posted September 05, 2018 02:02 PM            

I am not a Christian. But I do recall this verse being said in church somewhere in my childhood.

I also have progressed Venus conjunct natal Jupiter and I can't help thinking that with the current trans Jupiter on my natal Venus, that this could be the aspect this verse was alluding to?

For those of you who have it natally,how does it play out?

Does it make one overly(Jupiter) sweet(Venus)? Perhaps increase (Jupiter) ones attractiveness and dating pool(Venus) ?

I recall my ex has the opposition of Venus-Jupiter. But Pluto and Saturn are also in the mix which sort of murk the whole thing up a little. Lol

But I wanted to find out more about it because I have the Venus-Saturn conjunct. And this transit of Jupiter on both has not had clear discernible effects on me.

I have NOT found love lol(Venus rules the 7th). Am more sceptical than ever actually. And am not more sociable.

My money situation(Venus rules the 2nd house) has not improved. So am seriously doubting the hype around it.

posted September 05, 2018 04:08 PM            

I have it natally, the conjunction and this is one of my favourite aspects in my chart.

I can't talk for all venus-jupiters, because I have found, it plays out differently, as it often does, because of the: house, other aspects to venus and jupiter, and yeah the whole chart.

Thise to are my favs, because imo I have not seen the too bad sides of this aspect yet, and I think its because the bad sides are being "harnessed" thanks to other planets helping them out some.

But yeah I may have a blindspot to thise two, who knows?

They are in my 8th in Aries also conjunct n.node.

So its Venus-N.node and Jupiter.
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One disclaimer, I hope I won't sound like I'm "boasting" about myself but anyways.

It gives me a lot of charm, when I choose to use it. Being in aries I guess, makes me very playfull. Having too much Pluto and Saturn-Moon could have made me too harsh

I guess but thanks to thise two (and gemini-sagg stellium), there is lots of playfulness in me.
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I have an easy time catching both males and females attention with my: Warmth, playfulness, forwardness, being funny, also a bit of charisma etc.
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One other thing, but also this is als due to neptune square them both: Very generous towards people I love or like.

This is also something "cultural" and something I grew up with. I like showing affection through giving my friends, gifts, small or big, or useful stuff. Food! Or chocolate. Jewelry etc.

If I like you, I will show you that by "joking around" being very warm towards you and the final strike, give you something.

I get excitet just by the thought of buying a gift to a loved one!

But Saturn trining venus-jup, if I feel one takes advantage of my giving nature, I will walk out, or stop giving, I'm not naive!

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There is an importantly bad side to this though, its crusial to know about it. But I'm not comfy writing it openly at the forum

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Also I like foreigners. I find people with different ethnicities exciting and attractive.

posted September 05, 2018 04:12 PM            

No sadly not lots of romances or suitors. I have been single my whole life. Had all consuming "crushes" thats all (5th house capricorn).

BUT I met my latest crush when transit venus was conjunct thhise two and opposite transit Jupiter in libra!
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I would maybe been "overindulgent" in food or too lazy. Thanfully my virgo asc and mars-saturn-moon etc takes care of it, I'm a health freak and train and eat healthy. Chocolate is my only weakness, but I'm very fit and health oriented.
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posted September 05, 2018 05:03 PM            

- Unlimited opportunities for relationships: These people will have many suitors but usually the relationship does not last or are unstable, maybe a venus in Scorpio excels in this situation.

- The couples of these natives end up adapting to you and tolerating all their whims and indulgences (even though the relationship is at risk of not lasting)

- Freedom: The natives of this aspect demand freedom in the relationship .. at first they can act in love / obsessed (they really are) but over time if the relationship lacks freedom or is suffocating the native will not delay in demanding it.

-Misaligned: I have noticed that people with these aspects are generally misaligned with aesthetics, that is to say first quality clothes but nevertheless we can notice that in the details of hygiene or personal care they are indulgent, example, careless hair or dirty clothes etc.

- The couple of this person are generally beautiful and are often popular people (they do not need to be famous, but popular in what they do)

- Every so often without looking for it, people appear offering business ideas and sometimes even obtain resources without real efforts.

- Travel abroad through other people: Foreign travel opportunities appear through another person. As the business partners that appear without looking for it, the same happens here .. in measures we relate to people who invite us or pay for trips.

- Sometimes personal achievements are presented in such easy or unexpected ways that the native does not value or believe it.

- Luxuries, although the native lacks money eventually this surrounded by luxuries can be personal or through their friendships.

