posted November 16, 2018 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
It depends on the scenario, are we talking at home, mars rules my IC and at home I will defend myself and not back down but Venus rules my MC, 5th and 6th so at work I tend be more Venus in Leo than Mars in Leo, I will command respect and assert myself if needed but be more Venusian in my strategy but still have my mars in Leo presence in the 8th to support me in this. I never resort to violence in any scenario, I feel that is beneath me and it will be lowering myself. I don't know if this is mars in Leo feeling too regal to fight and resort to violence or the fact that Venus conjuncts my Mars or that my DC is ruled by mercury and I believe confrontation should not escalate to violence. I really feel is beneath me to go there and will not but if you start hitting me I will defend myself, at that point I have no choice.

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For the purposes of this conversation we are talking about anywhere that conflict may arise. I believe we share the same MC/IC. I tend to be more peaceful in public and aggressive at home but a confrontation in either environment could lead to the same outcome. I think the “not resorting to violence” may only be partly related to your Leo mars. Since Leo doesn’t just jump into any physical confrontation for stupid reasons, it makes sense that you would need something to be significantly important to you (such as your physical safety) before you crossed that line. But I also think that other aspects influence your attitude towards nonviolence as well. Being that you tend to be more Venusian with your conflicts, could this have anything to do with the degrees of each of those planets (mars and Venus)? Could the degree of the planets affect their ability to be dominant in your personality? Also I would think moon signs may play a part in how you handle things. My moon is in Aries. While I don’t think it’s appropriate to jump straight in to violence as a first resort, the THOUGHT of smashing faces is always there… A lot of the time I think my moon is like a match and my mars is like a powder keg when I’m confronted by perceived threats.

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my older brother has mars in Leo (my mercury is there... I’m a Virgo sun Aries moon like you, different other planets though) and he tends to be loud and yell but is also prone to violence especially when he was younger

we have a fight the first thing he wants to do is go take it outside and have some one on one brawl because if he can’t "win" a discussion or anything really then it's a matter of him trying to show dominance in some other manner

Which is animalistic in a sense...

He’s the only Leo mars I can think of currently

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Lol I have been guilty of this when I was younger. That mars in Leo energy can be tough for your people to work through. When you don’t know how to use your words then the only other option you can see is the physical side of things.

I can also see things from YOUR point of view as my mercury is also in Leo and I know just how easy it is to dominate and win verbal conflicts with people who are not as blessed as we are in the mercury department. Seems as though you got the verbal strength and your brother got the physical strength. Do you happen to know what his mercury sign is?

posted November 16, 2018 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
My little sis has Sun in Scorpio square her Mars in Leo. My Father has Merc,Mars,Ura, Pl in Leo. And a Libra Sun ex of mine also has Mars in Leo.

I think Mars in Leo to be quite sensitive actually. And many DO NOT have the bravado that is often spoke of in the descriptions ime. Although there is arrogance if Pluto aspects Mars (my Dad being an example of such).

I don't see them losing their cool much (again unless Uranus/Pluto is in adverse aspect to Sun/Moon or Mars). But I do see them using phrases like "you are not worth of my time" or "that's beneath me" etc. Lol

Curiously,I have Mars,Saturn,Pluto and DSC in Leo in the Draconic chart. And to be honest, I was having the most trouble "recognizing" this energy in me.

What I do see however, is dignity and pride in all Leo Mars natal folks. And a real sense of self importance.

But this is not in a conceited way. What I mean is that Mars in Leo believes that they deserve respect and to be treated decently-whether they are garbage collectors or CEO's.

You may say that this is true with us all. But to Mars in Leo,it is even more so because they attach ego(Leo) to action(Mars). Every action. So they absolutely hate to "explain" themselves to anyone. And working with others can be stressful as it requires getting all their commitments before proceeding.

So there are likely to be bumps in relating with management when it comes to performance appraisals or related work issues. An unwillingness to see that they could be wrong(esp when Pluto/Sat aspects Mars)

Their worst jobs could in fact be working under someone they deem "beneath them". As this could be hell on earth as the Mars in Leo list usually accompanies many names of those "not on par".

