posted August 23, 2018 09:27 AM            

I don't need that, those are kind words, but I'm not girl in need. I'm just regulary f*cked up person and that kind of flirting is something that you'll import to high school girls

I had experience with that type of men before and every time i decide or melt, they are turning into ppl i get connected, but they make me suffer and have heavy time to unhook.

Usually, they come as friends, after story ends, we are friends no more.

I have beautiful, great men friends, normal communication, admiration, without too much sweetness and savior behavior, but never actually dated some of them :/

So, I'm not astro expert, maybe you've noticed, I'm here recreational, but is this vibe coming from afflicted Venus?
VE 90 rxSA 0 Mo.. or wide opposition Sun - Mars?
or it can be something else?
.Some of them have Ve90SA Ve90Ur, Ve90Mo.. all troublesome aspects for men, regarding woman.

Also, I would like to know did you've noticed some patterns in behavior of men who flirt with you?

So, just to emphasize, I've started from the simplest aspect, but believe that you can elaborate much efficient this matter.

posted August 23, 2018 02:55 PM            

This is clearly Neptune's work.
It's the classic savior syndrome, at least you are not the one who saves addicts/abusers etc.
You may have Neptune conjuct ASC or DSc
Neptune in hard aspect to any personal planets sun/moon/venus/mars.
Maybe you have Pisces or planets in 12th H?
Otherwise it may just be a Nrptune in 7th H attractine Piscean/Neptunian men.

posted August 23, 2018 08:42 PM            

The reason why I didn't believe it was Neptune in 7th H or conjuct DSC is because you would be the one to seek Neptunian traits in others, for example you would fall for people who need to be saved/you would want to be saved/you would be the one looking for it instead of wondering why you attract it.

Yes what you said has nothing to do with it.
We are talking about Neptune here 100%

Flirting patterns you say..

I always attract people who have Venus in Capricorn conjuct Saturn (tight conjuction), Neptune (looser) and Uranus (even looser conjuction) plus Scorpio personal planets.. It's a standard. I know anymore that whoever I am initially attracted to and feel like I "found the one" has this mix, it's creepu but I am used to it.

I have Pluto in Scorpio in 5th H of flirting
and Capricorn DSC with Uranus and Neptune conjuct DSC, North Node and Lilith in 7th H too.

Venus rules 7th H naturally, so the ones I attract are a mirror to my 7th H.. since their Venus is in the sign of my 7th H and receives conjuctions from the planets my 7th H does.

I don't relate to my Mars at all. Mars and Venus in Leo are square Pluto though and to that I relate completely. Aspects are stronger than planets in signs too (unless the planet is unaspected).

My relationships aren't even considered relationships.. they are completely Neptunian (platonic ones) and Uranian (physical distance) and most of the time via internet entirely.. Yeah.. 3 internet relationships the shortest one being a year. lol
What I always loved was the reaction when I was talking for the first time explaining them that I won't ever meet them and that it happened before and I ended up chatting for more than a year with the previous guy.. and they are like "hahahahaha he must be a loser not having other options, I'never chatted more than a week with a girl I met online and I would never do it, it's not normal" and considering they have Venus in Capricorn with tight Saturn conjuction plus heavy Scorpio it's normal that they aren't attracted to this thing.. but in a magic way they end up doing exactly what they thought they would do.. (having an internet relationship)

Anyway I won't talk about my 8th H. I feel like I am not helping you at all since you don't have similar placements/aspects. I don't wanna end up overwelming you.

posted August 24, 2018 03:16 AM            

Venus and Moon Conjunction in Gemini.
Both Opposite Neptune.

posted August 24, 2018 12:51 PM            

Pocketrocket! Reminds me of this song--

(music) Beneath Your Beautiful (Labrinth, ft. Emeli Sandé, lyrics) [4:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqIxCtEveG8

I don't mind "sport-flirting" … I can take it, AND dish it out equally well!! but it takes a secure and very sensitive and strong person to really get to know me, and see through my walls?

