posted September 13, 2018 02:11 PM            

When something happened between their friends, I notice they are quite similar in some ways. They don't hold back how they feel if something bothers them. They bring up the issue upfront to their friends. Is this where Leo moon speak from the heart? I heard Leo rules the heart.

The thing is their friends are not reciprocating back and think it isn't a big deal to bring up the issue. The leo moon friends want to fix it even though the other party feel nothing really happened between the two.

posted September 13, 2018 02:26 PM            

Do they have Moon in 3rd/1st or Moon/Mercury or Moon/Mars in aspect?

The Leo Moon I know does not speak from the heart. He absolutely avoids "hearfelt" discussions.

I do know however that Leo & Aries tend to love from the heart(with Leo being more consistent).

I think Leo Moon is more prone to "heartache" though due to their "open heart" approach to love and relationships.

Generous to a fault. Definitely.

posted September 13, 2018 02:49 PM            

Gervese Peterson is a scorpio with moon in leo

They are both adult children constantly joking around...I wouldn't say they speak from the heart though....I think Aries23 is right that your friends have other aspects playing out...

posted September 13, 2018 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
This is interesting, they both have moon trine Neptune.
But their Moon's ruler (sun) conjunct Mercury.

It's like they live with guilt if not expressed. I feel sad because they are good people.

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Huh Sun conjunct mercury could be it, is like they have to express what they are feeling in their heart since sun rules their moon and conjuncts the planet of communication.

posted September 13, 2018 02:58 PM            

I think that is fire quality in general. And having the moon preferably conjunct Mars,

And/or mercury in aspect to mars.

Also Pluto in contact with mercury or being in 3rd house.

I'm aries stellium and Moon conjunct Mars. Mars is my second strongest planet after Pluto. 9th house Sun-mercury.

I always have to speak freely from my heart so to speak. If a friend bothers me or does something that wounds me or upsets me, I won't be able to hold it back. I'm gonna confront the person, either just openly "you did this and that, I felt this and that. Was that your intention".

Or I will try to hold back a bit and down play the feelings, but out they must via communication, sooner or later haha. Otherwise I will feel very restless, irritated, and with time very misunderstood and depressed.

Also, that shows how much I value a friendship. I would never want my frendships to be infected by holding back feelings or opinions.

posted September 13, 2018 03:01 PM            

For fire or aries/marsian moons and alike, yes one has to. In order to feel at ease.

Otherwise negative energies will pent up inside, seeth and also infect me and the relationship.

I luckily have saturn aspecting my mercury. I I will never use rethoric where I "blame" the other. I'm very well aware of how to use communication constructively without making the other person feel like a bad guy (atleast I will try to avoid it!) , and also giving the other person the oppurtunity to explain him/herself without interfearing etc. There is lots of good books about this subject haha.

I have read a few and it has transformed my communication style a lot over the years, but I have a lot of growing to do.
Also, if the other person is a love subject, then everything gets a whole lot complicated!

But then I have Pluto in 3rd oppo mercury. Transforming my communication style, is one of my life themes

In short, no I don't think its a Leo moon matter, alone anyway, also sign is not enough. Planet aspects tells much more.

Fire moon is a good indicator but also look if Mars is in the mix somewhere.
Aries and Sagg. Also aspects to Mercury and Sun. Also Pluto aspects to Mercury-moon or sun or 3rd house.

posted September 13, 2018 03:04 PM            

Mercury opposite Moon ruling the 8th in the 3rd house squaring the nodes.
Mercury in the 9th parallel Pluto in the 10th
Mercury in the 9th Novile Pluto in the 10th
Sag rising
Venus conjunct Mars in Leo
Aries on the IC

posted September 13, 2018 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have:

Mercury opposite Moon ruling the 8th in the 3rd house squaring the nodes.
Mercury in the 9th parallel Pluto in the 10th
Mercury in the 9th Novile Pluto in the 10th
Sag rising
Venus conjunct Mars in Leo
Aries on the IC

I must speak from the heart

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posted September 13, 2018 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
My type of gal! <3 We would be a great dynamic duo!

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posted September 13, 2018 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I know a few Leo moons, and yes, I can say they really DO speak from the heart. They are very HONEST. They're brave, unafraid of facing things, issues, speaking their heart and mind. I admire this about them, and really appreciate their upfront nature and honest behavior, especially since it's hard to get a straight answer from many! Leo moon is so brave they're not afraid to just tell it and feel it!

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posted September 13, 2018 09:47 PM            

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even though the other party feel nothing really happened between the two.

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posted September 14, 2018 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
This is interesting, they both have moon trine Neptune.
But their Moon's ruler (sun) conjunct Mercury.

It's like they live with guilt if not expressed. I feel sad because they are good people.

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Yes. That Sun-Mercury conjunct could be it. Its like they attach their self identity(Sun) with expression(Merc).

There is ego there in those words. No doubt lol. So when you hurt them, they will respond with clarity on "how" you offended them etc.

