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Topic: What indicates financial struggles?
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ChildofVenus
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posted August 05, 2018 02:16 AM
  
Someone who struggles in life financially?
Unemployment or having odd jobs here and there? Having to sell items or themselves for money? Or depending on others for money?IP: Logged |
Somna7H
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posted August 05, 2018 06:51 AM
I have Moon in 2nd House Gemini.I first started to earning money when I was 34.
Now I am 36 but financially not happy.
Looking for better(more salary) and stable Job.
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ChildofVenus
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posted August 05, 2018 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by Somna7H:
I have Moon in 2nd House Gemini.I first started to earning money when I was 34.
Now I am 36 but financially not happy.
Looking for better(more salary) and stable Job.
Could Capricorn on 2nd house cusp cause this?
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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 05, 2018 08:43 AM
Theoretically, a stellium in 2nd can contribute to financial woes.This is like having many opinions(Planets) on how to self sustain(2nd). And they don't all agree on the fundamentals. When there are too many planets in a house,there is too much energy invested there and the probability of things going awry increases. That is if the native concerned does not make a concerted effort to have all the energies work together. The other possibility is mine. When an individual has NO planets in the 2nd house and the planets are concentrated elsewhere. This does not mean that the native will be 'poor'. But to be able to self sustain or have financial security, is not at the top of their priorities list. I for instance have a concentration of planets in 7th through to 9th. And since I have a strong "western hemisphere" chart, relationships and cooperation with others, may be the way that I earn or overcome financial woes. The ruler of the 2nd house is in the 7th. So this suggests that I may either get financially sorted after marriage. Or that my spouse is likely to be financially more well off than I (and thus take care of me). I dislike the latter probability. I want to do things for myself. But there does not seem to be enough energy in the natal to motivate such a focus. North node/Chiron in 2nd house I don't see as "strong". IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted August 05, 2018 09:03 AM
Or maybe Saturn in 8th house?IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted August 06, 2018 10:52 AM
2nd H in Capricorn or Saturn in there
North Node in 2nd H if not supported by benefics. Neptune in 2nd H or 2nd H in Pisces.
(confusion about how to make money, passive or the person isn't interested in materials since Neptune is considered the most spiritual planet having nothing to do with earthy things/needs like money) I have 2nd H in Leo with Venus, Mars and Jupiter in there. Sun which rules my 2nd H is in 12th H. Pluto in 5th H squares all of the 3. I was never comfortable financially, I'm poor but not to the point where I don't have food and a home.
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Or maybe Saturn in 8th house?
Why would you say this? I am wondering because I have Saturn in 8th H (in Aqua) and even though I have the 2 benefics in 2nd H I am actually poor.But 8th H is others' people money. So yes with Saturn in there I don't get anything from others (not asking of course) except of food from my mom since I can't work.
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Gemmi
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posted August 06, 2018 12:45 PM
2nd house emphasis might also mean being thrifty. I have 2nd house stellium in Libra: Mercury-chart ruler, Saturn and Pluto.Saturn conjunct both Mercury (7deg) and Pluto (5deg.)
I am very thrifty and frugal, but I also have some Virgo placements (Sun, Venus, ASC) which might affect this attitude towards money.
I never experienced serious financial hardship. I always have money put aside in case I need it. I always prepare for potential financial troubles.
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Radium
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posted August 06, 2018 01:41 PM
So I'm doomed lol Venus conjunct Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn Progressed Neptune in 2nd Cap Thing about it is I have Jupiter in 2nd natal in Sagittarius but it doesn't do much like they say it does IP: Logged |
Lerena
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posted August 06, 2018 06:00 PM
Uranus in 2nd house can mean fluctuating income, which also tends to manifest as occasionally struggling financially since the money you're making is not stable and predictable. I have this placement in my natal chart. I'm not exactly pleased it's in this house, but my natal chart has kept my hope alive that I can make it as a writer. The only problem is while I build my credibility and skills as a writer, my current, and temporary, source of income isn't the easiest to live on. I'm on SSI. I depend on government assistance to support myself, because I have a crippling case of depression that prevents me from being able to work. The average job also overstimulates my senses and I am drained by the presence of other people very, very easily and dangerously quickly anywhere in public besides my home. I need mental stimulation to cope well with conditions at work and right now I can't do anything that satisfies this requirement. I'm extremely sensitive to my environment both at work and outside of work. For these reasons, SSI is necessary to support myself until I have established myself as a writer and I can generate enough income to afford health insurance and support myself financially. quote:
Neptune in 2nd H or 2nd H in Pisces.
(confusion about how to make money, passive or the person isn't interested in materials since Neptune is considered the most spiritual planet having nothing to do with earthy things/needs like money)
I second this. I have Neptune in 2nd house in my natal chart and I generally prioritize my spiritual path over making a bunch of money. Sometimes I spend money on things I want rather than need, but my earthly needs are generally not that difficult to satisfy.Chiron in 2nd house can point to financial problems too and also Chiron in 6th house. Chiron in 6th house can point to problems at work either due to poor health or just keeping a job in general. Even though I don't have my dad's official birth time, he could have Chiron in 6th house. My dad's main area of pain is his area of income. He is not able to keep a job and he depends on my mother for a place to live. In exchange, my dad provides transportation for my sister and I. Without his own money though, he's not able to do much. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted August 07, 2018 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:Neptune in 2nd H or 2nd H in Pisces.
