mars, which does have it's issues lol

Did I leave any out?

I think Chiron is very hard in the 6th House, as far as Chiron goes.

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posted August 01, 2018 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I will do a Part 4 with Taurus Mars, which does have it's issues lol

Did I leave any out?

I think Chiron is very hard in the 6th House, as far as Chiron goes.


I think Chiron is a good topic, too. I don't know if this counts, but what about doing one on Chiron conjunct the nodes/NN, if you haven't yet? Destiny is to seek pain, or what? Heal wounds? I'd be interested in hearing your take on that. Anything to do with Chiron in general is great, I think. Chiron conjunct MC could also be interesting.

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posted August 01, 2018 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have lots of articles on Chiron, Lala. I will start a new thread. Chiron fascinate me and it always seems to come true--i.e the house of Chiron is the most pain for people.

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