posted September 25, 2018 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I would say lack of fire and water generally.

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Damn!
I am 'Dull' ?
I'm a heavy 'Air' Gemini Moon and Venus. Many planets in Libra 5th and 6th.
I am 'Boring' ?

posted September 26, 2018 04:29 AM            

They also tend to lack "vivacity" ime. But I also would not say they are boring at all just because they lack fire presence.

And even if with this being so, fire sign presence does not automatically make someone "fun". It makes them passionate in the area of life where that energy is.

I would say strong 6th,2nd and 10th house placements- due to these folks being very "work" oriented etc. So when in the social scene,they find it hard to unwind from that strong chart momentum.

Add to that, people with strong 4th,8th and 12th could close other people off. So their mysterious aura could be interpreted as "boring".

I have been called "boring" plenty of times myself. And this despite a stellium in 9th and at a strong fiery chart. S

And a Gemini strong ex of mine I found very uninteresting. He was so into gossip(in typical Gem style). So I think the word is subjective.

I think it depends on the person doing the assessment of what constitutes "boring" or "dull".

For me, boring means that the individual is not engaging or interesting. You don't feel energized after talking to them and they can be a firecracker. I appreciate that.

My mate has a stellium in 2nd and many people find him boring. But I don't. I like his dry humour and overall reserved personality.

I have been with a Sag who has Mercury, Venus and Neptune also there. And I didn't like him much around all the time. As he was not engaging but he was "fun".

He was always " go,go,go". And could never settle down to a chilled out mode. Kinda reminds me of "Stifler" from the American Pie movies i.e. awesome to hang out with. But you don't want him around when you are not.

His Moon in early Gemini kind of wanted him to savour everything. And its opposition to Uranus also increased his instability I guess.

I found his "exciting" personality exhausting.

posted September 26, 2018 05:26 AM            

Well I have to be able to joke and use my sarcastic and weird humor without the other person taking offence or feeling weirded out by me.

So far I have just one person I know of that is, maybe not boring, but super suuuper hard to even have a conversation with, because she is a huuuge air head!

She is a beam of sunshine, always, either happy or slightly irritated but happy anyways hah. But impossible to connect with! You can start to talk to her, she will be focused on you for tops 2-3 minutes, I swear!

Then she will start to engage with others in her near and she can't even keep her eyes focused on you. She is all over the place and she will soon flutter away like a butterfly haha. She is a perfect person for "mingling".

Yes she is sparkly, but for me, super dull, bc one just can not connect with her at all!
I tried to only ask her questions about her, to make her talk just about herself, but nope, didn't work. She is never unpolite or anything, she just don't wanna stand or sit to talk. She is the doughter of one of my mothers friends. We don't see each other that much, only at some gatherings.

She has a conjunction of Sun-Mercury-Venus and Moon all in Gemini! Soo much air!
Mars in Aries and Jupiter is squaring her Gemini stellium.

Lately I have started to notice, people having Jupiter in contact with their sun or merc often can not see their own faults. They just think they are nearly perfect or something.

posted September 26, 2018 08:55 AM            

I'll explain more later xD g2g

posted September 26, 2018 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I would say lack of fire and water generally.
I find heavy air charts to be very boring and earth charts very heavy. Don't get me wrong I don't mean that generally those signs are like that. But a few of the most boring, dull almost like lifeless people I've known have heavy Capricorn/Virgo (they are so serious and earthy) charts and Gemini/Aqua which makes me feel like they are emotionless and they are bored to death because of their inabillity to "feel". I find it particularly true if Moon is in one of the above mentioned signs and the rest of the chart doesn't help.

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posted September 26, 2018 04:53 PM            

I said that especially Gemini/Aqua Moons when the rest of the chart doesn't help and abive that comment I explained how the rest of the chart doesn't help (lack of fire/water, heavy Capricorn/Virgo)

Somna you don't even have lack of water, when we say lack of water or fire we mean nit one personal planet is in fire/water sign excluding outer planets.