So even Mom and Dad must watch how they articulate themselves or approach Mars in Leo children. As this Mars(like Cancer)is very easily offended and antagonised(even more so than when Sun is in Leo)

But unlike Mars in Cancer,they do not bear a grudge and want to ground the beef. They don't whip a dead horse. Nor do they store anger.

There is often an inner perfectionist and (unless Moon in Virg/Cap or Virgo/Cap elsewhere)less willingness to do the hard work themselves I.e Delegation is their game. And an image I have of Leo Mars, is the mafia boss who hires henchmen to "bring" people to them. They do not do it themselves.

They usually first sulk or withdraw when offended(like Cancer).Then they become very icy and distant if the party does not admit they injured them.

After which, they become enraged and load off all their anger on you verbally- usually in a very loud, theatrical and forceful way. But I have seldom seen them violent.

Typically speaking,if they are violent (barring Pluto/Uranus aspects). Its likely going to be quick- as Leo finds physical violence "beneath them" and "savage". They would rather another does that for them. But not them.

They are however not averse to physical intimidation or threats of violence. But they don't extend the emotion of anger as it is very much opposed to the "ray of sunshine" that they know themselves to be.

The ones I know are even more "Leo" in their mannerism than Leos curiously. In that the benevolence,joi de vivre nature is expressed most explicitly when Mars is in Leo ime.

Donald Trump is an excellent example of Leo energy (Asc/Mars). As he thinks himself very much benevolent, just and demonstrating leadership.

Try to interrupt or oppose his views, he attacks. He will even intimidate and threaten critics. But he is generous to those who acknowledge how wonderful and great he is.

Mars in Leo has trouble differentiating whether its their heart or ego that is hurt in most situations. To them, both are really one of the same.

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A lot of what you say is very true and does hit home. I think it’s only natural that a sign that puts its ego/pride in everything would be sensitive. Threats (real and perceived) to the ego are normally not taken lightly by any planet with Leo energy. The arrogance portion of it doesn’t really need any influences outside of Leo. If Leo is influencing a planet then the ego will be more present in that aspect.

Due to Leo being more level headed than for example Aries, they don’t need to lose their cool. There are things that Leo must find important before it will invest its energy. While it is a fire sign it still has its main goal of shining brightly and having fun with others.

I have definitely had issues with having to explain myself to people who I thought were lower than me. But I figured that was more linked with my mercury Leo. I don’t think the Leo energy intends to be conceited, I thinks it’s more of an “I know whats best ”or “wise old lion” type of issue. When you have people who clearly don’t know what they’re doing try to question the wise old lion then you get anger/attitude. This issue is a lot worse when the native is younger or doesn’t have much communication experience. But once they get some social experience under their belts then they can see that not everyone thinks the way they do. They may actually be right about the issue but they will be able to excursive more patience. I’ve had this issue at work, with family, elders, it takes work to let people see that my Leo energy is wiser and smarter than them

When it comes to Leo and grudges I think this depends on if they can not only express their grievances, but also satisfy their ego. If either one of those two things is not addressed then I believe the mars in Leo energy will hold on to the problem until it is resolved. I think this ties back to picking and choosing which conflicts Leo gets in to because they know they will be in it for the long haul. Why get into an issue for something that you may not care enough about to see to the end?

The perfectionist angle I like to think comes from the fact that Leo wants the finished product to be adored and admired. The less perfect the work is the more it is less likely to receive the attention that Leo wants. Because Leo is able to rally people behind them and they understand that a pride of lions gets better results, they can tend to use the delegation tactics to get them to their prize. I REALLY like that “mafia boss” analogy. Paints the perfect picture.

The withdrawing aspect probably is more of an “I can’t believe they had the nerve to do this to me and they still haven’t apologized for it. WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE? THEY DON’T KNOW WHO THEYRE MESSING WITH” kind of mindset. Becoming Icey is just a way to let the inner fire build up. Got to let that ego get pumping.

I’ve also heard the expression that mars in Leo people are more Leo-like that actual sun Leo’s as well. But this could be because it is Leo that we are seeing as their main method of action while sun in Leo may have other influences for their method of action.

posted November 16, 2018 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Stellia:
I'm a Leo Mars, and I'm loving this thread as I've been thinking about this myself, recently.

Further to what everyone else has said, the 'how' of Leo mars is the drama. They may hang back and bide their time, they may try and charm their way through a challenge. But when it comes to taking action, you'll know it's been done.

