posted July 30, 2018 08:20 PM            

What exactly would you like to know? I have Neptune there. I think I have encounter enough people to see how this energy works.

posted July 30, 2018 09:34 PM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
hi Plut0nian2,

What exactly would you like to know? I have Neptune there. I think I have encounter enough people to see how this energy works.

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Hi

posted July 31, 2018 01:26 PM            

so in every relationship, I see myself devoted to a guy. Follow in their footstep then drop it because they didn't meet my standards: These standards or traits I viewed them vanished, out of thin air and I specifically remember thinking "wow you show your true self, why was I so blind" -- this is after the honeymoon phases died down so I thought it wasn't bad until it happens several times. I would become very disappointed within that month of "discovery".

I see myself becoming sad too, losing weight and not eating. I think after going through 4 relationships, I see this pattern. Not to dive in what they give out.

But I notice myself going in the same lane, if I don't pay attention. Life has so many problems on its own, it feels like a "maintenance" for me but I love to be in love. Yeah I don't see myself escaping Neptune, unless we are constantly reminding ourselves every hour but it leaves me feeling "empty" if I just remove that. I'm still struggling it honestly -- reminding myself this is reality. I am not sure if I will ever get married to the "right" guy.

posted July 31, 2018 07:13 PM            

I see.
Don't be sorry, if that fatalistic response is the truth then I want that. I started this topic because I've seen this placement (and a few others) always giving negative results to begin with.

In your case it sounds like smth is making you see others how you would like them to be even though they show their true self since the begin. It's just that you fail to see it in the first honeymoon phase which then leads to you feeling deeply disappointed.

Do you feel like you recognise immediately your soulmate when you see them?
That is why it is hard for me when I feel smth special about someone, it feels like fte wants us together. The pull is strong. In my case there are 2 problems. I have NN in 7th H, and those people have plamets conjucting my NN. According to my NN when I feel strongly attracted to someone is becaise I should be with that someone. So I don't know what to do. If I don't have that strong feeling that I can't get over about someone then I don't even care about having someone.

On the other hand I can't talk about relationships because all of them were platonic and I haven't been disappointed in the way you do maybe because they weren't real relationships though.

But it's that beautiful feeling that makes you wanna be with someone, if you are to control it or to not follow it then this leaves you with two options:
a) be with someone you don't really like
b) be alone
c) be with the one your heart wants and be disappointed.

What sign is your 7th H? Do you have other planets in your 7th H? and what aspects does your Neptune make?

posted August 01, 2018 07:42 PM            

I crush easily but when I get to know them, it shatters and I move on -- easily (with little disappointment).
I don't think I would recognize them easily but a big part of me wants to meet my soulmate so when I find someone that depicts that, I felt they are the one but then I realize I was wrong in the end. I feel I am always searching within them but I was always wrong or bad at selecting/seeing. My brother has told me, to stop making excuses for guys I've dated -- the sad part is I don't see that and maybe this is the disappointment. You can say I feel contradicted because I have a Venus in Aries (which is debilitated) . Maybe I was selfish for wanting the guy to meet that standard or idea of love - idea of loving you for your soul and giving. I find myself steer away from men who only likes me for my looks and not see what's beneath -- not saying I look great but that's great if I can but there's more to it.

It's the same way in a friendship for me. I've been used in the past. This part is very true: c) be with the one your heart wants and be disappointed. When I am single I find myself fantasizing a soulmate a lot.

a) be with someone you don't really like << I've done that and hate it. Never again. But it's because I was hoping one day our chemistry decided to unfold. Then I realize that's not how it works.

I was in a 15 years of friendship -- I didn't see for the truth. It was hard letting go but maybe its the fantasy I created I didn't want to let go. Or is it the empathy I have. It's confusing!

I think when you created a relationship (platonic or not) -- the Neptune in 7H becomes deep-setted. I find myself empathizing strangers the more I get to know them and only see what I want to see or focus on the good parts of them. I'm guessing you have Neptune 7H? It's funny how astrology works. We have different experiences. haha

posted August 02, 2018 03:44 AM            

My Neptune square my Sun (10H aries). Sextile Jupiter and Pluto. I had my chart rectify: Mars conjunct dsc but if I used my original chart, Neptune would have conjunct DSC. [/B][/QUOTE]

This is weird.
It's always love at first sight for me and it never has to do with looks. (I dislike it to) It's something that I strongly sense and it happens when I see someone's eyes or sensing his energy in some way.
It doesn't happen often at all. I hardly like someone (in that way).
I was never wrong in whatever I have felt till now (my gut feeling) about people and things but I can't say for sure when it comes to relationships since I didn't have normal ones.

I don't experience what you do. When I get to know someone I don't get disappointed. No matter what I feel for someone and my gut feeling I always taste others and expect to see if what I feel about them is ckrrect or not. (Pluto in 5th H square Mars and Venus, Saturn in 8th H).

