posted October 05, 2018 08:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
oh don't forget to look at your Venus/Mars midpoints!

My Venus/Mars m point is conjunct, my Taurus Sun!
Oh my! Hot mama! haha! Must mean I'm a sexual sensual beast ahahah

Found this thread about that midpoint. Have not had time to read it yet though, bute here You go

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My Venus/Mars midpoint =Pluto.

When Venus/Mars=Sun, romance and passion are the stuff of your life. I would refer to this midpoint interaction with Sun as very much the "Italian spirit"

Lots of romance, lots of sparring,lots of creativity, lots of physical interaction etc. Dating/Marriage is a HUGE deal and can be personality defining.

You remember the great loves and losses of your life. Love hurts and then love burns. But love is at least eventful. Its the stuff of life.

posted October 05, 2018 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
My Venus/Mars midpoint =Pluto.

When Venus/Mars=Sun, romance and passion are the stuff of your life. I would refer to this midpoint interaction with Sun as very much the "Italian spirit"

Lots of romance, lots of sparring,lots of creativity, lots of physical interaction etc. Dating/Marriage is a HUGE deal and can be personality defining.

You remember the great loves and losses of your life. Love hurts and then love burns. But love is at least eventful. Its the stuff of life.

I find Venus/Mars on Sun,Moon or Asc as "sexy". Others can be drawn or attracted to charisma and a feistiness of the charm therein.

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And my Pluto is Opposite this midpoint I'm soo screwed

I'm mediterranean, my parents are and I identify with that culture, its in my BLOOD and Dna^^.

I have NOT been integrated to the Swedish culture, despite being born and raised here, much to mySwedish governments dismay ahah sorry not sorry Sweden!

Alas, my 5th house cap venus/saturn etc, I have not had real relationships yet, being a couple etc. Only obsessive crushings, flirtationships with lots and lots of passionate feelings involved.

Yes I'm carismatic (plutonic and lots of Mars energy arian, 8th house yada yada). Drawing male attention is not hard at all for me.

I feel I'm, "bitter sweet". Very innocent, youthful, petite and reserved looking, with an intense aura, think Mila Kunis and Natalie Portman and alike (not as pretty though )

posted October 05, 2018 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The Mercury/Jupiter on Saturn suggests an ability(practical mostly) to bring big(Jupiter) ideas(Mercury) into tangible form (Saturn).

Saturn wants to bring things very much "down to earth". Both Jupiter and Mercury are far from " earthy". So this means that the ideas/thoughts of the native are brought down to what is practical.

I am thinking this midpoint can be excellent in bringing the abstract to a point where it can be understood by more people I.e quantum physics professor who publishes the "quantum physics for dummies" book etc.

Moon/Mars=Sun would make the individual personality passionate and easily roused.

So that means that ambitions are tied up with passions and extremes of emotions. They tend to be attracted to goals that will provide emotional stimulation.

If Sun rules relationship houses 5th,7th or 8th, there are likely many emotional episodes. But that's only because they heighten the sexual experience.

These people tend to be insecure and need emotional reassurance so that they don't feel like they are "competing" for attention.

Early childhood(Moon) wounds(Mars) had a huge impact on their personality and outlook(Sun)

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Oh my.. do you guys sometimes feel like, you are reading someones private thoughts, our private journals when reading deeper stuff in their charts? I Love it! Haha I loove digging into others minds!

"Early childhood(Moon) wounds(Mars) had a huge impact on their personality and outlook(Sun)".

Yes, I think it must be correct, since his father left him and his mother when he was 10 years old. For no good reason. How someone could leave such a sweet unproblematic exemplaric boy, I will never understand!

"These people tend to be insecure and need emotional reassurance so that they don't feel like they are "competing" for attention."

Hey this is me! And him also! I believed it was only his ego leo sun, or mars squa venus. well of course not!

Midpoints seems awesome! Giving a cleare picture.

This personal trait in both of us, makes us both understand each other on a subtle level and show extra care and empathy.

ONLY if one is the hurt one and the other the soothing one.

If both people are hurt at the same time, its a mess!

So its not only about "power plays"

Its one not wanna give up ones hurt for the sake of the other, and probably a lot more other weird human emotions things haha...

I'm sooo happy right now though! This Venus scorp square Mars Aqua transit feels awesome!

posted October 05, 2018 11:34 AM            

In the relationship perspective Venus-Mars is not always everyone's cup of tea (contrary to popular belief) because of the juxtaposed energies of the two planets involved.

Some people may think Venus/Mars people come on too strong. Or they assert themselves too much etc.

Now when Pluto is there, the result is that my love style may NOT be everyone's cup of tea.

Some people may love me to the point of being obsessed. Whilst others grow to despise me to a point of wanting to kill me.

In my case, this is even more apt given that Pluto rules the 8th and is located in the 7th.

posted October 05, 2018 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Venus/Mars characterizes the archetype balance between the separate identity(Mars) and social integration (Venus). One interdependent on the other.

In the relationship perspective Venus-Mars is not always everyone's cup of tea (contrary to popular belief) because of the juxtaposed energies of the two planets involved.

Some people may think Venus/Mars people come on too strong. Or they assert themselves too much etc.

Now when Pluto is there, the result is that my love style may NOT be everyone's cup of tea.

Some people may love me to the point of being obsessed. Whilst others grow to despise me to a point of wanting to kill me.

In my case, this is even more apt given that Pluto rules the 8th and is located in the 7th.

If Pluto ruled the 1st/ 10th or (more aptly)was conjunct these angles, I would polarize people: some would hate my guts whilst others would follow me anywhere and everywhere.