- Too much pride in relationships, it can be said that it is extreme (in my case in jupiter in Leo it is double)

- Interest / skill for Art but laziness to develop the same skills.

I have a similar situation.

Jupiter transits my house scorpio stellium (including venus)

A professional astrologer replied that it is very difficult for me to get a partner or establish a serious relationship because my Saturn is transiting my H12 (saturn, uranus, neptune) and until Saturn does not pass my ASC does not see it feasible to develop a relationship.

Maybe you're having another transit that blocks jupiter.

sorry for my english.

posted September 05, 2018 05:37 PM            

Thank you for the input. It certainly helped clarify some things.

I have always seen Venus as "ease" or the ability to accept and appreciate what is.

Indeed to do so would decrease stress levels and allow more goodness and calm to flow to you because you are not bucking up the current and going for the path of least resistance.

So I would guess that Jupiter expands and exaggerates. This could mean someone who wants to let the good times roll. With no holds barred I guess.

And I do see it as increasing ones self esteem or the ability to bounce back from setbacks and take it all in ones stride.

My ex is concerned about his weight now. I think its the Saturn/Venus opp effect that has him feel like he is being judged for not maintaining the "hunk" standard. Lol.

But it comes and goes because as I said, he also has Jupiter-Venus opp. So he wants good times but can feel guilty and obsessively so when he feels he has gone overboard(Pluto).

Saturn is ever the stern taskmaster though. I see it in your chart working the same way as it does in mine.

I love chocolate. Love it. And sometimes I buy chocolate cake and just go wild!.

But Venus-Saturn certainly guilts me out of ever gaining weight. It minimises the good feelings that come with indulging and leaves me feeling guilty.

Its okay though. I have learned to deal... Everything in moderation I guess.

posted September 05, 2018 05:49 PM            

I don't think the effects of Jupiter are blocked completely lol. I have been feeling and craving sweet things lately.

Now your Venus squares Jupiter heh.. interesting. I read somewhere that this aspect can mean wasted opportunities or taking things too much for granted .

My sister has Venus/Jupiter conjunct in Aries. And I think she is popular with people. They are quick to warm up to her and like her.

And she does get lots of offers for dates. But she complains that it is usually more "quantity" than quality (side effect of Jupiter)

So far in love, she has been unlucky. Not able to attract people she wants but getting the attention of those people that she does not want. Sigh.

Besides an increase in appetite, I don't feel my confidence has grown that much. I am still the same earthy individual I have always been and not attracting business partners or suitors lol.

The only issue I have is the whole bloated effect I have noticed.

Since my love of things delicious(Venus) has expanded (Jupiter), I often feel like I can't get enough. Its ridiculous.

I know when all this is over, the "purging" will start (Saturn). Just enjoying the up before things get back to normal on the appetite front.

Trans Saturn is conjunct my Sun now and parallel the Mc. Some restrictions are imminent and I guess that's why I don't feel the "whole" Jupiter transit on my Venus

posted September 05, 2018 10:07 PM            

Venus and Jupiter

May your Cup overflow with Love,
and Flow with increasingly more-refined sense of what Love is, inside you.

Whether or not you have anyone to date,
whether you have money or not-so-much right now?

Allow these planet energies to cultivate a 'Sense of Abundance' within you!

Even if it's "only" in your Imagination,
or in a meditation for a while...

Wrap yourself around the 'sense-experience' of it, without words.

With open Heart, Hold that space.

(music) My Cup Runneth over with Love (Ed Ames, lyrics) [2:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2_VrjwctA

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Aries23..{{ }}
Psalm 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever.

posted September 06, 2018 03:33 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:

Aries23..{{ }}
Psalm 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever.

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Yes that is where it comes from. Thanks for that.lol

And you are right about the sugar levels. As both Venus and Jupiter are into all things sweet or rich and decadent.

Awesome videos. Much love

@hypatia

What is a "sentagon"?

posted September 06, 2018 09:11 AM            

Do you possibly have moon in aspect to Mercury/Mars or in Gem/Aries?

The result is often boredom. I have the above aspects add to that Moon in 3rd. I just get bored. Really bored.

Saturn squares Jupiter in your chart too. So I wonder if the swinging between being miserly(Saturn) and being lavish(Jupiter) is a part of that?

The fact that it(Sat) aspects the fun loving planets Ven and Jup would def add a certain amount of discipline to any kind of "fun"

Like many Cap people, this Saturn influence on your chart could have you enjoy(Venus) or be more confident (Jupiter) when applying discipline or doing something strenuous/hard(Sat)

That sense of accomplishment may make you feel good. But the square would suggest that many times you may feel its not enough. So you remain self pressured to accomplish more or go further. All in an attempt to feel better etc.