(confusion about how to make money, passive or the person isn't interested in materials since Neptune is considered the most spiritual planet having nothing to do with earthy things/needs like money)
Agree with this!!
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YellowGerbera
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posted August 07, 2018 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Haha that's me! Born poor and always struggling to make ends meet (I wish I had a better paying job)! I have never been unemployed though. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted August 09, 2018 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Gemmi:
2nd house emphasis might also mean being thrifty. I have 2nd house stellium in Libra: Mercury-chart ruler, Saturn and Pluto.Saturn conjunct both Mercury (7deg) and Pluto (5deg.)
I am very thrifty and frugal, but I also have some Virgo placements (Sun, Venus, ASC) which might affect this attitude towards money.
I never experienced serious financial hardship. I always have money put aside in case I need it. I always prepare for potential financial troubles.
Do you not think that this is living in defensive mode though? Something I do too. Have you tried aggressively investing or making money in multiple avenues? I am looking out for that now. Mercury in 2nd I read is always "thinking" (Merc) of how to self sustain(2nd). It seems a good placement for money I would think. But the planets you have there seem to get on and are about being conservative or cautious when it comes to Money. Even Pluto. Now if you had Uranus/Mars/Sun or Moon therein, things would get more colourful. Lol A friend of mine has Sun/Venus/Mars in 2nd house not in aspect and he has financial woes. This despite Venus being there. He spends on lovers and has fallen into debt because of one(a Leo that I didn't like who left him). So I perhaps think that Mars/Sun there may have contributed to that spending? He is fortunate though to get a job as he appears of comes across strongly reliable-Venus in 2nd trines Mc in Virgo.
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Gemmi
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posted August 09, 2018 04:20 AM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Do you not think that this is living in defensive mode though? Something I do too. Have you tried aggressively investing or making money in multiple avenues? I am looking out for that now. Mercury in 2nd I read is always "thinking" (Merc) of how to self sustain(2nd). It seems a good placement for money I would think.
The funny thing is that I am not living like an ascetic. I just buy what I really need and never spend money on useless items. And just like you mentioned, my Mercury in the 2nd house really helps me to deal with money issues in wise and intelligent way.
I am not stingy, I just seems to know what to spend money on and when. I managed to put aside the most during tr Saturn passage through my 2nd house in Libra! It was also the most socially active period of my life so I did spend money, but wisely  What I am really afraid of is that due to this Pluto-Saturn conjunction in the 2nd house I might lose everything at some point, as this aspect isn't well known for building any lasting structures...But on this I would have little control, I guess Please don't quote IP: Logged |
Lalafortunaea
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posted August 09, 2018 06:54 AM
I've got the essentials. I'm grateful for that, but to be honest I do struggle quite a lot, and a lot of that financial struggle has become due to health issues and physical weakness. Financial woes brought on by health problems??
I've got Gemini in my second house - no planets ~ IP: Logged |
Spica
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posted August 11, 2018 03:49 PM
Knowing a person’s financial life is complicated in astrology. For that, we must see the condition of the moon, the second and sixth house, and venus. There are certain techniques to find out the financial condition of a person and all planets are taken into account, but especially the ones I mentioned. Yes, some aspects and placements can make a person extremely rich and others poor. You can also find out how a person gains money, and how much. You can find out what kind of profession the person does as well.------------------
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Randall
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posted August 16, 2018 05:59 PM
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ChildofVenus
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posted August 19, 2018 08:00 AM
So the second house being in Capricorn can cause this?IP: Logged |
Somna7H
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posted August 19, 2018 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Could Capricorn on 2nd house cusp cause this?
Nope,my 2nd House is in Gemini. ------------------
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ChildofVenus
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posted August 19, 2018 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Nope,my 2nd House is in Gemini.
Someone else mentioned 2nd house Capricorn or Saturn.
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ChildofVenus
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posted August 19, 2018 10:42 AM
This is the persons chart  IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted August 19, 2018 07:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Somna7H:
[b] Nope,my 2nd House is in Gemini.
Someone else mentioned 2nd house Capricorn or Saturn.[/B][/QUOTE]Yes me. I saw the person's chart and his/ger 2nd H is in Capricorn ruled by Saturn. Saturn is in 8th H (others' money). I can see how Capricorn in 2nd H can make it difficult for the native to make money. Saturn brings unfair obstacles and much delay, needs patience and hard work to get minimum pay off. What I don't understand is why interpetatiins of Saturn in 8th H say that iy indicates poverty for the native. 8th H is other people's money, which means that the native won't gain money/material things from others/partners (since 8th H is pattner's 2nd H) but I don't see how and why it indivcates poverty for the native.
I am discussing this because I have Leo 2nd H cusp with Venus, Jup and Mars in it but I'm poor. And I am wondering if it's Pluto's "fault" squaring those three or if it's my natal Saturn in 8th H. IP: Logged |
Somna7H
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posted August 20, 2018 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Somna7H:
[b] Nope,my 2nd House is in Gemini.
Someone else mentioned 2nd house Capricorn or Saturn.[/B][/QUOTE]I can't find any connection of Saturn with my Finance. Then why I'm struggling financially ? I'm confused again. ------------------
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ChildofVenus
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posted October 05, 2018 12:27 AM
What about Cancer on the 2nd house cusp?IP: Logged |
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