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I understand Completely how and what you mean! Elsa from elsa astrology talk about one of the bad sides of Pluto. Feeling like or literally being, Repulsive to others.

For ex, having Pluto in 3rd. Being repulsive in ones communication style. It does not mean one is "always" repulsive, only sometimes or maybe often but not always. And not eveybody will feel like the chart owner is being repulsive.

Or having pluto in 7th, attracting repulsive types.
Having it in 12th, can make the chart owner feel he/she is repulsive, but its just percieved repulsiveness, not seen by other people etc.

Some people may find your style/energy repulsive, but they will feel attracted at the same time, bc repulsiveness can make up for attraction at the same time, bc we human are weird that way, what to say haha

posted October 05, 2018 01:18 PM            

The thing is that when Venus is interacting, its like the villain in the soapie that you love to hate.

Pluto can evoke strong feelings in others. And sometimes can even lead to violent confrontations (especially when Mars is also involved)

Pluto in 3rd( my sister has this placement) may evoke strong reactions from others through what they say.

I think my sister likes to read these polarizing stories and post updates on Facebook that can get people fired up.

My younger sister has Mars in Leo in 3rd house square to Pluto. But I think it is still slow to actualize(thank goodness)

But she and the one with Pluto in 3rd don't get on . It gets tense.

****off topic***
Its weird, in my family all of them have Pluto strong contacts. I don't.

Mom has Pluto square N.Node and Sun square Pluto.

Dad has Mars/Pluto conjunct, Sun/Pluto parallel.

Sis(older) has Sun opp Pluto,Mercury opp Pluto.

Sis(younger) has Sun/Pluto conj,Jupiter /Pluto conjunct.

Me: Nada!! Except perhaps a gentle Sun/Pl sextile.

posted October 05, 2018 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. It could be. Midpoints put another perspective into view.

The thing is that when Venus is interacting, its like the villain in the soapie that you love to hate.

Pluto can evoke strong feelings in others. And sometimes can even lead to violent confrontations (especially when Mars is also involved)

Pluto in 3rd( my sister has this placement) may evoke strong reactions from others through what they say.

I think my sister likes to read these polarizing stories and post updates on Facebook that can get people fired up.

My younger sister has Mars in Leo in 3rd house square to Pluto. But I think it is still slow to actualize(thank goodness)

But she and the one with Pluto in 3rd don't get on . It gets tense.

****off topic***
Its weird, in my family all of them have Pluto strong contacts. I don't.

Mom has Pluto square N.Node and Sun square Pluto.

Dad has Mars/Pluto conjunct, Sun/Pluto parallel.

Sis(older) has Sun opp Pluto,Mercury opp Pluto.

Sis(younger) has Sun/Pluto conj,Jupiter /Pluto conjunct.

Me: Nada!! Except perhaps a gentle Sun/Pl sextile.

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The loveable villain! <3

You sure have really fiesty sisters, and parenst aww its lucky you atleast have Venus in Scorpio

I have seen that in many families, where one of the siblings are like, an alien compared with the other members.

Like in your case, all siblings and maybe the mother or both parents are argumentativ, and then there is one sibling that is silent, or laid back n balanced etc.

posted October 05, 2018 03:02 PM            

My Mother does have a brother. And we do look alike. But our temperaments are different.

posted October 06, 2018 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Wow!! Coincidence.

My Mother does have a brother. And we do look alike. But our temperaments are different.

I don't know Uncle's dob oddly enough.

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Nope not coincedence Genetics. Both genetics regarding looks, temperament and "astrological themes" can be passed through that way for generations.

Often the boy resembles the mothers brother, or the fathers brother.(or one of the brothers if there is more then one of course)

Daughters often rsembles the fathers sister or the mothers sister and so on.

I'm looks vise alike my father and mother.

But I have some of the quirks one of my mothers sisters have.

I don't know her birthday though so I can't look at her placements.

posted October 09, 2018 01:06 AM            

I have not met my biological Dad's brothers (all of them). As he has 9(I think).

posted October 09, 2018 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What planet does it aspect?

I.e Venus/Saturn =? Planet/Angle

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Venus/Saturn midpoint conjunct asteroid Aphrodite and asteroid Whiterabbit, in natal.

In synastry, Venus/Saturn midpoint conjunct the other persons Venus.

posted October 09, 2018 11:19 AM            

Typically speaking Venus/Saturn speaks of love that is restrained or affections that are held back.

Think of Mr Darcy from Pride and Prejudice starring Matthew McFayden and Keira Knightley.

Mr Darcy confronts Liz in the rain about his feelings. And he starts off professing his love for her with "I can bear it no longer" and "I ask you to end my agony"

The Venus-Sat individual can find feelings of passion or infatuation/lust, very hard to deal with. The common notion to deal with such is suppress..suppress..
.suppress.

This especially when its apparent that such feelings will leave them open and vulnerable.

So think of this energy in terms of the asteroids mentioned. See how this energy encapsulates their expression.

Eg if Moon=Venus/Saturn suggests an individual who knows how to discipline their emotions and know when to express them to to maximum benefit

posted October 09, 2018 11:34 AM            

In the synastry with my luv, we have exact 0 degree conjunctions to these midpoints:

His Mars/Pluto conj my Venus (0'15)
My Venus/Pluto conj his Mars (0'30)

posted October 09, 2018 01:03 PM            

Whilst the Mars/Pluto may be the more volatile and easily explosive one. The Venus/Pluto one lingers longer in memory and doesn't forget the affair

People get excited when Pluto is involved in their lovelife. Meanwhile I don't think it that great to have Pluto interactions. Its too serious and complex.

posted October 09, 2018 01:23 PM            

But what about Venus conjunct the Venus/Saturn midpoint in synastry?