Now I am not a pro but because of my mom's and aunt's jobs and thanks to chatrooms (I looked at many charts after trying to guess their Mercury, Venus, Moon and ASC) I've seen a few hundreds of charts the last 8 years but I don't know them all personally or long enough of course.
I have 9 charts of people who are considered boring. Now when I say boring I mean it in a kind of extreme way. Those people do not have friends and people around them do not like them.

based on their chart I saw these things:

• Saturn in 5th H
• Almost all personal planets in earth signs
• Mercury in Sag
• Gemini mixed with Taurus personal planets

Saturn in 5th H and Saturn in 8th H are the worst houses for Saturn imo (not sure about Saturn in 12th H yet). When T. Saturn was in my 5th H I lost interest in life, everything I always loved felt so boring and meaningless it was kind of creepy it is like it kills the joy. And I also felt like I functioned like a robot (it was after my father's death). So I understand how and why it can make someone boring.

Now Mercury in Sag has occupied me a lot because my best friend, a cousin, an uncle, one classmate and another person I know have it. None if them is a Sag Sun all of them are Scorpios with the only exception being my best friend who was a Capricorn.
They a have problematic communication with the only exception being again my best friend.

The first one is my cousin a girl. She haf problems with even her own cousins not standing her because she is stupid. Honestly I know this is very harsh but she is indeed.
The way she says things be it smth serious or humorous or whatever is always wring and it us such a turn off she is able to just make you bored. The main problem is that she doesn't have a mind of her own. She repeats whatever she hears from others it is like her brain just coppies everything instead if working in its own. She has severe problem no one can stand her and she things that others are jealous of her because her fatger is rich (meanwhile all her classmates are rich maybe even more than her). Second problem she doesn't stop talking and when she doesn't have anything to say she makes up stupid meaningless lies that she is revealing herself at some point because she can't remember all the silly lies she tells. I've talked to her a lot and she says that lies come naturally to her because she doesn't think what she is saying she just needs to say something because she can not stand silence. She wants to hear compliments and she wants others to like her she will go out of her way but it seems fake and it is.

Her moon and Mars in Libra her Venus on Sag.

Of course they are not all the same but they have the tendency to speak a lot and for some reason they arw boring and gave problem with not having friends.

Now my best friend has his Sag Mercury trine Moin, conjuct Mars and square Jupiter.
He was very clever and his joking style was very good plus he was very wtraight forward which I appreciate a lot.

And last the Gemini thing I noticed that there is a lot of Taurus too in their charts but they are bored easily and they are boring too.

I want to say that I am not talking about what I personally like or dislike, the people I am talking about have a problem being seen as boring by almost everyone (they will admit it themselves).

posted September 27, 2018 12:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
TaurusVenusGirl and Somna
Do not do that please..

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Sorry.
I had no intention to hurt you.
I'm not a 'Dull' person at all.
Though you already said that Saturn in 5th H is worst.
I have Exalted Saturn in 5th House
May be we should look at full chart before making final conclusion.
Or may be my chart is exception here.
I should not made any post here at first place. I apologize for this. If required mod please delete my all post and clean this thread. ☹️

posted September 27, 2018 08:18 AM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Looking at the whole chart is always warranted.

I personally believe that assuming personality traits based on a few aspects is harmful and pointless.

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That is general and it's an answer we could give on any thread.
However I find that mentioning the similarities of some charts could be more helpful. Since I know 9 people who have a huge problem with it and two other forum members agree with the earth signs being like that definately we are into smth. But even based on logic it is exlected for heavy earth to be like that unless there are hard aspects to external planets like Uranus or Pluto.

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Sorry.
I had no intention to hurt you.
I'm not a 'Dull' person at all.
Though you already said that Saturn in 5th H is worst.
I should not made any post here at first place. I apologize for this. If required mod please delete my all post and clean this thread. ☹️

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Too dramatic for a Gemini Moon.
5th and 8th H are the worst for Saturn meaning the most difficult for Saturn not related to being boring, but generally I find them the most difficult houses for Saturn to be in for the native who has Saturn in one of them.
I have Saturn in 8th H does it make you feel better?
No one said that you shouldn't post, even if someone had said it it's your right to post whatever you want.
"Please do not do that" was refering to taking one phrase out of the whole comment because it kind of changes the initial meaning.

posted September 27, 2018 09:56 AM            

Personal opinions are not be mistaken for concrete facts.