I find Moon/Nep not likely to be the "share his you feel" type. They often struggle to even understand what it is that THEY (not what others project on them) are feeling. Lol.

Also Neptune tends to make one private and evasive. So here feelings are not openly discusses when Nep-Moon interact.

I think your friends are likely to have respond to their egos being hurt than be that open about their feelings .lol.

Most Moon in Leo people I know are super PROUD. Admitting feelings is like admitting defeat or that you "injured" them.

But Sun-Mercury can definitely give you a piece of their mind(for all the world to see). As chronic thoughts are stuffy and easier to release than feelings that one attaches to and form a part of their inner world.

posted September 14, 2018 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Huh Sun conjunct mercury could be it, is like they have to express what they are feeling in their heart since sun rules their moon and conjuncts the planet of communication.

How tight is their sun conjunct mercury aspect?

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It's a pretty close orb. 0 and 2 degrees.

posted September 14, 2018 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Does the friend have Aquarius Moon?

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posted September 14, 2018 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I know a few Leo moons, and yes, I can say they really DO speak from the heart. They are very HONEST. They're brave, unafraid of facing things, issues, speaking their heart and mind. I admire this about them, and really appreciate their upfront nature and honest behavior, especially since it's hard to get a straight answer from many! Leo moon is so brave they're not afraid to just tell it and feel it!

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posted September 14, 2018 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. That Sun-Mercury conjunct could be it. Its like they attach their self identity(Sun) with expression(Merc).

There is ego there in those words. No doubt lol. So when you hurt them, they will respond with clarity on "how" you offended them etc.

I find Moon/Nep not likely to be the "share his you feel" type. They often struggle to even understand what it is that THEY (not what others project on them) are feeling. Lol.

Also Neptune tends to make one private and evasive. So here feelings are not openly discusses when Nep-Moon interact.

I think your friends are likely to have respond to their egos being hurt than be that open about their feelings .lol.

Most Moon in Leo people I know are super PROUD. Admitting feelings is like admitting defeat or that you "injured" them.

But Sun-Mercury can definitely give you a piece of their mind(for all the world to see). As chronic thoughts are stuffy and easier to release than feelings that one attaches to and form a part of their inner world.

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posted September 15, 2018 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. That Sun-Mercury conjunct could be it. Its like they attach their self identity(Sun) with expression(Merc).

There is ego there in those words. No doubt lol. So when you hurt them, they will respond with clarity on "how" you offended them etc.

I find Moon/Nep not likely to be the "share his you feel" type. They often struggle to even understand what it is that THEY (not what others project on them) are feeling. Lol.

Also Neptune tends to make one private and evasive. So here feelings are not openly discusses when Nep-Moon interact.

I think your friends are likely to have respond to their egos being hurt than be that open about their feelings .lol.

Most Moon in Leo people I know are super PROUD. Admitting feelings is like admitting defeat or that you "injured" them.

But Sun-Mercury can definitely give you a piece of their mind(for all the world to see). As chronic thoughts are stuffy and easier to release than feelings that one attaches to and form a part of their inner world.

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Now now Aries23, you make it sound like Leo moons does not have feelings, only an ego :O ! lol

Interesting insights as always!

The moon-neptune aspect actually has been in my ”to research further” list. Now I have read several threads at this forum especially, people who has this aspect talking about, how they feel about it. Now when i think about it after what you wrote above, how would they be able to really explain how their moon-neptune feels like? haha isin’t that so ironic?

I know some may think gemini moon in opposite Uranus is harsh to have. I digest! I’m so so happy I have an air moon and an aspect (or several?) that helps me with ”understanding” my feelings haha

My two guy friends I interact daily with, have this. Their Aries moons square neptune. That neptune totally destroys their moons whom also asoects their marses!

Also their marses are aspecting neptune. Poor things! It must be really hard as a male to have this? When its generally already. so hard for males to recognise and understand their own feelings? I really feel for them!

No wonder they get along so well, having the same exact vibes when it cones to their moons-marses and neptune!

And its no wonder they are so attached to me and they love discussing things with me. Even when they are so calm, they never irk back bc of my intensity when I’m all riled up and argumentativ about topics close to my heart (thank you Pluto-mercury and mars-moon!) I’m very intense and dynamic, even a bit harsh compred with their ”soft?” energy.

We had a very heated discussing just yesterday! About immigrants and tolerance. One of the guys was so missinformed and did not see the other side of the coin and was simply being ignorant and also naive.

I got sll argumentativ and near upset haha! But I made a good point also I did get a hold on myself after explaining things. And I did say I was agreeing with him on this and that point, I smoothed things out by relating, but I will not back down on my ”opinions”.

They really enjoy it when I get so passionate when talking/arguing lol! My mercury is taurus and trine saturn so I don’t completely fly off the handle! I have structure haha

posted September 15, 2018 01:41 PM            

The aspects to the Moon are the point of focus IMO. Regardless of the Sun's position.

Even the private and careful Virgo Moon can find themselves having to blurt out their feelings when Moon is in aspect to Uranus/Mars or Mercury.