Think grand gestures, dramatic confrontation, and clever wordplay with a smile but a crystal clear message. I'm the royalty here, you should be treating me/my people better.

It's not arrogance per se - just a solid gold pride underneath that hurts a Leo Mars if flouted.

Granted my Leo Mars is bigger than most (said the Leo Mars ha-ha) - it's tightly conjunct my North Node, conjunct my Jupiter (3d, out of sign) - but that's how I see it.

Oh and it's in my 7th house. Guys who finish things off with a touch of flair are very appealing to me ha-ha!

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“The 'how' of Leo mars is the drama? ……….Think grand gestures, dramatic confrontation, clever wordplay with a smile but a crystal clear message”

Reading this type of comment is what got me thinking about mars in Leo in the first place. I can definitely recognize that we will be loud and proud with our aggression. But when I would read those things it didn’t cover all aspects of fighting in my mind. For example: being loud and showy may work in a verbal argument but how does this work for physical confrontation. If we roar loud enough will our opponent just faint from the might of our magnificent vocal ability? Of course they will because we are mars in Leo.

But seriously, I think Leo has a way of adapting to the way it addresses an issue. And that may have been why it was so hard to pinpoint how Leo goes about its business. Pride/ego is always at the core of mars in Leo fighting but what it does to reclaim its fame is what changes depending on the situation.

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Originally posted by Odette:
It’s kind of similar to Mars in Aries, but more dignified. So Mars in Leo is also a “fighter”.

Leo is a social sign... and in my experience they garner support and get a lot of people on their side when they’re fighting for something, or against something.

This can happen within minutes, hours, days or months... depending on the context and situation.

Leo Mars is almost never on their own. They have a team of people around who are happy to be “right behind them”... even if they’re people they only just met.

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This is what I’ve come to recognize as well. Mars in Aries seems to fight for the sake of fighting, and jumps in head first. While Leo tends to fight for more noble reasons (even if that noble reason is driven by ego…) because Leo can recognize the advantages of working in a group they have no problems rallying support. They have the ability to communicate to a wide range of people and motivate them to work for the cause…. “Cause” Leo said so

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Originally posted by Morrigan:
Hey, CertifiedAwesome! Love your name, btw.

That's a really good question, and one that's often stumped me.

So far, I've seen two main types of Leo mars people --

1. The Delegators - as one would expect, these people don't get their hands dirty. They do make things happen, because they are after all, a fire mars. But they don't do it themselves. Very charming in the way they pawn things off to other people, so they don't notice.

2. The Task-masters: These are the ones serious about building something all by themselves. They take great pride in their work, but you won't see them sweat. You'll only see the end results. For them, competence is the goal - without any visible struggle. They'll be dignified through it all, and have a smooth climb to the top. No-one would even question who's the leader, they'll have proved it beyond a doubt.

I guess that's why the "how" is so elusive. Because they don't want anyone to see them work! They want everyone to see what they can achieve. The product is on display, not the process. Because that's not 'cool' and Leo's gotta do everything with style, right?

Which makes for a better show - a spectacular shot of a skyscraper somebody designed or the countless hours they spent hunched over the drawing board to make it?

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Lol thank you Morrigan. My Leo placements are blushing with joy.

Good observation on seeing both of these types of mars in Leo. Personally I think each mars in Leo has the ability to be both types, it just depends on the task at hand. For me, I tend to be the taskmaster. I like to do most things on my own so that when the praises and admiration come, I will be the only one taking credit. I’m usually forced to ask for help if a project is too big and even then I still try to do most of the work myself. Ohhhh but when I want something from someone I tend to lay on the charm. I know I shouldn’t use my powers for evil but Leo gets what Leo wants.

I can definitely see how mars in Leo is only interested in showing the finished result and not letting anyone see how much they actually worked. I never thought about it like that until now. Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!
I do have a great time showing off the finished results of hard work and then making it SEEM like it was nothing even though I spent countless hours hunched over trying to make everything work out.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
we don't want anyone to see us work! haha

Maybe is more like we like to have fun and work smart, as in get good results with the least amount of effort so we still look good.

