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Lalafortunaea
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posted October 18, 2018 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guess is Pluto is involved. But where, and how, and what could make a secret come out, something we don't want to be known, even...

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posted October 18, 2018 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandra018     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i would say Uranus would need to be involved..in my experience in a challenged position, secrets come out..

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posted October 18, 2018 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
depends on what youre hiding. The situation would be reflected in the planets and aspects.

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hypatia238
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posted October 19, 2018 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
My guess is Pluto is involved. But where, and how, and what could make a secret come out, something we don't want to be known, even...

Tr truth was conjuncting 7th house ruler Pluto when my partner found out about my indiscretions.

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posted October 19, 2018 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Couple of months ago(forgot exactly) astroid Truth was Conjunct with my natal Pluto,Vertex and Jupiter(all in 6th H). I realized lot of Truth about my filthy work place and co-workers with two faces. My natal Truth in Pieces 15° in 10th H but Conjunct 1th house Cusp. Only Trine Mercury( Cancer 3rd H).

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posted October 19, 2018 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus,Pluto is involved.

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posted October 19, 2018 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. In a "friend's" (I use that term loosely) chart, he has truth square Neptune and square Jupiter. Plus oppo moon.

I've essentially labeled him a chronic or even pathological liar recently. The dude just can't freakin' be honest about anything to anyone. Mouth drips with his lies. People barely even wanna talk to him anymore because he just can't be honest and starts BSing

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posted October 19, 2018 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And something I just noticed is that R-Venus and truth are conjunct atm.

A girlfriend came out and told the truth about her horrible relationship with someone, and how he is being abusive with her, and how she has been taking it for all these years. No one knew just how bad it was until now.

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posted October 19, 2018 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Interesting. In a "friend's" (I use that term loosely) chart, he has truth square Neptune and square Jupiter. Plus oppo moon.

I've essentially labeled him a chronic or even pathological liar recently. The dude just can't freakin' be honest about anything to anyone. Mouth drips with his lies. People barely even wanna talk to him anymore because he just can't be honest and starts BSing


Check asteroid Lie for him.

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posted October 19, 2018 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Check asteroid Lie for him.


Square pluto and square mars.

Also went ahead and checked Swindle while I was at it. Conj Venus and Uranus.

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posted October 20, 2018 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Square pluto and square mars.

Also went ahead and checked Swindle while I was at it. Conj Venus and Uranus.


Interesting, do you know his chart ruler? Does lie make tighter aspects or does truth make the tighter aspects?

Bc it gets tricky when both play out in the natal. I have truth conjunct venus exact in the 8th trine exact my AC but lie conjuncts my chart ruler by 4 degrees in the 12th.

I feel ultimately we all lie sometimes, at least to avoid getting in trouble or becoming a target, in other words to protect ourselves but some people lie not out of necessity but as a habit or to make themselves look better, self worth issues ect..

Everyone has lie and truth fall in a house, maybe the house it falls in represents areas we tend to lie and tell the truth.

Like with me I have lie in the 12th conjunct Jupiter/Uranus by 4 degrees. I tend to lie to not get in trouble and only when absolutely necessary, to protect myself but outside of that I usually can be compulsively honest like I am honest about things here in Lindaland that the majority of people would omit and not be open about, most people would keep that stuff private bc I know the things I share are not unique to me but is taboo. I have truth conjunct venus in the 8th trine AC, I have been honest about my love life here even if it is taboo.Add my Venus rules my MC.

With Truth conjunct Venus and Mars in the 8th trine AC I seem very truthful and authentic and for the most part I am, I project truthfulness. I definitely have the courage to talk about taboo topics (8th) that impact the realm of sex (mars) and relationships (venus) and be very real about it in spite of social programming to respond to such topics a certain way.

I can definitely see how Truth is playing out in my chart. Maybe when I do lie it tends to stay hidden since it falls in the 12th and is very intuitive to protect myself, otherwise is avoided since I truly prefer to practice honesty.

So I wonder if this person you speak off has Lie at angle like the AC, MC or even DC somewhere that is easy for people to spot and see and that strengthens his need to lie. If lie aspects his mars and pluto and he has mars and pluto at an angle that would make sense too.

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posted October 21, 2018 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Huldra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is the first time i checked out these asteroids.
truth is 5' virgo, opposite my moon 2' pisces. but lie is also close with 9' pisces.


truth is approaching my pluto, and the last two weeks i have been focused on finding out what is truth and what is illusions within myself and my life perspective.

but i also feel like i have to control my strong neptune, lie is approching him.
it feel like a test, to see if i can stay true to myself and my lifequest/motives.

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posted October 21, 2018 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto (secrets) and Jupiter (truth) ime

Also this metoo movement caused a lot of secrets about tv-presenters, journalists, celebrities etc brought out to the light. A lot of Harvey Winstean stuff with men who had raped and abused women systematically for years.

Countries have natal charts too, one can look them up at "Astrotheme". Sweden has Virgo rising.

This started when Transit Jupiter was in Scorpio in Swedens natal charts 3rd house (media, tv, newspapers, news).

Transit Pluto was conjunct natal Pluto in 4th house.

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posted October 21, 2018 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun hard transit to Pluto and Pluto to Sun.. I have seen it many times.

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posted October 21, 2018 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
Pluto (secrets) and Jupiter (truth) ime

Also this metoo movement caused a lot of secrets about tv-presenters, journalists, celebrities etc brought out to the light. A lot of Harvey Winstean stuff with men who had raped and abused women systematically for years.

Countries have natal charts too, one can look them up at "Astrotheme". Sweden has Virgo rising.

This started when Transit Jupiter was in Scorpio in Swedens natal charts 3rd house (media, tv, newspapers, news).

Transit Pluto was conjunct natal Pluto in 4th house.


Yeah IF I remember correctly it all started when Jupiter entered the sign of scorpio pretty much.

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posted October 21, 2018 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah IF I remember correctly it all started when Jupiter entered the sign of scorpio pretty much.

Yes correct! Man was that Jupiter all about dark sh...t! (granted pluto and saturn etc was in it too)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does not jupiter also stand for "justice"?

This time women victims (scorpio, female sign. and scorpio: sexual themes, victims of crime and sexual abuse) made their voices be heard and got justice.


I loved how things enfolded! As a plutonian, it felt so cleansing! To see dirtbags brought out to light like that, by a force they could not fight or talk their way out of!

I'm not naive enough to believe this will bring change for women in general in our societies, but anyways...

I have a new respect for this jupiter-scorpio combo energy I tell you that!


And... I'm super excited for jupiter to enter Saggittarius! Yay!

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posted October 25, 2018 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 26, 2018 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot to add

Uranus on Mercury- blurting something that is supposed to stay hidden.

Pluto on Mercury- Being told something and feeling obligated to try to conceal it.

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