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Aries23Degrees
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posted September 25, 2018 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a couple & find them quite fascinating.

Sun/Nep/Jup=Mercury/Uranus
Sun/Nep/Jup=Moon/Uranus
Sun=Neptune/Jupiter
Ura=Venus/Sun
Mars=Moon/Merc
Pluto=Venus/Mars
Pluto=Mars/Saturn
Asc/Mc=Moon/Mercury
Asc/Mc=Mercury/Mars
Asc/Mc=Moon/Mars
Asc/Mc=Pluto/Mars

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posted September 25, 2018 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any way to find Mid Points except manual calculations ? I'm not good at mathematics.

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posted September 25, 2018 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a function on astro.com

or
http://teachmeastrology.com/midpoint-calculator/

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posted September 26, 2018 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Soulsjourney

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posted September 26, 2018 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 26, 2018 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a few exact/tight ones that I remember


sun/moon = mercury

venus/AC = mars

sun/saturn = moon

moon/pluto = mars

jupiter/uranus = mercury

pluto/AC = moon

I especially wonder what the two last ones mean!

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posted September 26, 2018 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries

your sun on your jupiter/neptune midpoint sounds like such a wonderful position!

I think the jupiter/neptune midpoint is a place of inspiration and hopefulness!

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posted September 26, 2018 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. Thank you.

That Jupiter/Neptune on the Sun is what you mostly see on here i.e. optimistic, inclined to preach and even idealistic.

I wanted to extend this talk to what each actually means in real terms.

When I look at all the "ingredients" that make up my Sun, it explains why I don't "feel" pragmatic at all.

I look to the future a lot. Look at things from the overall point of view and always project forward.

I never look at "reality" as it does not please me to engage too much in it. Not unless the reality is compatible to my inner being.

So when I see someone with Sun-Jupiter, Sun-Neptune,Sun-Uranus,Sun-Moon and Sun-Mercury. I see a kindred spirit.

But I also see that in my relationship with them, we will both have our eyes firmly planted in "what will be" and not enough on "what is" or the practical day-to-day living.


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posted September 26, 2018 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting!


what aspects then do you think will make up for a person who always lives in the moment?

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posted September 26, 2018 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like yours though

Sun/Moon=Merc suggests an ability be to express your heart(Sun) and spirit(Moon).

So I wonder if journal writing increases awareness of values(Sun) & feelings(Moon).

I have the parallel aspect of Merc to Sun. And the Moon opposes Mercury.But I am not sure they work in alignment at all.

I would also imagine that that spicy Mo/Pl=Ma suggests powerful emotions that motivate towards drastic & sustainable action plans.

It can also suggest emotionally explosives reactions or acute sensitivity that lingers on for years.

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posted September 26, 2018 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
interesting!


what aspects then do you think will make up for a person who always lives in the moment?


I would say if Mars/Saturn=Sun midpoint is very glued to the present. In that the goals(Sun) are translated into action(Mars) plans(Saturn)

Also Mercury/Saturn=Sun where thoughts(Merc) centre around the tangible (Saturn) in order to reach goals(Sun).

Saturn involved in a Sun midpoint usually suggests an individual with feet on the ground.

The downside being however that there is a possibility that Saturn may demoralize the individual so much that they become depressed or pessimistic about life.

Being too connected to "reality" also makes one conservative and contract a lot when it comes to future goals.


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posted September 26, 2018 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks Aries!


what do you think the jupiter/uranus midpoint represents?

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posted September 26, 2018 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
thanks Aries!
what do you think the jupiter/uranus midpoint represents?

Jupiter/Uranus=Mercury.

This suggests an ability to articulate abstract(Uranus) ideas (Jupiter).

This midpoint also emphasizes that there is an unquenchable desire to learn unexplored ideas. You are not interested in the mundane but exploration of the unusual, scientific, uncharted etc. Can be very fulfilling intellectually.

I see this aspect as the type to be interested in astrology actually.

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posted September 26, 2018 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you very much for this beautiful interpretation!

I think I just saw your jupiter/neptune = sun in action here!

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posted October 01, 2018 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted October 01, 2018 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I simply don't like my midpoints -- there are a lot of squares and opposition.