Somebody mentioned gym as a way for them to feel attractive. And this aspect definitely alludes to that.

My friend has the Jupiter/Saturn conj without Venus involved. And though he is no gym freak, he swings between thrift and extravagance.

It takes a lot to have him feel excited or optimistic. As most times he is extremely cynical and doubting.

posted September 06, 2018 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
High standards maybe with that Venus/Saturn conjunct?

Do you possibly have moon in aspect to Mercury/Mars or in Gem/Aries?

The result is often boredom. I have the above aspects add to that Moon in 3rd. I just get bored. Really bored.

Saturn squares Jupiter in your chart too. So I wonder if the swinging between being miserly(Saturn) and being lavish(Jupiter) is a part of that?

The fact that it(Sat) aspects the fun loving planets Ven and Jup would def add a certain amount of discipline to any kind of "fun"

Like many Cap people, this Saturn influence on your chart could have you enjoy(Venus) or be more confident (Jupiter) when applying discipline or doing something strenuous/hard(Sat)

That sense of accomplishment may make you feel good. But the square would suggest that many times you may feel its not enough. So you remain self pressured to accomplish more or go further. All in an attempt to feel better etc.

Somebody mentioned gym as a way for them to feel attractive. And this aspect definitely alludes to that.

My friend has the Jupiter/Saturn conj without Venus involved. And though he is no gym freak, he swings between thrift and extravagance.

It takes a lot to have him feel excited or optimistic. As most times he is extremely cynical and doubting.

But he is ambitious and has achieved a lot. Being very generous (Jupiter) many times with rewards from his achievements (Sat)

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posted September 06, 2018 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

@hypatia

What is a "sentagon"?

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Its a 100 degree aspect, also called Centile ...

Its used a lot in predictive astrology..

If you move forward in this video to 7:44 minutes it talks about it for a little bit.

"Its acts suddenly and unpredictably and tends to have long term effects"

posted September 06, 2018 12:18 PM            

The Cap Moon makes sense. And adds to what I said there.

Cap Moon enjoys accomplishments. Taurus enjoys money. And the former tends to attach worth to accomplishments whilst the latter attaches worth to having "stuff".

posted September 06, 2018 12:51 PM            

I stated on another thread of my apprehension with dating "across the line". But the interesting thing is that it has been on my mind more now than ever before(Venus-Jupiter)

I also watched "Pride and Prejudice" all of a minimum of 20 times. And I think the movie is about Venus/Jupiter i.e. about how love (Venus) can have us break restrictions and expand our world(Jupiter)

In that Darcy falls for Lizzie and
overlooks many impediments & disregards social approval and class distinctions to be with her.

And Jupiter can certainly gamble a lot. And with Venus therein. The gamble is all for love.

I feel like the above movie could easily be one about intercultural/interracial or cross religious love. As the challenges or themes are similar.

posted September 06, 2018 04:28 PM            

Since this trine can happen in the background, you may not realize what you're doing is going to lead to consequences later. I've been toning down the excess in recent years to avoid the consequences of being overly indulgent in any way.

My Venus-Jupiter aspect is the only aspect I have between Venus and another planet. Besides this aspect, the factors for continued financial stability are present, but I think in general, I've never considered it wise to want anything from Jupiter's influence. To get the results you want, there must be an active effort to get it and I prefer the influence of Saturn. Saturn doesn't give you luck. Luck is random so you can't depend on it all the time and I've grown up feeling more at ease when I know that my success has been properly earned through practice and hard work. I like knowing what made me succeed so I can maintain my success in the future and continue to improve.

Although I have Venus trine Jupiter, the rest of my chart tends to compensate for some of the downsides of this trine. From the outside, people may think everything has been handed to me on a silver platter, but this is not true. On the contrary, my life has been incredibly difficult. I had to work my butt off to get to the point I'm at today and I have to continue working my butt off if I want to keep the benefits I have from this trine.

posted September 09, 2018 04:55 AM            

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@Melinn

Thank you for the input. It certainly helped clarify some things.

I have always seen Venus as "ease" or the ability to accept and appreciate what is.

Indeed to do so would decrease stress levels and allow more goodness and calm to flow to you because you are not bucking up the current and going for the path of least resistance.

So I would guess that Jupiter expands and exaggerates. This could mean someone who wants to let the good times roll. With no holds barred I guess.

And I do see it as increasing ones self esteem or the ability to bounce back from setbacks and take it all in ones stride.

