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rzgemini
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posted October 09, 2018 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rzgemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone..

There is certain aspects I want to discuss. I have someone I am attracted to with his mars in aries square venus in cancer. I read somewhere that this aspect can bring infidelity, violence,lustful or some romantic problems?

He also has neptune squaring his mars, and in opposition to his venus.

I barely know him,but he looks charismatic and serious,and I admire him.I don't know about his personal relationships,but from what I see, he is ambitious and like to study. He got his PhD title under the age of thirty and successful (he is thirty now). With that image,I can't picture him as player.

I also read somewhere that mars in hard aspect to neptune can be sexually repressed? Now I don't know which one is true...

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posted October 09, 2018 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure there are other threads already started on this.

Maybe you could add to the conversations already started by joining those threads?

This way we all learn from the conversation

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posted October 09, 2018 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natal T-square with Venus opposite Neptune. Mars square Neptune and Mars square Venus.

The charisma may be from all the energies interacting i.e Mars/Neptune/Venus that could make the individual very attracting.

Typically Mars/Venus are juxtaposed in that the energy of one instinctively contradicts the energy of the other

While Venus brings together, Mars seeks to be independent.So the square of Mars to Venus may suggest that partnerships(Venus) are likely to be infused with a lot of passion(Mars).

On the one hand, this may suggest an individual who is passionate, demonstrative, easily roused, action oriented in love and the type to be infatuated.

In sex, they could prefer the more assertive /aggressive role or take charge of the relationship in some way. Leading it to its core purpose. Which is likely what they want to get to as soon as the relationship starts.

On the negative , the square also suggests an individual who is touchy, prickly and sensitive in love. Selfishness can also mark this disposition as one may disregard or find it hard to see the views of others when they are in the way of his own wishes.

The individual can be quick-tempered, bossy, forceful, temperamental, easily moved to anger, suspicious, jealous and the type to want to do what they want to do whilst they do not allow the partner the same liberty.

Lust is strong and the tendency to act upon ones feelings once sexual interest is peaked. But also many regrets in actions that were acted upon too prematurely and land one in trouble i.e infidelity due to impulsive action or affairs that are started too quickly and spontaneously, fizzling out.

Venus/Mars makes one sexy in that one is brave(Mars) in affairs of the heart(Venus)- which is very appealing for many people.

Neptune on both may add a thick layer of illusion. When interacting with Venus, there is heightened romantic aptitude and tendency to see partner(romantic interests) in an unrealistic light or reach too far or too high in love ideals.

So this could suggest someone who may expect the partner to be flawless and have trouble maintaining their passions when they see that the partner is not i.e the partner has a "past" or the partner does not live up to a built image.

On the other side, it may also suggest someone who is deceived in love,likes to have romantic flings that are with people who are already attached(knowingly or unknowingly). And finds it hard to commit to any one person at any particular time.

Whilst the square to Mars may suggest ill advised action that often result in more complications than one initially thought.

It encourages one to act in secret or to find indirect ways to do what they want to to without consulting others.

Sometimes Mars/Neptune interactions can be the type that stumbles on to something and then says "I didn't see that there" or "I didn't know that it was going to turn out like this".

A naive approach in action can lead to mistakes or committing oneself too early to something because of spontaneous passions and ideals. Only to later change ones mind and immediately want out!

It certainly adds to making one unreliable on one hand. But also quite charming and seductive on the other. So often times they are easily forgiven for their naivete.

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posted October 10, 2018 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23, always a joy to read your texts! <3

You just described my crush to the t!
(only that neptune is conj mars).


I give this just as an example I swear!

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I have venus aries stellium, Neptune squaring them. It was fire works right from the start. And I could rreally see and experience, how he too is into illusional relationships. We had a fire flirtationship. Until he gradually seemd to ”wake up”. When the neptune fog over his Mars was gone, I think he was like ”wtf are we doing?!”.