Venus Taurus H5 opp Saturn-rx Scorpio
tJupiter in Scorpio is ON my Saturn today! ~oy

(music) Love Hurts (Nazareth, 1976) [3:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXfBjZYC1_4

posted August 24, 2018 01:02 PM            

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I have neptune conjunct asc in 1st house

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That'll def play a big part then!

posted August 28, 2018 06:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Damn it! I knew it since the moment you mentioned that others sense you are kind of fragile/like you need to be protected by them! Why don't I ever trust my intuition man? I immediately thought to myself that you have Neptune conjuct AsC or Neptune in the 1st H.
Planets in houses are way stronger than house signs unless the house is empty. So just a Pisces ASC is not strong enough to make others have such a strong need to protect you and make it a standard theme.

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The initial of most of my emotional relations usually starts in that way. So, maybe I need some kind of saving, but surely others cannot do that instead of me

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The reason why I didn't believe it was Neptune in 7th H or conjuct DSC is because you would be the one to seek Neptunian traits in others, for example you would fall for people who need to be saved/you would want to be saved/you would be the one looking for it instead of wondering why you attract it.

Yes what you said has nothing to do with it.
We are talking about Neptune here 100%

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Are those "saviors" ppl who also "need to be saved", so this is some kind of PROJECTION? The last guy, had also NEP conjunct with his asc and quite strongly aspected..

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Flirting patterns you say..

I always attract people who have Venus in Capricorn conjuct Saturn (tight conjuction), Neptune (looser) and Uranus (even looser conjuction) plus Scorpio personal planets.. It's a standard. I know anymore that whoever I am initially attracted to and feel like I "found the one" has this mix, it's creepy but I am used to it.

I have Pluto in Scorpio in 5th H of flirting
and Capricorn DSC with Uranus and Neptune conjuct DSC, North Node and Lilith in 7th H too.

Venus rules 7th H naturally, so the ones I attract are a mirror to my 7th H.. since their Venus is in the sign of my 7th H and receives conjuctions from the planets my 7th H does.

I don't relate to my Mars at all. Mars and Venus in Leo are square Pluto though and to that I relate completely. Aspects are stronger than planets in signs too (unless the planet is unaspected).

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My relationships aren't even considered relationships.. they are completely Neptunian (platonic ones) and Uranian (physical distance) and most of the time via internet entirely.. Yeah.. 3 internet relationships the shortest one being a year. lol
What I always loved was the reaction when I was talking for the first time explaining them that I won't ever meet them and that it happened before and I ended up chatting for more than a year with the previous guy.. and they are like "hahahahaha he must be a loser not having other options, I'never chatted more than a week with a girl I met online and I would never do it, it's not normal" and considering they have Venus in Capricorn with tight Saturn conjuction plus heavy Scorpio it's normal that they aren't attracted to this thing.. but in a magic way they end up doing exactly what they thought they would do.. (having an internet relationship)

Anyway I won't talk about my 8th H. I feel like I am not helping you at all since you don't have similar placements/aspects. I don't wanna end up overwelming you.

*The Venus-Neptune trine is a soft aspect that is considered healthy and positive for the native, it's not heavy enough to justify this pattern

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Do you mind if I ask you about your sexual needs? Do you wish to met them and get physical w/t?

posted August 29, 2018 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
No Flirt but I'm just Good with people or atleast try.

Venus and Moon Conjunction in Gemini.
Both Opposite Neptune.

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posted August 29, 2018 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by pocketrocket:
Both of them in mercury sign. At least, you don't lack of small talking

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Small talks ? 😂
Is it bad for health ? 😉

posted September 02, 2018 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Bump!

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Can't reply to this thread for some reason when I paste my original reply. It's the first time smth like this happens to me in here.

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Originally posted by pocketrocket:

The initial of most of my emotional relations usually starts in that way. So, maybe I need some kind of saving, but surely others cannot do that instead of me

Actually, I do have that thing in myself, but it's often more platonic and friendly. There is a man I am turned on sooo hard and we're hanging as friends from time to time, has issues, I am there to help him on every way I can, but don't involve my sexual intentions like some men do to me

Are those "saviors" ppl who also "need to be saved", so this is some kind of PROJECTION? The last guy, had also NEP conjunct with his asc and quite strongly aspected..