You find the practicality, sheer dedication, hardworking and responsible earth signs boring and dull. Others find safety and security in knowing that their friend or loved one can be depended upon and will likely always be there, through thick and thin. It doesn't, however, make earth signs devoid of humor or other lively qualities. Some of the most interesting people I have ever know have been Capricorns - I do mean Cappies with massive stelliums in their own sign. By far, they rival Aries in their calculated risks and (usually) wins.

I personally find the childlike, sometimes overly dramatic, overly emotional and over the top reactions of *some* people with fire and water boring and predictable. I would rather have a discussion with someone who can separate emotion from logic. But just because my previous relationships have led me to that conclusion, doesn't mean that I'm ready to apply it to all water and fire signs.

posted October 04, 2018 08:13 AM            

But also dull is a matter of perspective. Dull for one person might be wonderful for another, and so on.

I've got an earth rising, an earth stellium, and an earth Mars and Mercury. I've got all the earth.

I am not bothered by being considered dull. Someone has to be, I guess. But what does bother me is when being dull is somehow considered a bad thing. I don't think of it as bad. Some do. And it saddens me a bit when I try to speak with others, and they find my way of speaking boring. But, well, tis life I guess. And my rising makes me shy and reserved. I do not like it when people are too friendly with me up front, when meeting them.

Appearances can be deceiving, however.

One would never know what I am capable of, lest they take the time needed to get to know me. My upfront dullness is, in a way, a defense mechanism against shallow people or people with weak staying power.

My earth energy, I guess, helps me separate the wheat from the chaff.

If someone sees past my immediate "dullness", or just doesn't mind it at all, and takes the time to get to know me, then it makes it a bit more worth my while.

However, I do not much care for people who simply like me because I appear "dull", because if they take the time to get to know me, and discover not so dull things, then they can be shocked!

We live in a world that encourages, and glorifies extroversion, and think that introversion is something to be gotten rid of.

posted October 04, 2018 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You're not dull or boring, SV.

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Thanks, Randall.

posted October 05, 2018 06:23 PM            

Interestingly, i know someone who is all air and earth. She's not boring in the least, but she prefers not to engage unless it's worth her time. If it's not, she stays silent and uninvolved. But if you ask for her thoughts and she decides to give them , she has a genius mind and a very interesting thought perspective. She just doesn't feel the need to always let it out.

I am earth and water heavy, so I do love that. But a fire Mercury always gets sucked in to other fire signs. I struggle the most with air, but that's not to say they are boring. They just don't always capture my attention for long.

posted February 22, 2019 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I think personally water and earth signs can be the most boring by the general, dictionary standard of boring as they are not as adventurous, not as spontaneous, and not as willing to accept change and that's kind of what being fun and "Not boring" is all about. They prefer their material world and possessions and their materialized emotions to keep them calm and preoccupied, where the fire and air signs are more outward and need more human interactions to feel safe and comforted. The contrast can be found as boring to some (in the water and earth signs), because most people associate "not boring" with people who find constant comfort in flitting around town and the world and talking and socializing with many people. AKA extroverts.

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posted February 22, 2019 05:52 PM            

Before I ever lookad at his chart I thought that he has to have lots of Capricorn or Virgo, that would fit with his very serious, down to earth, workaholic type personality... But no, that doesn't seem to be the case. Unfortunately I only have an approximate birth time for him, so I can't be very specific about house placements and such. But within the time span when he should be born he doesn't have anything of significance in Capricorn and only Pluto in Virgo. Overall he has an interesting looking chart, with two overlapping kites (or an almost complete grand sextile, only lacking one point), along with a couple t-squares, so one would imagine a multifaceted and charismatic individual. But it doesn't seem to work that way...

But here are some features he has in his chart:

- He most probably has his Sagittarius Saturn in the 1st house, but I don't know how close to the ascendant...

- He has a big dominance of placements in fixed signs.

- All personal planets, except Moon, below the horizon. Might indicate someone more private, not so open.