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WaterBearingMaiden
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posted August 21, 2018 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WaterBearingMaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My midheaven is in Taurus with no planets in the 10th house and what seems to be no major connections to the MC (Just moon trine MC and sun sextile MC). I've read on my MC and it says that I should be drawn to careers in finance, landscaping, etc. Careers I've wanted over my life:

Childhood: veterinarian, crime detective, lawyer
College: Anesthesiologist, Nurse anesthetist, economic research

I graduated with a degree in economics and want to work with data and solve puzzles for economics. I especially like behavioral economics. I want to pursue phd in econ and eventually try to be a professor.

According to my NN, I should be leaving gemini qualities behind such as trying to figure out how people think and analyzing that. I see that as taking economics off the table even though that's really what i want. I also read that MC doesn't necessarily mean your career but what vocations bring you joy. I have recently gotten really fascinated and fulfilled in learning about finance and investments.

What else can I discern from my chart about my career and what does the MC say specifically about an individual when it comes to career and work?

http://imgur.com/a/njPZ2

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Kannon McAfee
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posted August 21, 2018 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might also post in Personal Readings.

Sign over the MC alone is not really enough to characterize what you 'should' do as a career. But looking at this chart I can see it is not accurate enough for me to interpret it using cusps or aspects to them. I know this because the loka planets (in your case, Saturn, Uranus, Mars) are not aligned properly to verify the structure of the chart or even suggest it is relatively accurate -- in spite of the to-the-minute time used to cast it.

Are you sure you are a Leo rising personality?
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs/#leo
Compare that to Cancer rising just above it.

If the chart is bumped forward by around half an hour the loka planet Saturn is contra-parallel the MC. Otherwise, it has to be bumped back significantly for any alignments to show in longitude or declination with any of the loka planets. Those are underlying planetary themes that always show up with particular major aspects with the Asc, MC, or IC -- or in 1st house (and sometimes if closely conjunct/parallel Sun or Moon). Mars being pretty closely opposite Moon may fit the bill.

Economics relates to the 8th house. If your chart were turned back about 5° on the Asc, you'd get a very close aspect of Sun conjunct/parallel the 8th house cusp, and a wide square by loka planet Uranus to MC. That looks like a possible click into place.

Every chart cusp matters, not just Asc and Midheaven. Each cusp is a potential Asc-like point that is very specifying IF it gets a strong major aspect from a planet (conjunction, parallel, square, sextile, trine, quincunx, etc).

The South Node in Gemini with North Node in Sagittarius indicates a general movement from first getting education in particulars, communication, analytic thinking, etc -- so that you can later learn how it fits into the bigger picture. Sagittarius is about the big picture. Gemini about gathering learning in lateral fashion (through curiosity). You don't abandon the natural Gemini qualities you start with or are most natural. You just advance that to its natural sympathetic development to gain greater balance. The two are not opposed in the sense of do and don't. You can't have one without the other. Just see the progression from learning at the basic level of following your curiosity to putting the pieces of the big picture together to make something whole.

Think of it also as great interest in many things (Gemini) makes you a better teacher (Sag).

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mirage29
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posted August 22, 2018 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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WaterBearingMaiden
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posted September 01, 2018 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WaterBearingMaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
What are loka planets?

I'll explain loka planets, but none of this may be necessary to you taking steps forward in your career path. So don't let it confuse you further!

Loka is a term from traditional Indian astrology (sometimes called Jyotish or Vedic) with the same root as location and refers to a planetary sphere of consciousnes indicated in your soul history that is a point of emphasis in your recent or current development. They are indicated in the nirayana zodiac (sidereal, Indian) by the decanate positions of the Sun and Moon. There can be 1-4 possible loka planets indicated because sometimes both Sun and Moon indicate the same one, and because of the interjection of modern planets (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) upon traditional sign/decan rulerships. So both Sun and Moon could fall in a decan that has two planetary significators (traditional, modern).