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Do you feel that love/relationship will save you in some way?
That platonic, pure love and the thing that you want to help are related to Neptune.

Are you interested in that guy sexually or is it just pure platonic love?

The saviors you are mentioning may want to be saved or may want to save someone. I am not sure if deep inside they want to save others because they would like to be saved like that too.
I din't like to save people because I don't believe in saving people, no one changes unless he/she wants to as you correctly said.

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Originally posted by pocketrocket:
You are used to very dense energy. That Pluto, Saturn thing Quite interesting energy to deal with, and not naive at all
Creepy thing you said - related to pluto vibe!
I have Ve in 8th sextile Pl, so, that combo can be so magnetic if it's (and usually is) activated by others.

hahaah You have such a interesting story!!! Crazy Uranus!
I find that kind of bonding is beautiful and pure, but also like 1 on 1.

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I agree with you, I find this bonding the most interesting and most reliable of all. You really get to know someone since it is more comfortable chating via internet at first, plus the fact that the other person keeps on wanting to communicate with you and develops feelings without getting sex or smth else is the best proof of all.
Many think that this platonic-mental love is not realistic but to me it is because bonding with eyes and then body leads to disappointment most of the time. So a couple of dates and then sex is the least realistic to me because communication is the key since everything is in our mind. Even when it comes to astrology Mercury is the least erotic planet, I've seen beaitiful synastries with difficult Mercury aspects that didn't last at all because communication is the key.

You having Venus in 8th definately gives it a Plutonian vibe to your Venus.

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Originally posted by pocketrocket:

Do you mind if I ask you about your sexual needs? Do you wish to met them and get physical w/t?

I've opened this thread to see if you can relate with some patterns. We met different ppl, but something most of them in common. And I appreciate your input!

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I don't mind at all I just think it will be a little boring but here it goes..

I got turned on by a guy for the first time at 18 which is weird because I started getting horny to the point that I was aware of it happening often at the age of 8 (of course I didn't understabd why it was happening and what it was called untill I hit 16)

14-21 yo I was super horny like 24/7

At 21yo I lost this apettite probably due to many problems.

I wanted a relationship so bad it felt like it was the point of my whole life. I fell in love for the first time at 13 (I know.. but it was pretty intense and painful especially for a kid, plus it lasted a good 4 years) still though I didn't felt ready for a relationship until I hit 16.

I thought it would occur naturally at some point at the same time a voice inside me was telling me that I won't ever get into a relationship. At 18 I fell in love with the next one which was the most intense and first internet relationship plus I saw him live. At that point I realised that smth was off, I had that urge to run away, which all these years I thought that it occured because I was shy. At 21 I fully understood that I am just not cut for intimate relationships, the urge to run away was because I felt pressured maybe by my intense feelings. I had good chances, patient guys that I liked and I fell for some but I just chose to run away.

It was at that point that I woke up fr the dream. Relationships felt like a burden, I realised the practical day to day life of a relationship, how I would have to cook and clean and work for 2 people, how I wouldn't have free time for myself in and out of home and how all these intense feelings would turn into boredom & pressure plus I fell in love and I got over it after a few years more than once so I could definately stand the pain.

I never wanted to get married not even as a kid let alone have children 😨 but tbh I would like to have experienced sex. I would like to try it and see how it is. Now there is one more problem when it comes to sex. Even though I feel in love 3 times and I liked some men too much whenever I fell in love I didn't want sex with that person, my love felt so pure and platonic,sex felt like an offence to my feelings. I remember that one of them told me once than he wanted to kiss my neck and I got so hurt and didn't talk to him.

Ont the other hand when I was sexually attracted to someone (sexting with two different men) I wanted them to treat me like a sex tool and nothing more. I wasn't interested in having conversations with them or getting to know them I didn't even care to say hi I wanted just to sex chat and then bye.