I’m an obsessive journaler and I had written words like ” The magic is gone ” during that period.

Then our bad sides started coming out. It was super rough. But now we have settled, and accepted things. No flirting, just friends. He is overly careful with my feelings and I very careful to not have expectation from him, bc that makes him start to buck like a wild horse haha

Ok this aspect is also called ”Men who hates women” aspect. Cheaters aspects etc. I agree. Men with this aspect in best case is impulsive, naive and passionat in love. Ease come easy go.

They can secretly feel like, men should be dominant and women should know their place. In a western sociaty this is not an accepted view anymore so he has to adapt but feel resentmen bc of that.

In worse case the person has hidden or unconcious or wven open contemt against women.

I would just say, be wary of this aspect.. ot bur s wuick and fizzles just as quick, often times.

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posted October 10, 2018 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rzgemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx for the info sassaqua, and thx for sharing and the input aries23 and melinn....in a man's chart mars is the way he experesses his masculinity, with his mars in aries, it will be a strong placement, squaring venus in cancer which is his ideal woman,whould it makes him domineering or violence? Since we know the cancerian traits are rather....

I personally have no problem if he is the dominant one as long as he is loving. In our synastry I have my venus conjunct his venus,but I also have saturn + neptune + uranus in opposition to my venus. So they automatically in squares to his mars. I forget to mention that he has venus conjunct chiron and so do I. But his chiron doesn't touch my venus. It's my venus chiron that conjunct his venus and square his mars. And to add that my pallas is conjunct his mars, if it matters.

He said,it easier to tell what he doesn't like rather than the other way around...honestly I'd rather want/ want to see him to have high standard than going after one woman to another.

He also has juno in cancer, but unaspected, except to asteroid union

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posted October 10, 2018 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rzgemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked two natal charts of celebrities with sexual scandal, and both of them have this mars square venus aspect. Maybe I should just give up my feeling for him,before I fall too deep...😢

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posted October 10, 2018 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ each individual handles the aspect differently.

An ex has Mars in Leo square Venus in Scorpio. Both square Uranus. Was he charismatic? Not really.

He also has Saturn Sun/Moon conjunct and square respectively and Pluto conjunct Saturn. Beautiful bone structure. Gorgeous guy really. But very reserved. So I guess Saturn negates all that.

@Melinn. You mentioned an Aries stellium. And I think that this could be one of those instances where the stellium rivals the Sun in personality expression.

I thought you Aries with Asc/Moon in Air. Hmmm....

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posted October 10, 2018 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rzgemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope so,because I can't really picture him as someone like that, get tangled with many women for lust. He is kinda intimidating actually and discipline guy,he doesn't even drink ^^

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posted October 11, 2018 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rzgemini:
I checked two natal charts of celebrities with sexual scandal, and both of them have this mars square venus aspect. Maybe I should just give up my feeling for him,before I fall too deep...😢

Lol, you can't of course not judge one person by two other celebrities charts thats not how it works^^

Also sorry I was not clear, but yes of course its like Aries23 says, one same aspect will be handled differently by one individual.

I have twin brother born minutes apart. Even they handle their energies differently! Do they have similar personality traits? Yes. Do they act and react the same to everything? No!

We can describe energies, we can describe likely scenarious, and its good, to be prepared for what may come. But its just interpretations, a human being is very much more complex.

Yes, in lots of for ex rape cases or assault cases, murder cases, we can se Pluto involved with personal planets like mars, sun,venus etc in the victims chart, or the perpetrators chart alike. There is a pattern.

but not every pluto-person would be a victim for crimes, or be a criminal

If I over simplify, "every victim case has pluto involved, but not every pluto involment means it will be a victim case"... Very overly simplified, but just to get the idea a cross^^

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posted October 11, 2018 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

@Melinn. You mentioned an Aries stellium. And I think that this could be one of those instances where the stellium rivals the Sun in personality expression.