My tightest orb is:
Venus/Jupiter Square Ascendant 0.07

I find it interestingly resonate. With this aspect I would assume, I come off accessible to gaining luck in love or even money? My friends do see this but I also made some enemies for this reason (maybe that's how the square plays out). They don't see me working as hard even though I do.

2nd tightest is
Mercury/Venus Square Neptune
I do have a spacey mind and it's fill with beautiful imaginations. I grew up loving pastel and soft colors. When I speak it, its not very specific. Polite as well.
Lately this isn't the case because my mercury square mars progression (according to my memory)

How does everyone feel about the midpoints for Nodes and angles?

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Hey Aries
Sun/Nep/Jup=Mercury/Uranus

Is it a Sun/Nep/Jup conjunction midpoint to Mercury and Uranus?

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posted October 02, 2018 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
I simply don't like my midpoints -- there are a lot of squares and opposition.

My tightest orb is:
Venus/Jupiter Square Ascendant 0.07

I find it interestingly resonate. With this aspect I would assume, I come off accessible to gaining luck in love or even money? My friends do see this but I also made some enemies for this reason (maybe that's how the square plays out). They don't see me working as hard even though I do.

2nd tightest is
Mercury/Venus Square Neptune
I do have a spacey mind and it's fill with beautiful imaginations. I grew up loving pastel and soft colors. When I speak it, its not very specific. Polite as well.
Lately this isn't the case because my mercury square mars progression (according to my memory)

How does everyone feel about the midpoints for Nodes and angles?

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Hey Aries
Sun/Nep/Jup=Mercury/Uranus

Is it a Sun/Nep/Jup conjunction midpoint to Mercury and Uranus?


The Venus-Jupiter =Ascendant would have you take on the role of the optimist who finds the silver lining in difficulties.

Jupiter may expand this romantic outlook and increase your confidence in relating to others in a positive, affirming way IMO.

I have a thread running regarding Venus-Jupiter actually. I wanted clarity since I had trans Jupiter on my Venus. I wanted to clarify the effect.

The result I found was not so much money-oriented but an increased positive outlook. Even "unrealistic" by some people's standards.

So I would imagine if on the Asc/DSC axis it would affect relationships in your case. People seeing you as positive and great to be around. Perhaps even a little annoying to the more cynical types lol.

I think its an awesome midpoint to have(especially when on your Asc/DSC). Because unless there is Saturn/Pluto to negate the positive influence of both Venus/Jupiter on your Asc, you are not likely to be moody or struggle with depression (barring transits)

I have Moon/Mercury on my Midpoint by 1 degree orb. I come across to others as a person who wants to talk about emotions or share real feelings. Which is true I guess. But I can only go on the feedback I get (DSC)

I also get depressive spells that I have to talk myself out of. Any midpoint involving the Moon is likely to ebb and flow. Never stable.

Not unless there is Venus/Jupiter=Moon, then that individual can detach from the erratic changes and maintain faith/optimism that all will work out fine.

I agree with your take on Mercury/Venus= Neptune. Although I must ask: Do you think that it plays a role in romantic attractions and friendships too?

Neptune/Venus together for me when interacting is the stuff of fairy tales.

How does everyone feel about the midpoints for Nodes and angles?

I think of them as valid too. They certainly help to clarify the nuances in approach and differences between someone who has Venus /Neptune=Mc and Jupiter/Saturn=Mc. This despite both Mc positions being in Cap 18 degrees for instance.

One is more idealistic whilst the other more pragmatic

Hey Aries
Sun/Nep/Jup=Mercury/Uranus

Is it a Sun/Nep/Jup conjunction midpoint to Mercury and Uranus?

There is a tight triple conjunction of Sun-Nep and Jupiter in my chart.

So the Mercury/Uranus and Moon/Uranus midpoint =All of them i.e

Sun= Mercury/Uranus
Neptune=Mercury/Uranus
Jupiter=Mercury/Uranus

AND

Sun= Moon/Uranus
Neptune=Moon/Uranus
Jupiter=Moon/Uranus

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posted October 02, 2018 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I do wanna talk about midpoints! But, I know not much about it. Also i have to look closely at mine.