So love and sex were
two completely different things for me. (I like kinky passionate sex, I'm not romantic)

About a year ago (Transit Pluto conjuct North Node in 7th H) I fell for someone that I won't ever be with for many reasons but it is the first time in my life that I feel both in love and wanting to be intimate with the same person. I am shocked that I want both sex and love. I would run away from him even if I had the chance as I always do but honestly feeling like this is a miracle. He is the first one whose planets fall in my 5th, 7th and 8th H. The previous ones had their planets in my 5th and 7th H only.

I have Pluto (5th H Scorpio) square Venus, Mars and Jup in 2n H Leo.

Neptune and Uranus conjuct DSC
plus Lilith, Juno and North Node in 7th H Capricorn.

8th H in Aqua with Saturn on the cusp.
Saturn definately blocks, brings obstacles or even prevents the native from doing smth by itself add Uranus and Neptune who love in a platonic way and there you have it.

I never wanted marriage let alone children but I would like to have experienced sex at the right age (for me) now not only I feel too old for that stuff but even liking someone makes me feel exhausted, my intensity is smth that I can't stand at all anymore.

posted September 05, 2018 06:24 PM            

Will add reply in short..

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Do you feel that love/relationship will save you in some way?
That platonic, pure love and the thing that you want to help are related to Neptune.

Are you interested in that guy sexually or is it just pure platonic love?

The saviors you are mentioning may want to be saved or may want to save someone. I am not sure if deep inside they want to save others because they would like to be saved like that too.
I din't like to save people because I don't believe in saving people, no one changes unless he/she wants to as you correctly said.

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I find this bonding the most interesting and most reliable of all. You really get to know someone since it is more comfortable chating via internet at first, plus the fact that the other person keeps on wanting to communicate with you and develops feelings without getting sex or smth else is the best proof of all.
Many think that this platonic-mental love is not realistic but to me it is because bonding with eyes and then body leads to disappointment most of the time. So a couple of dates and then sex is the least realistic to me because communication is the key since everything is in our mind. Even when it comes to astrology Mercury is the least erotic planet, I've seen beaitiful synastries with difficult Mercury aspects that didn't last at all because communication is the key.

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posted September 06, 2018 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by pocketrocket:
I'm quite single for a while..more single than in a relationship, but when you put that in that way, regarding Neptune, I do like being in one, even platonic. I like those the most, they are pure and nothing bad turns out. Like safe zone. Feelings about that guy are interlaced..sometimes attraction is just platonic, sometimes sexual. I find it quite normal, get used to that kind of energy, as long as it's not harming me.

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Hmmm, platonic relationship are my favorites too, but in my case is always mutual so flirt and "relationship" comes naturally.
I wouldn't be able to be in love with someone silently (I never was interested in someone who wasn't and I think I would lose interest quickly).
I hope it really doesn't harm you, but I don't understand your feelings for that guy are sometimes purr and sometimes sexual. I meam hhen I want someone sexually I am ways interested sexually and when I love him in platonic way I will always do and of I want him both ways I will always (I mean as long as it lasts) want him both ways
What you described me feels like sometimes you feel one way (platonic love) sometime you feel sexual attraction.

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I can totally relate with this. Beauty and appearance are not lasting, they are quite effective, but mind is truly aphrodisiac.
I will go like printer, by order, maybe later i will see your response regarding this.. I'm wondering what other your aspects may lead to this communication imperative and talks on a long run. Would you mind post your chart?

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Do you happen to have major Uranus aspects/placements or Aqua personal planets?
I am asking because Uranus is very attracted to the mind (wants mental stimulation and needs someone who uses his brain).

I think it's Uranus in my case

Below is my chart

posted September 10, 2018 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

I don't relate to my Mars at all. Mars and Venus in Leo are square Pluto though and to that I relate completely. Aspects are stronger than planets in signs too (unless the planet is unaspected).

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^ I agree.
However, with the outer planets, even the "easy" aspects can be troublesome. Coz you have an easy integration of the principles. You can be into saving the "Neptunian" types and see nothin wrong with it. If it's a hard aspect, you *know* you have a problem.

pocketrocket, love your name!
And yeah, what you describe smacks of Neptune / Pisces on the angles..