posted October 18, 2018 12:18 PM            

The best planet strength rating system is the Shadbala of traditional Indian (Vedic) astrology. You can get it by downloading freeware Jagannatha Hora, entering your birth data and clicking on the Strengths tab. Shadbala will be displayed in the first row.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted October 18, 2018 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I'm sorry to inform you, but this rating system was created by someone (Walter Pullen) who does not yet know enough about planetary strengths, particularly by including asteroids. Also, no one has any of the outer 3 planets rating stronger than the personal planets (unless you're some sort of cosmic alien since soul development begins from the inner solar system -- sun -- and moves outward).

The best planet strength rating system is the Shadbala of traditional Indian (Vedic) astrology. You can get it by downloading freeware Jagannatha Hora, entering your birth data and clicking on the Strengths tab. Shadbala will be displayed in the first row.

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posted October 18, 2018 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Those are not my strongest planets (I have Sun and Uranus) but I do have Saturn sq Uranus in natal chart and it creates a HUGE rift inside me!
I’m one part rebel and one part responsible. It doesn’t help that I also have a Cap Moon and that Uranus is conj IC. Needless to say: people have a hard time figuring out where I stand.

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posted October 18, 2018 11:22 PM            

Use this: http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/lesson7/index.html

posted October 19, 2018 11:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
It is a traditional method of calculating dominant influences, using Ptolemy's Essential Dignities table and Lily's Accidental Dignities. It doesn't use any of the outer planets (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto), but I believe it is far more accurate than other calculators. You will have to do it yourself though.

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posted October 19, 2018 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Aqualilith09:
well idk about that vedic stuff if someone can show me the right websites i'll take a look. and as for calculating stuff my own, ehhhhhhhh i dont feel like doing all that now lol someone can do it for me : oct 5 1992 11:57 AM, Merced, CA lol

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posted October 19, 2018 11:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aqualilith09:
Vedic? Dunno much of it. Wheres a good place to download it.

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In spite of the fact this is a Vedic program, you do not need to know anything about Vedic to use it. The Shadbala rating (meaning six-pointed rating) is given in an easy to read graph that requires no acquaintance with Vedic at all and applies no matter what system you are used to.

http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/

Here is your Shadbala graph based on the birth data you gave. Notice it is only for the traditional 7 planets:

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted October 21, 2018 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
In spite of the fact this is a Vedic program, you do not need to know anything about Vedic to use it. The Shadbala rating (meaning six-pointed rating) is given in an easy to read graph that requires no acquaintance with Vedic at all and applies no matter what system you are used to.

http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/

Here is your Shadbala graph based on the birth data you gave. Notice it is only for the traditional 7 planets:

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posted October 21, 2018 01:33 PM            

The Sun's meaning is not different in Vedic. My Sun is very strong as well, which surprised me, because of a tendency to pigeonhole its meaning. Sun is the primary force of will developed in life on Earth/in this system. Its strength rating indicates that development.

What is most remarkable is the visible difference between Sun's strength and the much lower strength of Mercury, indicating that you've got some developing to do in the intellect/communication department. That's not a sideways insult to your intelligence, just that mind/communication needs more effort to develop those Mercury energies to bring them into relative balance with the rest of them, which are pretty even.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted October 21, 2018 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
Feb 18 1993 1:29PM Thunder Bay, Canada [/B]

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Also shows need for more Mercury development (intellect, communication). Sun pretty strong and Mars too, with everything else pretty balanced.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted October 22, 2018 03:50 PM            

That indicates Mercury's lower strength is due mostly to its sign placement in Pisces, but because you have those good aspects with the outer planets that are not included in the Shadbala rating, it actually deserves a higher rating. Those are good aspects.

Right now the Neptune transit may feel like too much Neptune/unclarity/unworldly energy, but I encourage you to use writing to process and/or meditation to let go of words and symbols for a period of time each day. Sometimes all we can do at first is take some deep breaths and intentionally let go of what we don't need to think about right now. As the thoughts come up, let them go.

This transit could allow insights you would not have had otherwise, but they probably won't come by thinking, but by allowing intuition to function.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted October 23, 2018 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Also shows need for more Mercury development (intellect, communication). Sun pretty strong and Mars too, with everything else pretty balanced.

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Using the birth information I entered:
Sun - 149
Moon - 138
Mars - 150
Mercury - 73
Jupiter - 130
Venus - 99
Saturn - 130

Based on these strengths, Mercury is my weakest planet. While I agree it's not my strongest planet, I'm not sure that rating is accurate. Either there's something I don't understand here or I somehow make exceptional use of Mercury considering its strength. I think my Vedic Mercury being in Pisces is probably why it has that rating, but I feel like my chart probably compensates somewhere that would increase the rating.

posted October 23, 2018 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
Using the birth information I entered:
Sun - 149
Moon - 138
Mars - 150
Mercury - 73
Jupiter - 130
Venus - 99
Saturn - 130

Based on these strengths, Mercury is my weakest planet. While I agree it's not my strongest planet, I'm not sure that rating is accurate. Either there's something I don't understand here or I somehow make exceptional use of Mercury considering its strength. I think my Vedic Mercury being in Pisces is probably why it has that rating, but I feel like my chart probably compensates somewhere that would increase the rating.

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That may be true, as with the kind of aspects to Mercury by outer planets in vansio's chart. One flaw of Shadbala is that outer planets are not considered at all. Therefore aspects involving to those planets are not counted.

Shadbala rating is not perfect. It includes a sub-calculation that rates planets higher as they increase in northern declination and subtracts from a base/default starting point (at 0° delination) the further planets go into southern declination. That is innately contradictory and another flaw. But it is only part of one rating in Shadbala called Kala Bala.

On the whole, Shadbala is still more accurate than any other strength rating system.

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Other than Mercury, I'm surprised with the rating for Sun, Moon, Mars, and Jupiter. Venus and Saturn are about where I expected.

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I was surprised by the higher rating of my Sun and lowest for Moon and Saturn. I'm still studying this rating system, its reasoning and where its cracks are that could be updated with the modern planets, etc.

Your ratings may not be quite as accurate as they should be because they depend at least a bit on house placement, relation to Asc/MC, which can sometimes be less reliable than you'd think. If the Asc is at an accurate degree the ratings will be more reliable, but no ratings system is perfect. Its just that this rating method is more thorough and has been built up more over time through Persian/Indian tradition than modern notions of planet strength based only on sign and house.

Remember, don't conflate strength with dignity. A planet can be in dignified position by sign, but not particularly strong because of other factors.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted November 10, 2018 12:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
In spite of the fact this is a Vedic program, you do not need to know anything about Vedic to use it. The Shadbala rating (meaning six-pointed rating) is given in an easy to read graph that requires no acquaintance with Vedic at all and applies no matter what system you are used to.

http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/

Here is your Shadbala graph based on the birth data you gave. Notice it is only for the traditional 7 planets:

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It’s not letting me download do you mind doing mine please? If you can thanks (: if not it’s okay
March 6, 1997 5:23am Los Angeles, California