For now this sprung out to me, my
Moon/Pluto AND Mars/Pluto midpoint is in 27-29 degrees Leo.

Meaning, they conjuncts my crushs Natal Sun... one more mystery thas been solved ahaha (laughing at my obsessive self)...


AND his Sun/moon midpoint is EXACTLY conjunct my Natal Moon-Mars

Hope that means, he is obsessed aswell , would be nice. If I'm in pain, he should to! haha sorry, scorpio sarcasm! (only half kidding )

Ok, I really have to learn more about M points!

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posted October 03, 2018 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The Venus-Jupiter =Ascendant would have you take on the role of the optimist who finds the silver lining in difficulties.

Jupiter may expand this romantic outlook and increase your confidence in relating to others in a positive, affirming way IMO.

I have a thread running regarding Venus-Jupiter actually. I wanted clarity since I had trans Jupiter on my Venus. I wanted to clarify the effect.

The result I found was not so much money-oriented but an increased positive outlook. Even "unrealistic" by some people's standards.

So I would imagine if on the Asc/DSC axis it would affect relationships in your case. People seeing you as positive and great to be around. Perhaps even a little annoying to the more cynical types lol.

I think its an awesome midpoint to have(especially when on your Asc/DSC). Because unless there is Saturn/Pluto to negate the positive influence of both Venus/Jupiter on your Asc, you are not likely to be moody or struggle with depression (barring transits)
I have Moon/Mercury on my Midpoint by 1 degree orb. I come across to others as a person who wants to talk about emotions or share real feelings. Which is true I guess. But I can only go on the feedback I get (DSC)

I also get depressive spells that I have to talk myself out of. Any midpoint involving the Moon is likely to ebb and flow. Never stable.

Not unless there is Venus/Jupiter=Moon, then that individual can detach from the erratic changes and maintain faith/optimism that all will work out fine.



Lol you bet. I can annoy people with my bubbly-ness and perspective – it doesn’t last long because I feel there is an eternal sadness in me and they sense it once they know me more, which I think what you mean by having Saturn negate the energy (Mercury/Saturn Square Moon - 0.12).. I can imagine myself playing, in small doses, the main character from legally blonde
When it comes to the moon, could it be because the moon cycles in each sign for 2.5 days that made it not stable or because it is our inner subconscious that can be expose to vulnerability.
I would take Venus/Jupiter=Moon over Venus/Jupiter=ASC any day.

I agree with your take on Mercury/Venus= Neptune. Although I must ask: Do you think that it plays a role in romantic attractions and friendships too?

Neptune/Venus together for me when interacting is the stuff of fairy tales.
Hm… *thinking* *thinking real hard*
Telepathy - I used to have strong hope my friends and love ones can read my mind. There was a high hope. I learn unspoken words are not realistic to express how I think or want.
It also trickles down to asking silly questions “If I have cancer, would you be by my side” because I idealize unconditional love.

I think of them as valid too. They certainly help to clarify the nuances in approach and differences between someone who has Venus /Neptune=Mc and Jupiter/Saturn=Mc. This despite both Mc positions being in Cap 18 degrees for instance.

One is more idealistic whilst the other more pragmatic
Yes! I enjoy midpoints too and it fills in the story of the chart – I can never have too many information.


There is a tight triple conjunction of Sun-Nep and Jupiter in my chart.

So the Mercury/Uranus and Moon/Uranus midpoint =All of them i.e

Sun= Mercury/Uranus
Neptune=Mercury/Uranus
Jupiter=Mercury/Uranus

AND

Sun= Moon/Uranus
Neptune=Moon/Uranus
Jupiter=Moon/Uranus

Wow! Your mercury is actively aspecting to many points. Particulary, non-personal planets. I would think this makes someone an abstract and unique thinker.

My vocabulary is still limited (merc in pisces). The midpoints for me is like solving a long math equation.

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posted October 04, 2018 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more you see how planets interact, the better you will get with em.

To anwer your question. The Moon is the most vulnerable personal planet and is the natives subjective life experience.

So any midpoint that involves the Moon(Neptune,Uranus,Pluto,Mercury and Mars too) makes it shaky.

