posted September 13, 2018 02:11 PM            

I think Mars is more abrupt and quick to offer a perspective. Feels like a knife that cuts. For sure.

So when Mars sees something they don't agree with, it calls it out. And the world can often respond in the same manner that the momentum started (7th house mirroring effect).

You did state that you are "str8forward". Is this " straightforwardness" hurtful or building? That is the question.

So one can "keep it real" when confronting bullies. Standing firm for the person they (bullies) are victimizing.

But the same "keep it real" can be used to cripple someone whose religious beliefs you do not agree with. Be mindful of that.

Mars is a knife for both males & females. It will always be sharp and so you must be mindful as to how u use it.

I have Mars in 6th conjunct Dsc by 1 degree. And I despise bad service. I get very angry when I get it

Now in the past, I used to flip out. And the response would be quite negative. So a confrontational scene would result.

Now I consciously look toward how I would like things to be and put all my energy there instead of focusing how they are.

So I would politely converse with employees on suggestions on what can be done to change bottleneck situations etc.

I think that when we criticize or "tell it like it is" etc. It rarely helps the situation. What it does is incite defensiveness and more of the negative "what is".

Because essentially when we complain about how things are,we are actually meaning to say " We want things to be BETTTER"

So focusing on how terrible things are and focusing energy there only accomplishes more of the same.

posted September 13, 2018 02:19 PM            

Thank you for sharing this.

posted September 13, 2018 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well... I have had to learn tact. But its still tough in some moments. As one gets older, one learns its much more worthwhile to resist insisting that other people agree with you.

I think Mars is more abrupt and quick to offer a perspective. Feels like a knife that cuts. For sure.

So when Mars sees something they don't agree with, it calls it out. And the world can often respond in the same manner that the momentum started (7th house mirroring effect).

You did state that you are "str8forward". Is this " straightforwardness" hurtful or building? That is the question.

So one can "keep it real" when confronting bullies. Standing firm for the person they (bullies) are victimizing.

But the same "keep it real" can be used to cripple someone whose religious beliefs you do not agree with. Be mindful of that.

Mars is a knife for both males & females. It will always be sharp and so you must be mindful as to how u use it.

I have Mars in 6th conjunct Dsc by 1 degree. And I despise bad service. I get very angry when I get it

Now in the past, I used to flip out. And the response would be quite negative. So a confrontational scene would result.

Now I consciously look toward how I would like things to be and put all my energy there instead of focusing how they are.

So I would politely converse with employees on suggestions on what can be done to change bottleneck situations etc.

I think that when we criticize or "tell it like it is" etc. It rarely helps the situation. What it does is incite defensiveness and more of the negative "what is".

Because essentially when we complain about how things are,we are actually meaning to say " We want things to be BETTTER"

So focusing on how terrible things are and focusing energy there only accomplishes more of the same.

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I have Venus in the 6th conjunct my DSC but my experience is surprisingly similar, albeit not as intense in the Mars sense. I hate poor service and poor quality and will absolutely lose my mind over it. I am usually not the type to get angry very easily but when I do it incites some terrible drama and turmoil between everyone around. When I complain about how things are, I do it because I want people to see the illogicality of it all so they can stand up and do something about it. Do something BETTER. But they don't and so when I do they get defensive and incites more of the same negative behavior I was trying to bring up to them. Never worked at a store job before (I work online) but I feel like if I did I would have a similar situation to. Might be my 8th house stuff, IDK.

I have also had to learn to focus my energies into how I want things to be rather than constantly hoping others will stand up with me and help get things in this world where they need to be. Sometimes, you just can't force someone to your side. They have to come willingly and if they don't want to, you have to suck it up and continue doing your best on your own. No more focusing on how they are, that's what I also learned.

posted September 14, 2018 10:57 AM            

Everyone is so quick to be the armchair critic. Because its just easier I guess.

You know the saying "the one who holds the candle must endear the wax!"?

Well as much as people are enjoying the light that you shine, you also have to bear criticisms from the peanut gallery i.e " Its too bright", "its too feint" or "we can't see on this side" etc.

At the end of it all you just want to say "Everyone f**** get your own candle. Or zip it!" And the response is not that people scurry towards a convenience store. People just keep their pie holes shut and continue to enjoy the light

Its taught me that like the Hen who baked her own bread story, people don't want to do the necessary "designing" into living in a world that works in the way they want.

They just want to be there to critique and "evaluate" AFTER the work is done. And often conveniently want to move in when your idea of the world starts to take shape.

So by complaining and threatening, I realised that I am a part of the annoying peanut gallery.

So instead I have learned to say "Look, I appreciate all that is done here to make this place efficient. And I love it. May I assist you within this area? Because I think my input may be of value to you".

posted September 14, 2018 11:01 AM            

Unless that Venus sign is in Virgo, Aries, Scorpio or Cap?

posted September 14, 2018 01:13 PM            

The thing that I failed to mention is that I feel like I SHOULD just let it out sometimes.

Not so much the shouting. But the energy to go towards what SHOULD be.

I don't do well to sit with intense emotional energy on me. Mars in Libra just wants to clear the air. And to a certain extent,so does the Moon in Cancer.

posted September 19, 2018 04:19 PM            

I usually call the waiter to congratulate them on a job well done. Then I make some suggestions on how there could be minor improvements.

Some restaurants that I visit know my name now. And the waiters will often chat me up even when they are not serving me directly.

I think the minutiae jobs that people take for granted I.e garbage collectors, waiting tables, bar manning, cleaning etc. Are really quite important.

So I praise people who do these jobs well

posted September 20, 2018 12:27 AM            

My partner is a Libra and his Sun is in mutual reception with his chart ruler Venus, he is a social butterfly and very charming but he also makes comments like "I don't like people" yet he loves talking and social interaction specially debating and having intellectual political discussions with others but it seems that mars conjunct DC finds people irritating and even though like all humans they need connection they can go without it for longer bc they do find people irritating.

posted September 20, 2018 05:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. That is true for me too. My sister often says to me that I am courteous at times, even friendly. But I am quick to get annoyed by people.

"You don't like people brother" she says. Lol. It could be Mars conj DSC really. World of contradiction since its Libra and my chart ruler.

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posted September 21, 2018 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
Could the sign can alter the mars energy despite it conjunct dsc.

I don't find myself to get irritated easily unless my buttons pushed numerous time or tells me my point of views are stupid. That's when I will speak up or avoid certain people.

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Well, I would say that we need to consider the ruler.

In my case for instance, Mars rules the 1st house of Aries. So there is likely sensitivity with image to consider.

So when 1st house is in the 6th/7th cusp, I have strong identification (1st)) with those life areas.

So I could get angry(Mars is ruler) when working under someone or managing someone(6th).

As I believe that i should have autonomy and self control over what I do(as employee) & ironically also, autonomy over others(if employer)

The same is true when someone is overly demanding of me or tells me what to do(7th).I get angry (Mars) because I expect relationships(7th) to reflect me(1st).

In the sense that they(relationships) should give me autonomy over self and over others(control how they come in/out of my life etc)

I can't turn the Libra energy off. In that the charm is always there. Even when I am rude, its usually when the scale is "off". As its not my modus operandi.

But I can get firm when the need arises. And even then,I am good at asserting(in a charming,polished way),my dissatisfaction.

With another Mars in Libra, we often air our dissatisfaction with each other through criticism layered in thick charm.