I thought you Aries with Asc/Moon in Air. Hmmm....



Did you mean, Aries as in Sun aries?

If so, no, I'm Taurus sun-merc in 9th.

Asc Virgo ,

Moon air, thats correct^^

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posted October 11, 2018 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh OK. I now see.

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posted October 11, 2018 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rzgemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you melinn and aries23, I appreciate it. I tend to jump to the worst scenarious, sometimes I just need reassurance.

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posted October 15, 2018 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rzgemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With a man's mars square his venus, would he be more attracted to women who have conjunction to his venus or mars? Or to the ones that embody his venus qualities or mars?

Anyone?

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posted October 15, 2018 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://imgur.com/a/Mf32AlZ

i have a mars/venus square (pic related)

ive never cheated (in my opinion), but i'll flirt and i'd be lying if i said i havent come close though im also not in a 100% monogamous relationship and prefer dating 2 people at once

it's easier for me to just let people know they probably wont ever be the only one forever right away


as for violence not particularly unless you count things like property damage and throwing things but the former has had nothing to do with anger and the latter eh...im more loud than anything

it takes a lot and a long time (years) to get me mad and then once im actually there if someone just waits it out im over things pretty quick

my fiancee usually tells me i'm easiest to deal with if she just waits until i tire myself out then distracts me, which is true

and no matter how ****** i am if you could get me to laugh mid argument it's over

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posted October 15, 2018 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rzgemini:
With a man's mars square his venus, would he be more attracted to women who have conjunction to his venus or mars? Or to the ones that embody his venus qualities or mars?

Anyone?


my longterm relationship has some 8th and 12th house synastry, and is more based on moon sign than anything (i have moon conjunct descendant opposite venus) we admittedly break up for at least an hour once a week

i have had 2 friends with benefits who were capricorns (one was a guy, one was a woman) and never been with a libra though (but i'm thinking that has to do with my venus being on my ascendant)

i've seen it called a love/hate aspect and thats true

i both love and hate my fiancee more than ive ever felt either of those feelings towards anyone


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posted October 15, 2018 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rzgemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
https://imgur.com/a/Mf32AlZ

im also not in a 100% monogamous relationship and prefer dating 2 people at once

it's easier for me to just let people know they probably wont ever be the only one forever right away


as for violence not particularly unless you count things like property damage and throwing things but the former has had nothing to do with anger and the latter eh...im more loud than anything


I wonder if is the sign where your venus or mars fall matter? I see that you also have venus opposition moon dumuzi ^^....do you find yourself more attracted to women who embody your venus qulities or mars?

edit: oh wait, you already answer it

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posted October 15, 2018 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rzgemini:
I wonder if is the sign where your venus or mars fall matter? I see that you also have venus opposition moon dumuzi ^^....do you find yourself more attracted to women who embody your venus qulities or mars?

[b]edit: oh wait, you already answer it

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the sign does matter in the sense that it'll color the way things play out and the sort of person you get

also it shows the strength of the planets involved and what direction someone might be pulled in

the 2 capricorns i mentioned actually made the first move, i wasnt interested in either of them at first i just went with it

my fiancee actually has a lot of sag, scorpio, and pisces with an aries moon and aquarius ascendant been with her 14 years

it's definitely a volatile relationship, id be lying if i said otherwise

edit: i said "at first" but one it was more like "not at all" and with the other i intensely liked them for a minute once things already started

have a current friend with benefits who's an aquarius (aquarians usually like me i have a friend there was mutual flirting with til she got pregnant... nothing happened, but i've been the other person in the past) and again he made the first move

i actually never have (made the first move)tbh, never needed to


which is probably where the libra/cap influence comes in (in sidereal it's virgo/sag) because i imagine a more impulsive or assertive mars would be more forward rather than just going with passing opportunities

i also do this thing where i flirt with anyone potentially interested indefinitely "just in case"

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