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Yes that is what in psychology is called "emotionally resillient". This is an interesting subject and something astrology can help us understand. There is certain signs but more importantly "aspects" that can help and support resillience. I have not done much research in this though, yet.

I have never thought of my venus-jupiter conjunction atrubuting to resillience that way, but alas, all aspects etc does work together holistically of course!

I have thought my emotional resllience comes from, for ex ironically Moon oppo saturn. That aspect really makes me go through really hard periods of gries, sadness, near depression etc. But after I'm done I often stand up, brush away the dust and walk on strong.

Also I thought it could be due to my Mars sextile Jupiter. And Mars-saturn.

Although venus-jupiter makes sense aswell, now when you mention it.

Because my resliience comes from, my faith and belief.

As as you mentioned this in an other thread, venus-jupiter in 8th aspecting neptune , "the love of spirituality" and in my case god.

Also being plutonic makes for resillience. Also having a 9th house sun-merc etc etc.. yeah one can really see how spiritual I am by my chart.

Anyways, hmm yes I think venus-jupiter helps me be at ease and accept things. BUT it does not come easily!

posted September 09, 2018 01:01 PM            

Moon-Saturn opp can go through extremes of feeling they can cope(Saturn). And feeling downright sorry for themselves (Moon)

Add the Mars-Saturn aspect. Which doesn't believe that anything worthwhile comes easy. There must be hard,hard work.

Jupiter-Mars sextile(I have this too) is momentum ime. But more so the "inspirational speaker" really.

You start with something(Mars) and then along the way, you find inspiration to keep at it as you find that if you just do it, it gets easier(Jupiter).

It certainly does help to have you keep a smile on your face. When I think of it I think of an annoying perky female spinning instructor who is trying to convince you that giving your all on that uncomfortable bike in gym class(Mars) will bring about positive change in your life(Jupiter). Ugh!

posted September 09, 2018 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

For those of you who have it natally, how does it play out?

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I have Venus, Jupiter, and Mars all dancing together. That might modify my experience of it?

I am very affectionate, even extravagant. I love showering my loved ones with hugs and gifts and all sorts of corny gestures. I would embarrass the crap out of a venus-saturn person like you, lol.

Romantic opportunities - yes, I suppose you could say there are plenty. But does it make that much of a difference? Not really, coz I have a hard time getting close to people. So, I'd rather have one person interested in me that I think I could be intimate with, than a dozen that I'm not interested in.

posted September 09, 2018 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

My sister has Venus/Jupiter conjunct in Aries. And I think she is popular with people. They are quick to warm up to her and like her.

And she does get lots of offers for dates. But she complains that it is usually more "quantity" than quality (side effect of Jupiter)

So far in love, she has been unlucky. Not able to attract people she wants but getting the attention of those people that she does not want. Sigh.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

I know when all this is over, the "purging" will start (Saturn). Just enjoying the up before things get back to normal on the appetite front.

Trans Saturn is conjunct my Sun now and parallel the Mc. Some restrictions are imminent and I guess that's why I don't feel the "whole" Jupiter transit on my Venus

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posted September 09, 2018 02:43 PM            

Your water heavy chart could account for you wanting to focus on one instead of plenty.

Otherwise if Mars/Ven/Moon in 3rd house or Gemini, one can be restless and love "mixing it up".

On your question on trans Ven on natal Jup, I always think that slower moving planet transits are the ones that pack a punch.

So Jupiter trans to Natal Venus IMO will always be stronger than trans Ven on natal Jupiter. Because the former lasts longer.

My sister has Venus in Aries sextile Mars in Gem. So she likes variety and so perhaps her complaints about quantity and no quality are not completely honest. Lol

posted September 09, 2018 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Morrigan:
I have Venus, Jupiter, and Mars all dancing together. That might modify my experience of it?

I am very affectionate, even extravagant. I love showering my loved ones with hugs and gifts and all sorts of corny gestures.

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Aww one more Venus-Jupiter person who loves giving affection and gifts! <3

posted September 09, 2018 02:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
^^your passion could be Venus/Mars conj. Add the Jupiter for flair and theatre. Lol.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Your water heavy chart could account for you wanting to focus on one instead of plenty.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
On your question on trans Ven on natal Jup, I always think that slower moving planet transits are the ones that pack a punch.

So Jupiter trans to Natal Venus IMO will always be stronger than trans Ven on natal Jupiter. Because the former lasts longer.

My sister has Venus in Aries sextile Mars in Gem. So she likes variety and so perhaps her complaints about quantity and no quality are not completely honest. Lol

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