I also have Neptune and Uranus opposite my Sun.
I am wondering if it has to do with my NN.
I've read for NN in 7th H that I should go with my gut feeling and that I have to trust immediate attraction to someone. Weirdly enough whenever I sense it with someone his planets conjuct my NN.

I don't know if my gut feeling has to do more with my Pisces Moon though or even Sun in 12th H.

Your brother tells you to stop making excuses while my relatives try to make excuses about the ones I like. I am picky tbh.

Where is your Moon and what aspects does it make? Neptune shoyld give you a good gut feeling but you're saying that you have that problem even in friendshisps.

posted August 02, 2018 12:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I would like to know your experience with this especially if you're closer to 30 yo or older.

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I'm 36 and I have no love life.
Actually I never had it.
So it's a problem too.
Neptune and Uranus both in my 7th House in Sagittarius. But it's no conjunction.

posted August 02, 2018 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
I'm 36 and I have no love life.
Actually I never had it.
So it's a problem too.
Neptune and Uranus both in my 7th House in Sagittarius. But it's no conjunction.

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posted August 02, 2018 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by pire:
About disapointment and therfore neptune (I have neptune on my sun/moon midpoint) I heard a yogi /mystic on youtube saying :

[if someone you are in love with "betray/disapoint" you] this somebody is pushing [you] towards ultimate reality from an illusory state. Be grateful for this.
http://youtu.be/Dl8MUnLfEsk

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Interesting, it doesn't make it easier though. It's like you always have to be disappointed and that is sad.

posted August 02, 2018 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Plutonian:
Somna I remember you from a thread of yours that we talked a bit.
I don't remember the details.Could yoi be more specific about what's wrong with your love life?

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I really don't know what's wrong with me.
I don't have any love relationship yet.
No love life.
I failed to start yet.
Neptune make my standers(read dilutional) so high that I failed to connect with any girl yet.

posted August 03, 2018 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by pire:
Plutonian, I understand, but please watch the video I posted, it is worth it

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Thanks pire. I did watch it. I actually agree with what was said. It gets difficult of course when I am in love. That is why I ask them ehat they are looking for and what they are able to give (emotionally) and I make it clear that I don't mind if they are not interested anymore. They can tell me and I won't ever bother them. However I won't forgive cheating. It's ok if it happens once and they tell me immediately. But doing it again until I catch them is unforgivable. They don't respect me in the slightest. I always take revenge after I completely get over it. When I am deeply indiferrent to that person. I never hurt myself in anyway and I will do smth that I will kniw it has an emotional impact on them as what they did to me. The reason I do that is because I am very open and let them know since the beginning that they are free to leave me whenever they want without even explain me the reason if they don't want to.. However I won't forgive cheating unless it is the first time that happens and the person comes to me and tell me. In any other case I will take revenge after a few years that I will be fine and I'll make sure that it will hurt only them as much as they disrespected and hurt me.

(I haven't been in normal relationships but that's the way I grt revenge and for me to get revenge it has to be smth really serious that I was clear about it since the beginning and the person agreed on it)

posted August 03, 2018 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
I really don't know what's wrong with me.
I don't have any love relationship yet.
No love life.
I failed to start yet.
Neptune make my standers(read dilutional) so high that I failed to connect with any girl yet.

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You're a man?? ( not that it matters I just thought you're a woman). Were you intereted in relationship since a teen or early 20s or did you feel the need later? Maybe you had other problems that didn't allow you to have relationships (health issues, financial problems = too much work/burdens.

Did you never fall in love with someone?
I remember very well talking about your chart but I've seen so many with this kind of problems (Neptune/Uranus/Saturn in 8th H, Saturn in 8th H, Venus in Aqua or Sag especially if accompanied by a fire or air sign Moon)
Do you happen to have Saturn in 8th ?

posted August 04, 2018 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
I was fall in love for first time(one sided love from me only) last year for first time when I was 35. And it did not work. Have no health issue. financial problems are main issue right now. But there are many ppl in world who are poorer than me but either married or in relation.
I have to be more practical not dilutional.
7th lord afflicted by Saturn.
And I'm a MAN. 😅
Please check the the link below to see my chart.
Thank you.

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You fell in love for the first time in your life at 35?!?!?!?!?!??
Did I get it right?