In your chart Sun is in the first decan of (nirayana) Aquarius, which indicates Saturn or Uranus. Moon in second decan of (nirayana) Sagittarius, which indicates (Aries) Mars.

At least one of those planets will have an ascending/angular position relative to the Ascendant or Midheaven in an accurate chart. That means in the 1st or 12th, 9th or 10th houses and/or a very specific aspect relationship to Asc or MC: conjunction, parallel, square, quincunx, opposition, or contra-parallel.

No such condition exists in the chart you have linked. So I know it is not accurate. A chart set for 16:42 is not accurate, and no chart set between about 16:30 or 17:00 will be accurate.

Your Asc could be in mid-Leo where loka planet Saturn makes a contra-parallel to Asc and/or MC, or earlier in Leo where Uranus squares MC; it could be back in Cancer where Mars is in 1st house or conjunct Asc and/or Uranus is contra-parallel Asc.

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How can I fix my chart for you guys?

You don't need to fix it. That is for a specialist like me to do. I can help you with it -- at least narrow it down as with you reading the descriptions of Cancer rising and Leo rising to see which fits your personality.

If you can get birth time data confirmed by the hospital that could help, but don't count on it. There are occasional situations in which even official birth time records are wrong. That is why these internal astrological checks are so valuable and essential. I use them on every single chart that I interpret for a client -- every single time.

Until then -- and regardless of any resolution with your birth chart -- follow your passion, your intuitive leanings. Those will not be wrong. You don't need confirmation from astrologers for what you know within yourself and are passionate about!

One step at a time in the general direction you want to go. It need not be an either/or dilemma.

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WaterBearingMaiden
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posted September 01, 2018 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WaterBearingMaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon,

Many years ago my mother looked at my original birth certificate and told me I was born at 16:42. I have a copy of my birth certificate (not a copy of the original, just what they send you as a replacement) and it doesn't list a time... I'm going to call the medical records dept at my hospital next week and see if I can't track this info down to verify. I know my mother said it was definitely between 16-17h and she said it said 16:42 exactly, but I want to clarify

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Randall
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posted September 02, 2018 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, mirage.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted September 03, 2018 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI. Even the hospital can have errors with birth times. For example, my birth certificate has 18:12 listed but my mother clearly remembers me being born much later. Indeed, for most people who know me, they agree that Aquarius rising does not fit me at all.

I later found out that I was nearly switched at birth with another baby, so I'm fairly certain that it may explain the inaccurate time. Especially if the birth certificate was filled out after the fact. (Which isn't all that uncommon during a difficult birth, and mine was.)

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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 04, 2018 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing, Stubborn Virgo. That's another odd situation of birth/certificate data that I'd not heard yet. Shouldn't be that surprising though.

It further illustrates what I have said over and over. The time on a b.c. is the least important piece of data to the medical people recording it and should not be taken as gospel truth.

Even now, Astrodatabank still references a fraudulent b.c. for John McCain, linked to them by a data collector in 2008. That b.c. is so blatantly phony that any person with good eyes who examines it will see that it has been altered on numerous data points. Documents are made by people who make mistakes (intentionally or unintentionally).

We need not put faith in any of them as astrologers since those data are non-astrological in nature. There are internal astrological factors that bypass a lot of the subjective or off-kilter view of the astrologer and can narrow down the accurate Asc area(s) for most charts. Anything that can be asserted can be tested if the astrologer has the astrological literacy to do so.

But not having a precisely valid birth chart does not mean you don't know who you are. Ultimately, the answers are within and a matter of trust. Even though I'm a rectifier, I would always talk someone off the ledge of astro-anxiety about such a situation. I know it can feel like living in a confusing world without a map to navigate, but sometimes it happens for a reason -- seemingly to trust yourself from within rather than an astrologer or the apparent objectivity of subjective interpretation of a birth chart.

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Randall
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posted September 08, 2018 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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