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Topic: Is it me or are fire signs by far the neediest?
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Lalafortunaea Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted August 30, 2018 04:37 PM
Does anyone else notice this or feel this way? Heavy fire concentration, fire houses, stelliums in a fire sign - they come off so needyYa'd think it'd be water, but nupe
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Lalafortunaea Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted August 30, 2018 04:45 PM
And for the record I've got a bit of fire meself IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11486 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 30, 2018 06:03 PM
It's you. I can be needy at times, but everyone can. IP: Logged |
Lalafortunaea Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted August 30, 2018 06:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: It's you. I can be needy at times, but everyone can.
**sigh** alas, alone yet again. The only one of my kind.
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Melinn Knowflake Posts: 758 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted August 30, 2018 06:23 PM
Well they can be all "Me me me!", I can only talk for aries energy and leo energy, and I will write just a short notice.Aries is like "I have to express my feelings, even if its not suitable now, or others get hurt" etc. They feel something, they express it immidiately. Can come off as "genuine" or "childish, needy, inconciderat and selfish"... well childish in a nutshell. Leo is like "see me, appreciate me, praise me, flatter me!". And I'm over simplifying it. We all have this leo traits in us of course! Maybe more that leo prone people seek this out more sincerely and openly (if saturn is not involved). I have aries stellium and sagg stellium amd a strong mars after pluto. So yeah lots of fire. If the other person does not have much fire, it can feel very overwhelming and like the aries/leo person is dominating and wants to overpower. thats one way of needy atleast imo. Have to go to sleep now, so this was what I thought quickly on top of my head.. IP: Logged |
Lerena Knowflake Posts: 1113 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted August 30, 2018 06:30 PM
What are you talking about? Sagittarius is one of the least needy signs I have ever encountered (the other is Aquarius). Aries and Leo though. I can't defend those, but of course, it depends on the person how Aries and Leo placements manifest.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11486 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 30, 2018 07:10 PM
Most of the time, I try to be careful about what I say. I don't deliberately say something hurtful, and expect people to take it. I can be needy with certain people. If I feel it with everyone, then I back off. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10026 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 30, 2018 08:18 PM
Its a leo thing we need attention from our lovers and significant other, perhaps that is my venus in leo talking, if we don't get attention we think they don't care and have lost interest. I hate the word needy, its more that we are high maintenance but then bc uranus conjuncts my chart ruler jupiter if you give me too much attention I will feel suffocated. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3536 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 30, 2018 09:05 PM
Fire warms, consumes, or transforms, depending on how and where it burns.------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10026 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 30, 2018 09:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Fire warms, consumes, or transforms, depending on how and where it burns.
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Radium Knowflake Posts: 497 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted August 30, 2018 09:38 PM
Every sign is needy in there own wayAries - Needs adrenaline, impulsivness, action Taurus - Needs materials, physical security, money Gemini - Nerds. Need information on everything, mentally active, busy bodies, communication Cancer - Needs strong emotional bonds, family Leo - Need attention, recognition, fun (in whatever they do) or they will go crazy Virgo - Needs organization, planning. A job, needs to be of service, thrive to be consistent and practical. Take away their logic and they flip Libra - Relationships, status, vanity, like to compromise. Need social activities. Scorpio - Need depth, truth and wants to dig deep. They are detectives. They are animals. They care about trust the most. Don't like to be around weak people (if they are following their sun sign) Sag - Adventure. Adventure. Adventure. Need philisophy. Need to know the meaning behind things rather than the truth behind it (which is Scorpio's department) Need some type of religion or motto. NEED freedom. Cap - Need respect on a material level. Like to be dependable. Need responsibility, work, SUCCESS. Don't want to be a bum, don't like being lazy. Need a goal. Need ambition. Don't tolerate fakeness. Aqua - Need rebellion. Need distance. Need anarchy. They don't like authority, want to do what they want. Thrive off of ingenuity and innovation. Very accepting and need to be around open minded individuals. Pisces (Me) - In a way we need to suffer. We need a reason to live. Pisces is the last sign of the zodiac. We've seen it all. We need people who are understanding of our crazy, emotion and spirituality. We love being helpful. Need space to be creative. Need alone time to get our thoughts right. Don't like people who judge. IP: Logged |
Lerena Knowflake Posts: 1113 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted August 30, 2018 09:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Its a leo thing we need attention from our lovers and significant other, perhaps that is my venus in leo talking, if we don't get attention we think they don't care and have lost interest. I hate the word needy, its more that we are high maintenance but then bc uranus conjuncts my chart ruler jupiter if you give me too much attention I will feel suffocated.