I am not a pro but seeing your chart it's one of those that I think even a novice knowing the basics would quickly notice that you have a problematic love life.
You have Neptune and Uranus in 7th H (classic)
Saturn in 5th H (I feel so sorry when I see this placement and Sun-Saturn hard aspects)
conjucting Mars in 5th H since you are a male Mars plays a more important role when it comes to sex. Whatever Saturn touches it makes it delay and puts obstacles to it.
Pluto conjuct Mars can lead to both extremes (addicted too sex or choosing to not have sex), because Saturn conjucts it too though the later one is more possible.
Neptune in my opinion affects both your 7th and 8th H of intimacy.
Neptune in opposition with Moon and Venus both in Gemini.. Venus and Moon in Aqua,Sag,Gemini and Aries in this order are a bit problematic anyway, so if there is a tiny help (Neptune in 7th H or Uranus in 7th H) those two are enough to make the native's lovelife non existant untill a point or problematic in some way.

posted August 04, 2018 09:46 AM            

It doesn't have to be disappointment or seeing things through rose coloured glasses and then suddenly waking up to reality.

It can be that ^ but that's not the only possible manifestation.

Twice in my life I was shocked in this way - the first time by a Pisces Sun and Moon guy who became addicted and completely changed his personality... and the second time with a Pisces Moon and Mercury guy who told me he had some mental issues but neglected to mention the main one, which was bpd, so when that hit me, it wasn't pretty.

posted August 04, 2018 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I'm in my 30s. I see a Neptunian theme with my Mars/Neptune conjunction in the 7th... but it's not always "disappointment"

It doesn't have to be disappointment or seeing things through rose coloured glasses and then suddenly waking up to reality.

It can be that ^ but that's not the only possible manifestation.

Twice in my life I was shocked in this way - the first time by a Pisces Sun and Moon guy who became addicted and completely changed his personality... and the second time with a Pisces Moon and Mercury guy who told me he had some mental issues but neglected to mention the main one, which was bpd, so when that hit me, it wasn't pretty.

But there have been five other guys in my past who I didnt have this kind of experience at all with. And my current bf of over a year hasn't surprised me in any major way yet. He has a Moon/Neptune conjunction pretty close to my Mars/Neptune. I feel like it's a strong spiritual connection which is definitely Neptunian... but no disappointments lol...

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posted August 04, 2018 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
@Plut0nian2

Yet,you are correct.
I was 35 when I started to feel love.
May be in couple of years later I will have love life doesn't matter good or bad.
Saturn making delay for sure.
Thank you.

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At least you haven't been suffering for a long time at all since you feel in love at your 35yo for the first time

posted August 04, 2018 06:47 PM            

I could tell after awhile he was really getting TOO idealistic, putting me on a pedestal, projecting, not seeing me clearly at all. Even would straight up make "wonderful" things up about me that weren't true.

Someone with a weak sense of self who wanted the attention from someone making up great things about them would have loved all the "amazing fantasies" he made up, even if it wasn't true at all. I didn't like it, however.

It's one thing to romanticize, it's another to make up your own version of the person you're with. Don't get me wrong, I've got some Pisces, but I ain't gonna fabricate who I want the person I'm with to be.

Eventually, everything he'd say, I'd have to correct him and say "hey, no, that's not true, that's not realistic at all."
His rose colored glasses would even skew reality and he'd remember events in a really deluded way, not true to what happened at all.

And eventually I just flat out told him that he wasn't trying to get to know the real me, he was in love with his fantasy idea of me, which did not flatter me. I don't want to be with someone who falls in love with fantasies. That ain't love, to me.

I was fine to stay with him, so long as he could stomach my gentle, yet firm corrections to his assumptions. Eventually, me constantly bursting his bubbles started to grate on him. And the fact he was annoyed by me expecting him to learn about the real me and love the real me really offended me. I couldn't stand that he preferred his lies to the possibility of really knowing someone and loving them.

I realized he didn't give a crap in the end, and we broke it off. It was a short experience.

posted August 04, 2018 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
At least you haven't been suffering for a long time at all since you feel in love at your 35yo for the first time

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Nope not at all.
I was always worried about my education,then job and earning money.
Though I did not achieve much enough regarding above those yet.
But from past year I started to worried about love, romance, marriage and suffering has begun since then...

posted August 05, 2018 12:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
... In my opinion external planets will express themselves no matter what. So even if the native chooses someone who is a good person and their relationship/partner is not Neptunian in any way then something (external) will happen in irder for the native to be disappointed...

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Neptune is not a malefic. Its purpose is not disappointment. It does test our vision and ability to be spiritually informed in our relations with others.

The outer trans-personal planetary energies must be developed in us as we develop as souls so that Uranus can be realized as the higher octave of Mercury, Neptune the higher octave of Venus, etc.

Neptune in the 7th house brings a search for the ideal in others, and in relationships which reach beyond the desire for mundane (purely physical, instinctive) relationships.
The question is not what is Neptune doing to my relationships, but what am I doing in my relationships with Neptunian lessons and energies.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted August 05, 2018 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Neptune in the 7th house brings a search for the ideal in others, and in relationships which reach beyond the desire for mundane (purely physical, instinctive) relationships.
The question is not what is Neptune doing to my relationships, but what am I doing in my relationships with Neptunian lessons and energies.

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