The Moon/Uranus midpoint=Sun, my life goals are fused with my emotional receptivity to change.

So I will ALWAYS be changeable, restless and looking for novelty in the areas that the Sun rules.

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posted October 04, 2018 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked for the tightest midpoints I have touching my natal placements. I'm only listing conjunctions, oppositions, and squares. There are minor aspects that are much tighter. These are also more midpoints than this within orb.

Moon conjunct Mercury/Jupiter - orb of 6 minutes
Moon conjunct Mercury/Midheaven - orb of 12 minutes
Jupiter opposite Mercury/Uranus - orb of 17 minutes
Jupiter opposite Venus/North Node - orb of 24 minutes
Jupiter conjunct Jupiter/Midheaven - orb of 18 minutes
Uranus square Venus/Mars - orb of 10 minutes
Ascendant opposite Moon/Mercury - orb of 2 minutes
Midheaven opposite Venus/North Node - orb of 12 minutes

Moon/Mercury opposes my Ascendant, which means it's conjunct my Descendant. I wonder if that explains why I see Mercury show up more often than my actual 7th house ruler when I'm looking at my relationship history. Not counting the Moon, Mercury is the first planet that will conjunct my Descendant in my progressed chart. My Sun/Moon midpoint is also in Gemini.

If I count minor aspects to my natal placements, Mercury is semi-square my Sun/Moon midpoint and also forms the tightest midpoint aspect I have with an orb of only 1 minute.

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posted October 04, 2018 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon=Mercury/Jupiter

I have the parallel aspect of Mercury/Jupiter tight. With Moon opposite Mercury tight natally in 3rd house /9th house respectively.

I zoned into this midpoint and only have one comment "be careful what you think as whatever you focus your thoughts on, will expand".

So your emotional well being (Moon) is entirely dependent on the expanded(Jupiter) thought patterns(Merc)

Protect your thoughts. Think positively etc. Look to the positive.

I wonder if you struggle with mood swings?

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posted October 05, 2018 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going on the same theme above as you guys:
How would one be affected by Saturn conjunct Exactly, the Mercury/jupiter midpoint?
Excessively Depressive thoughts?


Oh and this combo then; Moon/Mars midpoint Conjunct by Natal Leo Sun. I interprent it as, very easily wounded ego, would it be right?

Not my mid points , A friend has thise... now days I get excited looking at others charts then mine ahaha

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posted October 05, 2018 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh don't forget to look at your Venus/Mars midpoints!

My Venus/Mars m point is conjunct, my Taurus Sun!
Oh my! Hot mama! haha! Must mean I'm a sexual sensual beast ahahah

Found this thread about that midpoint. Have not had time to read it yet though, bute here You go

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/220271.html

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posted October 05, 2018 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Melinn:
Going on the same theme above as you guys:
How would one be affected by Saturn conjunct Exactly, the Mercury/jupiter midpoint?
Excessively Depressive thoughts?


Oh and this combo then; Moon/Mars midpoint Conjunct by Natal Leo Sun. I interprent it as, very easily wounded ego, would it be right?

Not my mid-points , A friend has thise... now days I get excited looking at others charts then mine ahaha


The Mercury/Jupiter on Saturn suggests an ability(practical mostly) to bring big(Jupiter) ideas(Mercury) into tangible form (Saturn).

Saturn wants to bring things very much "down to earth". Both Jupiter and Mercury are far from " earthy". So this means that the ideas/thoughts of the native are brought down to what is practical.

I am thinking this midpoint can be excellent in bringing the abstract to a point where it can be understood by more people I.e quantum physics professor who publishes the "quantum physics for dummies" book etc.

Moon/Mars=Sun would make the individual personality passionate and easily roused.

So that means that ambitions are tied up with passions and extremes of emotions. They tend to be attracted to goals that will provide emotional stimulation.

If Sun rules relationship houses 5th,7th or 8th, there are likely many emotional episodes. But that's only because they heighten the sexual experience.

These people tend to be insecure and need emotional reassurance so that they don't feel like they are "competing" for attention.

Early childhood(Moon) wounds(Mars) had a huge impact on their personality and outlook(Sun)

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