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Topic: Chiron Opposite Stellium
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manymoones Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted October 29, 2018 11:35 AM
Hello my friends <3Anyone have this aspect that would like to share how they feel it has played out in their lives? I have Chiron Rx in the 6th (Cancer) opposing Saturn, Venus, and NN in the 12th (Capricorn). I also have Uranus, Sun, and Neptune in the 12th but at earlier degrees. The nodes are about to enter Cap/Cancer and I also have my Saturn return to look forward to So I am sure I will have more to speak on in the coming months but was wondering if anyone has had a similar transit and would like to share their experience? What has Chiron represented for you? Any experiences with Chiron Rx in the 6th? Any and all thoughts are appreciated! Thank you <3 IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 6335 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 29, 2018 02:51 PM
Chiron/Saturn/Venus I see in a chart as representative of chronic pain associated with restrictions imposed by parents i.e either too strict.Or they rarely acknowledged the child's existence. So the child never felt loved or valuedWhen it is in Cancer,its likely the wound is that of abandonment or not being paid enough attention to. The only time that the child felt loved, is when they "achieved" something. So the child learns that their worth is attached to accolades. The Chiron addition could play up to feeling the pain of disapproval when the chart holder disappoints the parents or does not reach the goals that will have the parents give the native praise and affirmation. IP: Logged |
manymoones Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted October 29, 2018 04:22 PM
Thank you, Aries23Degrees! That is all very relatable. I had an absent parent growing up (addiction) and being the eldest child a lot of time went into caring for my younger siblings while recognition for my own accomplishments went on the backburner. I am very protective of them. When I went away to school I was no longer physically in their presence everyday and each one of them had some kind of struggle that presented itself (failing grades, depression) and I simply felt helpless - as if I abandoned them. I am still working through the pain/guilt this has caused me (no matter how unwarranted it is) and trying to help guide them on their own paths although we are no longer under one roof while allowing room for them to make their own mistakes, live and learn, and build lives that they are proud of. This seems like it could be a healing theme for me in the coming times. <3 <3 IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 6335 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 29, 2018 05:46 PM
Yes Saturn/Chiron definitely speaks of painful burdens that may have forced one to grow up quickly.The pain could be associated with authority figures. Or else the pain could be because of lack of support from them. Do you have Neptune on your Moon/Sun? IP: Logged |
manymoones Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted October 29, 2018 10:02 PM
Yes that definitely speaks to me. And indeed I do! Neptune is conjunct my Sun. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3622 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 30, 2018 12:03 AM
I am Chironic by nature, given Chiron's parallel to my Asc. However, the normal orbs for planets to not apply with an asteroid like Chiron, so unless the aspects you are talking about occur within 4° then they aren't there. It is possible the declinations show a more exact aspect as well. ------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 6335 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2018 09:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by manymoones: Yes that definitely speaks to me. And indeed I do! Neptune is conjunct my Sun.
I knew it!!! I am also Neptune/Sun. The closest aspect being 0.05 to exact. And I have a similar theme My Sun inconjuncts Chiron too by 0.04 close to exact. My pain came from the Father. It was tough because I felt very distant from him. Still do. But I have learned to deal. I also have Venus-Saturn conjunct. So I understand how hard someone with this aspect can be on themselves. Add to that your Cap Sun being the "responsible" personality. I wonder if Uranus also conjuncts Sun? Because that would propel the "belonging nowhere" feeling that Neptune has started. I assume your 2nd house cusp is in Pisces? Where is your Moon? The Ic/its ruler and aspects suggests early environmental circumstances that may have shaped you. Whilst the Moon suggests your exclusive internal nature. I also look to the 2nd house with regards to ones sense of psychological stability and aspects to it. IP: Logged |
manymoones Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted October 30, 2018 11:17 AM
Thank you, Kannon! I am certainly not well-versed in declinations and appreciate the information. Definitely something I will look more into to gain a better understanding. Here is my chart using placidus house system: [IMG]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Manymoones/44553F80 -79A4-42D9-9947-DBC7DA02785D_zpsnnlqlx9u.jpeg[/IMG]
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manymoones Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted October 30, 2018 12:09 PM
Aries23Degrees you are spot on Uranus is indeed conjunct my Sun and I can completely relate to the feeling of not belonging anywhere. I have been on a journey looking for my place in the world. Astrology and the art of self-study has been very cathartic for me and makes me feel like I’m on the right path. I am so happy there is so much to learn so it can be a lifelong journey My father was also the source of my pain. It was a very weird dynamic holding more responsibility than your own parent when you are only a child yourself, but hey perhaps that’s why I came in hot with all that Capricorn lol! It seems we have some common themes in our lives. I do believe we “grow through what we go through” so some days are easier than others but I think we come out stronger in the end My moon is in Leo conjunct Jupiter and opposite ASC. I linked my chart in the above post for a visual. I many times credit my Leo moon with helping me remain light-hearted and positive. I did not know that about the IC! Looks like my IC is conjunct Mars. Thanks for pointing that out, that is very interesting! Thank you so much for your responses and insights. It truly means a lot to me! IP: Logged |
Huldra Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted October 30, 2018 06:00 PM
i have wondered of the same things . thanks for making this post.i dont have chiron opposion a stellium, i think. but my saturn and uranus is in (a wide) conjunction with my sun stellium. so it kind of hits like a domino effect, i feel. my father was also my wound. i can realy relate to what you write about yourself and your path. since my chiron is in 9th house, and the opposition is in the 3, i also feel that i have trouble communicating, and trusting my inner knowledge. i have to think about this a litle bit more. some new perspectives came up.
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Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3622 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 30, 2018 06:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by manymoones: Thank you, Kannon! I am certainly not well-versed in declinations and appreciate the information. Definitely something I will look more into to gain a better understanding. Here is my chart using placidus house system: [IMG]http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Manymoones/44553F80 -79A4-42D9-9947-DBC7DA02785D_zpsnnlqlx9u.jpeg[/IMG]
Yes, Chiron is very much opposite Venus-Saturn (but there is no contra-parallel or parallel by Chiron 13N39). I think Aries23 hit on the parental themes that come with this type of aspect.
------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |
manymoones Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted November 02, 2018 01:29 PM
Huldra, I am glad you could resonate with this post. It is always good to know we are never alone and that there is always someone we can talk to who will be able to understand. You and I both have a lot of Capricorn in our charts, and I bet the Chiron opposite Saturn is a key contributor in some of our experiences. It is so interesting to me seeing how such aspects play out in the lives of individuals yet how similar the underlying themes can be - no matter the perceived distance among us. IP: Logged |
manymoones Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted November 02, 2018 01:34 PM
Kannon, Thank you! That is good to know. I am also very excited to expand my learning in order to better understand parallel/contra-parallel as that is not something I have experience with thus far. Much appreciated! IP: Logged |