I hate the word "needy" too. I'm a time-consuming investment, but that doesn't mean I'm "needy." In my experience, Venus in Leos are high maintenance. Honestly, I am too though, so I don't judge.IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 630 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted August 30, 2018 10:17 PM
I don't know. I think the air signs are the ones who are the neediest but seem the least expecting. As you said, you would think it is the water signs, but air signs can be far more selfish from what I've seen.IP: Logged |
StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted August 30, 2018 10:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Radium: Every sign is needy in there own wayAries - Needs adrenaline, impulsivness, action Taurus - Needs materials, physical security, money Gemini - Nerds. Need information on everything, mentally active, busy bodies, communication Cancer - Needs strong emotional bonds, family Leo - Need attention, recognition, fun (in whatever they do) or they will go crazy Virgo - Needs organization, planning. A job, needs to be of service, thrive to be consistent and practical. Take away their logic and they flip Libra - Relationships, status, vanity, like to compromise. Need social activities. Scorpio - Need depth, truth and wants to dig deep. They are detectives. They are animals. They care about trust the most. Don't like to be around weak people (if they are following their sun sign) Sag - Adventure. Adventure. Adventure. Need philisophy. Need to know the meaning behind things rather than the truth behind it (which is Scorpio's department) Need some type of religion or motto. NEED freedom. Cap - Need respect on a material level. Like to be dependable. Need responsibility, work, SUCCESS. Don't want to be a bum, don't like being lazy. Need a goal. Need ambition. Don't tolerate fakeness. Aqua - Need rebellion. Need distance. Need anarchy. They don't like authority, want to do what they want. Thrive off of ingenuity and innovation. Very accepting and need to be around open minded individuals. Pisces (Me) - In a way we need to suffer. We need a reason to live. Pisces is the last sign of the zodiac. We've seen it all. We need people who are understanding of our crazy, emotion and spirituality. We love being helpful. Need space to be creative. Need alone time to get our thoughts right. Don't like people who judge.
Great assessment! I completely agree- My Sun, My ASC, My Moon, and My Venus and Mars signs all identified completely here. So I am all water and earth... and I am feeling pretty needy myself right now! LOL! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10026 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 30, 2018 10:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lerena: [QUOTE]Originally posted by hypatia238: [b]Its a leo thing we need attention from our lovers and significant other, perhaps that is my venus in leo talking, if we don't get attention we think they don't care and have lost interest. I hate the word needy, its more that we are high maintenance but then bc uranus conjuncts my chart ruler jupiter if you give me too much attention I will feel suffocated.
I hate the word "needy" too. I'm a time-consuming investment, but that doesn't mean I'm "needy." In my experience, Venus in Leos are high maintenance. Honestly, I am too though, so I don't judge.[/B][/QUOTE] Time consuming investment! I like it, but you and I are soooo worth it girl! High Five!! IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5972 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 30, 2018 10:40 PM
Leo can be SUPER demanding. Some would even say "needy". As your life when dating them, may start to revolve around them.The more insecure they feel, the more demanding they get. Aries can start off wanting all your attention at the start. But because they also grow restless and easily bored, they don't expect you to keep it on them and may loosen the stronghold as the relationship progresses. Sag ime does not " want" for personal attention at all. But does like an audience outside the relationship. So perhaps it is there that they are more "demanding"? They are usually lukewarm to semi passionate in love relationships but have more external passions than all consuming coupling. Cancer matches Leo in being demanding and needy. With Libra also wedged in there. Out of the earth signs,Taurus is more possessive than demanding, A Virgo more exacting than needy. So the winner is Cap whom can be very bossy and demanding. IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly Knowflake Posts: 2136 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted August 30, 2018 11:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Its a leo thing we need attention from our lovers and significant other, perhaps that is my venus in leo talking, if we don't get attention we think they don't care and have lost interest. I hate the word needy, its more that we are high maintenance but then bc uranus conjuncts my chart ruler jupiter if you give me too much attention I will feel suffocated.
My progressed venus is in Leo and it is soooo true!!! lol lol lol I can't stand to be pushed to the side when it comes to the person I am with. I still have my venus in Gemini swag but I can tell the effect of it being progressed into leo. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10026 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 30, 2018 11:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by colorful butterfly: My progressed venus is in Leo and it is soooo true!!! lol lol lol I can't stand to be pushed to the side when it comes to the person I am with. I still have my venus in Gemini swag but I can tell the effect of it being progressed into leo.