Uranus/Mercury are however likely to be changeable and erratic. Whilst Mars is more passionate.

With regard to your friends,Neptune can dissolve individual feelings and merge with the public seamlessly.

So it could be that one identifies with one's own feelings. But then again,they also can feel the opinion and views of many others. And identify with them too.

Now the discrimination becomes more blurred. Which is the "true" identity when both are valid to the person concerned?

Mars-Nep is IMO, the super hero aspect. In that the individual can be indiscriminate with regards to whom to save(Mars).As the super hero saves both "good" and "bad" alike.

So this means that on some level, the super hero has to be neutral & focus energy on inclusiveness & not personal feelings.

Sometimes however Neptune can be overridden by public or popular opinion. And this is the ignorance you spoke of with regards to the issue of immigration that you were debating.

That is the negative side of Neptune which tends to absorb what others are feeling, thinking and go with popular thoughts of fear or anger. In this way it can also be indiscriminate.

So when you get passionate,they absorb that. But should you get despondent, they will absorb that too.

Some Mars- Neptune natives will have trouble getting clear decisiveness on anything. So they will go on what others are doing.

Others can make their decisions secretly-far away from people's judgment and discouraging energy vibes(I do this as a Sun-Nep). So they may guard their privacy (Neptune)with extreme vigour(Mars).

As much as I said there are some Neptune Moon people who have no idea what they feel. I also feel that there are those who are very clear on how they are feeling i.e they feel for both just like the two fish swimming in opposite directions.

But most are terrified of letting others in on those feelings- in case they disagree i.e. they may feel sympathy for the serial killer on death row- whom the world has written off as "evil".

Or they may sympathize with the white supremist Nazi member. Because they see someone who is terrified that their closely held beliefs are being fiercely challenged etc.

So you ask them " what do you think of that Orlando bombing at the gay club?" And then they sigh and think of the victims who died (pity them).

Then think of the bomber who victimized all those people(pity them too because they feel that the bomber was in pain too).

posted September 15, 2018 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
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The leo I know that speaks from her heart has Mercury in leo and sun conjunct moon so the ruler of her Mercury conjuncts her moon.

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By contrast:
My best friend from childhood has sun conjunct moon in Leo conjunct my VENUS, I adore him big time, pure love and I have always felt he has a big heart but his mercury is in virgo and I wouldn't say he speaks from the heart, I feel he is more reserved and keeps a lot to himself.

posted September 15, 2018 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Not at all. Lol.

The aspects to the Moon are the point of focus IMO. Regardless of the Sun's position.

Even the private and careful Virgo Moon can find themselves having to blurt out their feelings when Moon is in aspect to Uranus/Mars or Mercury.

Uranus/Mercury are however likely to be changeable and erratic. Whilst Mars is more passionate.

With regard to your friends,Neptune can dissolve individual feelings and merge with the public seamlessly.

So it could be that one identifies with one's own feelings. But then again,they also can feel the opinion and views of many others. And identify with them too.

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Omg this is Gold Arie23! <3

Can I gain this type of insight via astrology soursces like books? I soo wish that was the case
(sorry I held the quoting short)

I've read your post 3 times now, so much great information!

I really start to understand them and their, to me, tame and sometimes boring and soft elusive and naive comments and beliefs etc. It all makes so much better sense now. And here I was blaming one for having too much Libra energy. And the other for, dunny, mars retrro? haha. Layers, soo many damn layers!

Luckily I have dear Neptune trining my Sun and Mercury (an aspect I share with thise guys!). And neptune to my venus, great aspect! I sure understand the whole thing about beimg able to like a sponge suck in the collective mins and opinions. I believe though my scorpio pluto in the mix works as an "antidote". I'm not easily fooled or swayed.

I feel thise guys are too naive and very impressionable to the collective opinions, maybe not to one on one conversations but what doo I know, I may be getting through to them.

They atleast said I had "ratioal view points". I guess thats a compliment coming from guys haha!

One of the guys even seem to know he is naive! He has at several occoacions after other types of discussions asked me

"So, you must think we are very naive?" with a big a bit emberrased smile. So he knows maybe, or feels he is a bit impressionable? He has Leo mercury though, so he is fixed in his beliefs. But he fixates on such irrational things, trying to guard his "individuality" I think.

I really can feel his struggle, thats the word, I can clearly see, how he struggles, to be accomodating and diplomatic.

But also tries to seem strong etc. But he is still so naive, I can see it, and he knows this about himself, and it really bothers him and makes him insecure. Anyways thats an other topic..

Luckily my moon is no where near neptune, natally

Yes its true, how they feal sorry for the murdurers and perpetrators alike! I once caught one of them feeling sorry for, ehum, pedophiles! Said its not their fault they are like that etc. I had to do my damnest not to react and open my mouf, for I would have exploded with a judgy manner, and that would have scared him away.

I mean, I don't think he would have said that if he did not feel "safe" with me? I think thise guys are not a fan of being critisized.