posted October 24, 2018 07:28 PM            

I was thinking about resilient people. I am an avid reader. I used to read only fiction, my favorite author being Stephen King. However, I read the autobiography of Gelsey Kirkland, a famous ballerina. This book hooked me on autobiographies. I have read Steven Tyler’s, Mia Farrow’s and Eric Clapton’s, so far. I am currently reading Greg Allman’s.Afer I read a book, I check the natal chart of the author.

One thing I observe about many of these famous people is that I have had a worse childhood than many of them. How did I stay resilient, although I am not that resilient, lest I present myself as something I am not. However, if I told you all that I have been through, I think you would think I was resilient. Some of the aspects I list are from my chart and I will tell you when this is the case. Some are from the charts of others.

1. Asteroid Bellona Conjunct Mars(exact)

I just discovered that I have this. Bellona is the goddess of war. I can be very strong when I need to, although I have a Mars which does not do well with anger—-Mars in Cancer.

2. Sun Trine Uranus

This aspect confers brilliance without the excessive, electric racing monkey mind of Uranus in hard aspect i.e Uranus conjunct the Sun, oppose the Sun or square the Sun. Brilliance helps one to overcome because one can get lost in books, study subjects, have a genius bent with songwriting or other kinds of writing, for some examples. People who are resilient usually have escapes. Sun trine Uranus will, likely, have interesting escapes.

3.Moon Trine Uranus

This native can think for himself. More so is the fact that he can handle his emotions, even if the emotions are kind of whacky.

4.Pluto Trine the Sun

I have this. This aspects confers primal strength. It helps one be in touch with one’s basic, primal nature, as well as have an intuitive understanding of primal impulses, in general. The father may be a positive source of providing inner strength to the native.

5. Ninth House Stellium Without Saturn or Chiron

I have a Ninth House stellium in Gemini with the following planets—The Sun, Mercury and Venus. The South Node is also there.This stellium helps one to have many intellectual escapes. Escapes are important when one has a stressful childhood. This stellium will, likely, produce an avid reader.

6. Unaspected Venus

I have this aspect. This aspect confers easy social graces. If one is to escape a stressful childhood, one has to be able to make friends outside one’s home, so one has a place to which one can escape.

7. Moon trine Venus

This is a classic charm aspect. A person with this aspect will succeed well in social situations. Hence, he will be in the above category i.e able to escape his childhood home due to friendships with others.

8. A Chart Without Too Many Very Hard Aspects

I do find a great difference in the difficulty of charts. Sometimes, one needs to see the asteroids to see the struggles. This is the case for me. I have some heavy hitter “bad” asteroids, such as Sado conjunct the IC, exact. This shows a childhood in which I did have to struggle with sadism toward me from a family member. However, everyone does seem to have these kinds of struggles, although they do differ greatly.

I could say it like this. Everyone has some rotten fruit. For some, it is rotten apples. For some, it is rotten grapes. I hope you get the point.The people with very, very hard charts, such as a Grand Cross, may give up. I have one client who had this kind of hard chart and he did give up. This is not to say that everyone with a hard chart gives up. However, people with very difficult charts do seem to have a harder battle in life.

9.Pluto Trine Mercury

This aspect gives keen intuition. Keen intuition helps one to survive a difficult childhood because the native can see below the surface.

10.Pluto Conjunct the Ascendant

These natives seem to have an inherent strength. One can see their strength in the manner in which they conduct themselves.

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posted October 24, 2018 09:45 PM            

Hard charts gives one a steel spine as one is forced to learn to overcome that is.

posted October 24, 2018 09:47 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
People with easy charts ? Overcome what? If it's easy there is nothing to overcome.

Hard charts gives one a steel spine as one is forced to learn to overcome that is.

And how is a belladona going to war ?

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posted October 24, 2018 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You have a biased for trines....

Hard aspects gives people motivation to fight and work through stuff, overcome challenges etc, and trines can make people lazy so I don't understand why you associate trines with resilience.

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posted October 25, 2018 03:12 AM            

Although I must admit that it hasn't felt that hard. Well at least because I have had and still have tremendous support.

Moon trine Venus in 7th
Sun conjunct Jupiter in 9th

posted October 25, 2018 05:01 AM            

People have said "That is a REAL tough guy".´I know that he´s been through a lot, things that would make other individuals run away screaming so I´m inclined to agree....

Some would call him a "thug" and a "bad a**", but he is definitely a survivor of many things.

He´s got a T-Square with Pluto (10th H) squaring Saturn (1st H) and Mars (7th H).

posted October 25, 2018 05:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Having just easy aspects doesn't give anything towards overcoming things. In fact, it's known that people who have Grand Trines are often known to become lazy with whatever the Grand Trine involves because it comes so easy to them. Hard aspects make you work for that; they are the very struggles and issues we have to work through.

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posted October 25, 2018 01:25 PM            

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I have a lot of hard aspects in my chart. I'm more confident that those hard aspects are what's made me resilient. Without them, my struggles would not have helped me grow. I've experienced things that would freak other people out and break them down and I'm going to one day experience more things that would freak others out - including myself, especially at first. I can handle things most people can't. My hard aspects are the source of my inner strength, not my trines. I can't make lemonade with trines.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
1. Asteroid Belladona Conjunct Mars(exact)

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posted October 25, 2018 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I am a survivor, I have a Grand Cross

Although I must admit that it hasn't felt that hard. Well at least because I have had and still have tremendous support.

Moon trine Venus in 7th
Sun conjunct Jupiter in 9th

My mother,sisters and friends are my biggest supporters.

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Thank God for support! So you have the perfect combo for resilience, a grand cross which makes you a fighter and a great support system in place

I don't have soft aspects involving my Moon and I have a great support system though.

My sun and moon both square neptune yet my parents are the most supportive people ever, they are there in some real big crisis in my life.

My IC ruler is Mars conjunct Venus in the 8th perhaps that explains their deep love and loyalty towards me during times of crisis. I mean they are amazing. My parents definitely have my back during times of crisis.

posted October 25, 2018 01:50 PM            

Actually Bella conjunct Perseverantia form a tsquare with Jupiter conjunct Uranus opposite Chiron.

posted October 25, 2018 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Also Asteroid Belladona doesn't even exist. If it did it surely would've came up in a google search but nothing of the sort was found.

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posted October 25, 2018 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Yes don't forget Moon aspecting Saturn and Mars aspecting Saturn, especially Opposition and squares ime.

Very emotionally recellient people!

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My bro has Moon Opposite Saturn and Sun.

posted October 26, 2018 08:17 PM            

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