Lol Exactly!!!!! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10026 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 30, 2018 11:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by colorful butterfly: My progressed venus is in Leo and it is soooo true!!! lol lol lol I can't stand to be pushed to the side when it comes to the person I am with. I still have my venus in Gemini swag but I can tell the effect of it being progressed into leo.
Lol Exactly!!!!! IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 758 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted August 31, 2018 05:32 AM
As said we ALL have Leo somewhere in our chart, with placemenst or not, the house is still there. Also all human beings need attention! The way we go about it and in what manner etc differs, but alas attention we need! I know I have slide slightly to keyword "attention" from "needyness" but they are the same imo. I'm currently very into Leo Sun and their easily hurt "pride" or ego. A new layer I try to understand haha. My friend aka "former crush" has sun in Leo. But its square his saturn therefore, it took me a looong time to understand, he really craves attention and praise and he likes being "needed". But also, he "gives back" the same amount, even more! They like shining their "light" on those who shines on them! They are so generous. Something my venus-jupiter really raletes to. Not as generous as I am though haha, again Jupiter- venus, much more generous lol IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 6804 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted August 31, 2018 09:44 PM
In my opinion this issue (and unfortunately it really is a big *issue* in many relationships and friendships) depends on other psychological and developmental factors.You could meet two people born on the same day, even twins - who are quite different in terms of how emotionally needy they are. It's strange and interesting. This is just what I've noticed and also read about... extensively... more than I wish I ever had! lol #ThankYouPiscesMercury :\ IP: Logged |
missblyss Knowflake Posts: 2313 From: Registered: May 2016
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posted September 01, 2018 01:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lalafortunaea: Does anyone else notice this or feel this way? Heavy fire concentration, fire houses, stelliums in a fire sign - they come off so needyYa'd think it'd be water, but nupe
was literally just having this revelation... like fire signs are fiery because they are innately sensitive. they must act quickly to avoid feeling deeper because their sensitivy is so all encompassing. water signs are know for being sensitive, but they are actually stronger which allows them to indulge and really feel into their emotions. it actually takes much strength to feel. IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 758 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted September 01, 2018 01:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by missblyss: was literally just having this revelation...like fire signs are fiery because they are innately sensitive. they must act quickly to avoid feeling deeper because their sensitivy is so all encompassing. water signs are know for being sensitive, but they are actually stronger which allows them to indulge and really feel into their emotions. it actually takes much strength to feel.
Auch, now you basically called fire signs for weak! No not good
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Lalafortunaea Knowflake Posts: 747 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted September 01, 2018 07:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: I don't know. I think the air signs are the ones who are the neediest but seem the least expecting. As you said, you would think it is the water signs, but air signs can be far more selfish from what I've seen.
I see what you mean, and I tend to agree, about air signs being up there. I think that water and earth are the least needy. I also tend to wonder if it might be an extroverted thing, since fire and air are considered as such. Which also brings me to think about how western society idealizes and encourages extroversion, and in general discourages introversion. Introverts are probably a minority, even even if there are those who'd naturally be more introverted, they might tend to ignore that part of themselves due to cultural conditioning. With that, it would make more sense why some might not see such extremes with say, fire, or even air, being quite needy, because we cannot really see what we are really 'involved in' (extroverted culture). So, I think most might not be able to see this about themselves or others, or accept it. quote: Originally posted by missblyss: was literally just having this revelation...like fire signs are fiery because they are innately sensitive. they must act quickly to avoid feeling deeper because their sensitivy is so all encompassing. water signs are know for being sensitive, but they are actually stronger which allows them to indulge and really feel into their emotions. it actually takes much strength to feel.
Yes, this is very much in line with what I have noticed. And their quick acting sensitivity can even be seen in this thread! I do feel it in myself, but I try to distance myself from it so as to see clearly and not be engulfed. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11486 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 02, 2018 05:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: In my opinion this issue (and unfortunately it really is a big *issue* in many relationships and friendships) depends on other psychological and developmental factors.You could meet two people born on the same day, even twins - who are quite different in terms of how emotionally needy they are. It's strange and interesting. This is just what I've noticed and also read about... extensively... more than I wish I ever had! lol #ThankYouPiscesMercury :\
Yep. I'm only needy in certain ways - or insecure - for specific reasons. IP: Logged |