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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 11, 2018 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was perusing a book online by James.R Lewis "The Astrology book: The encyclopedia of heavenly influences" and still deciding whether I should buy it.

I like buying the "beginner" books as they have less sophistication and allow me to rethink and re-look at old perspectives of planetary energies,houses,aspects etc.

What got my attention however, was the line "astrologers interpret mutual reception as a conjunction between the two planets involved."

I didn't know this.

So I kept reading that they are in fact even more "beneficial" than the conjunction as they usually involve two houses that work in unison instead of two energies being in one.

I have Venus in Scorpio,Mars in Libra. And in traditional astrology,Venus & Mars are in mutual reception.So according to this book, Venus and Mars are conjunct.

I have always known that the 7th house has Venus as ruler and sub-influence of Mars/Pluto because of being in Scorpio.

As is the case with the 8th house ruled by Mars/Pluto-since Mars is in Libra, has Venus influence.

But I have never thought them conjunct. What do you guys with mutual reception planets think? This goes for modern/traditional rulers too. Do you think that the "conjunct" aspect comparison between them is valid?

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posted November 11, 2018 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ve read that its better than conjuction,but i have also read that it needs an aspect between those planets so to become stronger.I have jupiter in aries ,mars in pisces,mutual reception but no aspect between them.Also ive read that the stronger planet benefits the other more,gives more of its characteristics to the other.For example if moon in sagittarius and jupiter in cancer,jupiter has more power since it is in its exaltation.

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posted November 11, 2018 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now in my case it begs the question: do minor aspects count? Mine is a semi-sextile aspect less than 1 degree between Venus in Sco and Mars in Libra.

But do you in any case recognize the "working together" of these two? This despite not being in aspect?

The conjunction of Mars/Jupiter suggests one who infuses a martial approach to their belief system.

This can manifest as a belief in a "God" that is strongly masculine and very "Old testament" on nature i.e: slays enemies, defends his "people"vigorously, oriented towards sacrifice/blood and observations of rituals and very masculine in essence.

I see Mars/Jupiter types as those who argue their point to the extreme. Religious extremism or very absolute political beliefs of "right" and "wrong".

I have the sextile aspect between Mars and Jupiter. I see this present in me too. Although it has lessened somewhat as I have gotten older and more accepting that the world is to others very different from how I see it.

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posted November 11, 2018 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me ,minor aspects count.So in your case maybe its about a good balance between feminine ,male part of yourself whatever that includes?it helps you not to be too passive or too agressive maybe?To answer your question i believe strongly in God,but in a good God is same for all people ,no matter of religions.I have some very strong opinions which dont change ,cause ithink tney are based in fairness and equality the way i understand them,so maybe jupiter gives that essence to mars...actually an example of how i see that reception ,is like playing a fair game with an equal coplayer ,sometimes i dont mind to lose.

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posted November 11, 2018 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh OK I see. For you its all about the self meeting up with the greater good. I get it.

I also think what you said there about balance is true. The problem with me could be that I emphasize the Mars too much(freedom from social restraints woven into personal relationships).

Hmmmm....

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posted November 11, 2018 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes me wonder if your mars or venus aspects uranus,and if mutual reception affects aspects that these 2 planets with reception make with other planets.My mars which makes reception with jupiter ,conjucts moon,so i wonder if jupiter affects moon cause of that reception with mars.

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posted November 11, 2018 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that the mutual reception is exclusive to only the two planets Mars and Jupiter. I don't think it involves the Moon.

But I do think that a planet with Sag/Gem energy will affect all 3(Moon/Mars & Jup)

Uranus is a lonesome planet in my chart. It makes a minor aspect to the Moon(Bi-Quintile). And then a wide (5 degree) opposition with North node.

Venus/Mars are joined by Moon/Mercury however: Venus trines Moon and Moon squares Mars. Mercury sextiles Venus and Mercury squares Mars.

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posted November 11, 2018 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So i guess mercury connects even more mars venus,adding mercurian elements at what mars -venus express.By the way,i have noticed that in this site people dont use to upload their charts ,which i find it weird,i only see composite and synastry charts here.

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posted November 11, 2018 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in Aquarius and Uranus in Capricorn. They aspect each other in my natal chart, but if we consider these two planets to be in mutual reception, there could be other factors in my chart that manifest similarly to the conjunction.

Saturn conjunct Uranus doesn't have enough information on the Internet for me to tell if the aspect directly applies me. That being said, I'm able to work at my best when I'm my own boss and I choose the structure I'm using for my job/career. Even when I follow existing systems, the way I use those existing systems can sometimes differ from how they're usually used. This may apply to astrology as well. There are situations where I'll use wider orbs than I'd normally consider.

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posted November 11, 2018 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kirki:
So i guess mercury connects even more mars venus,adding mercurian elements at what mars -venus express.By the way,i have noticed that in this site people dont use to upload their charts ,which i find it weird,i only see composite and synastry charts here.

That's beause there is a thread available for posting personal charts I.e "Interpersonal astrology" . So people are very careful not to post personal charts here because the thread will be closed and moved to interpersonal astrology.

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posted November 11, 2018 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lerena

I think it could be because Saturn/Uranus are less personal I guess.

What houses are they in?

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posted November 11, 2018 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@Lerena

I think it could be because Saturn/Uranus are less personal I guess.

What houses are they in?


That's basically another way of saying certain combinations between planets, especially the conjunction between some of them, are rare. Most aspects between Saturn and Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto have a limited amount of information so it's likely I'll have to become satisfied with my own answers with the less personal aspects. Unfortunately, It's not always something I'm comfortable with, mainly because I like to compare my experiences and knowledge with what's out there and it's going to take a long time to accept that I can't always do that.

I have Uranus in 2nd house and Saturn in 3rd house.

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posted November 11, 2018 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Pisces and Jupiter in Aries mutually receptive. No aspects between the two but they are both angular house rulers. I don't really know how to read a mutual reception. I've heard of it before and tried to look this pairing up before but nothing really seems in-depth enough about it online. Maybe someone has written a book on mutual receptions, but I couldn't find one from the little research I did on it months ago.

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posted November 12, 2018 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lerena

Uranus in 2nd and Saturn in 3rd hmmmmm...

If this reception works like a conjunction , then this would mean that Uranus in 3rd and Saturn in 2nd would also apply. Perhaps a sub influence.

Uranus in 2nd- erratic money flow. Difficulty in getting finances to settle predictably.

But with Saturn in 2nd, this means cautious spending and a risk-averse approach to spending. Saving is a sure way of avoiding financial binds.

Saturn in 3rd limits communication to the tangible. Small talk irritates these natives.

Uranus in 3rr does not make things all that better ime. What happens is that misunderstandings can happen a lot and this can feel just as limiting as when Saturn is there.

The real differences being that Uranus in 3rd tends to make one interested in futuristic concepts, gadgets and electronics.

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posted November 12, 2018 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@capricornchesricty

I think astrofix has some interesting information. Its more conceptual really. But I like how they confront the subject by giving aspects keywords.

Try looking up Mars/Jupiter aspects on there.

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posted November 12, 2018 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you guys for engaging me in this discussion. I am still exploring this discovery.

When I had a reading done years back, an astrologer did mention the mutual reception of Venus/Mars. But I couldn't really understand what that means.

But I do like the idea of Ven/Ma conjunction

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