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posted November 17, 2018 01:49 AM            

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Originally posted by CertifiedAwesome:

For the purposes of this conversation we are talking about anywhere that conflict may arise. I believe we share the same MC/IC. I tend to be more peaceful in public and aggressive at home but a confrontation in either environment could lead to the same outcome. I think the “not resorting to violence” may only be partly related to your Leo mars. Since Leo doesn’t just jump into any physical confrontation for stupid reasons, it makes sense that you would need something to be significantly important to you (such as your physical safety) before you crossed that line. But I also think that other aspects influence your attitude towards nonviolence as well. Being that you tend to be more Venusian with your conflicts, could this have anything to do with the degrees of each of those planets (mars and Venus)? Could the degree of the planets affect their ability to be dominant in your personality? Also I would think moon signs may play a part in how you handle things. My moon is in Aries. While I don’t think it’s appropriate to jump straight in to violence as a first resort, the THOUGHT of smashing faces is always there… A lot of the time I think my moon is like a match and my mars is like a powder keg when I’m confronted by perceived threats.

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I have Venus in Leo at 23d52 and Mars in Leo at 24d49 forming a grand trine with Neptune and Compassion with Pluto sextile both Venus conjunct Mars and Neptune at GC completing a kite.

My moon is in pisces in the 3rd house
Square Neptune.

posted November 17, 2018 04:07 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Venus and jupiter maybe make your mars more lazy, like I have sun square neptune and mars conjunct venus sextile pluto and trine neptune and I don't feel I have a ton of energy either.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have Venus in Leo at 23d52 and Mars in Leo at 24d49 forming a grand trine with Neptune and Compassion with Pluto sextile both Venus conjunct Mars and Neptune at GC completing a kite.

My moon is in pisces in the 3rd house
Square Neptune.

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We have some similarities
Pisces Moon here in 9th H, Leo Venus 23, Leo Mars almost 22, Leo Jupiter 14, all in 2nd H and square Pluto.

Mars in Leo by itself is supposed to give me tons of energy, let alone with the Pluto square..

I am also not a person that likes to fight and stuff I want mental fights not physical/emotional ones otherwise I'm not interested. Don't get confused though, I'm not scared of physical fights but they never satisfy me, I find them silly and pointless.
I'm not violent at all but I do revenge when someone does smth to me on purpose and it's quite bad. Which is rare.
I think the house plays an important role because I love and crave whatever 2nd H represents (money, food, materials) and I don't have them even though I have the two benefics in there.

Sun is in Cancer in 12th H opposite Neptune and Uranus that sit on my DSC.
So yeah lots of Neptune.

If I could I would spend my life in bed that is how dead I feel. I dom't think you are that bad right?

posted November 17, 2018 09:59 AM            

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Originally posted by CertifiedAwesome:

Lol I have been guilty of this when I was younger. That mars in Leo energy can be tough for your people to work through. When you don’t know how to use your words then the only other option you can see is the physical side of things.

I can also see things from YOUR point of view as my mercury is also in Leo and I know just how easy it is to dominate and win verbal conflicts with people who are not as blessed as we are in the mercury department. Seems as though you got the verbal strength and your brother got the physical strength. Do you happen to know what his mercury sign is?

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https://imgur.com/a/iRhbbou his chart

the issue is he doesn't know how to use words with anyone, he's threatened my fiancee on multiple occasions, random strangers etc and is immediately aggressive often

he walks around looking for fights and picks them

he's demanding and expects eveeyone else to do things for him and serve him etc etc etc

he is physically stronger than me yeah, but that's not exactly hard i have chronic illness and im short and skinny so i have no doubt most people could take me

however (and this is a legit real example) he's threatened to do **** like toss me out of his car and beat the **** out of me while screaming in my face for an entire drive because he volunteered to give me a ride (without me asking him for one and with someone else offering and him insisting) only to pick me up and scream at me for how inconvenient it was for him to have done it in the first place because when i sat down in the car i said "what's wrong?" and then didnt just sit there while he screamed at me

when i've gone to his job (him and my fiancee work together so i go to see her) i'll have his coworkers walking up to me to complain to me about him, his temper. the way he treats everyone etc

the leo mars a lot of people here describe isnt at all what i grew up with

he likes attention, he does things to get it, and sulks if he doesnt

but i cant relate all the positives to him, and i actually dont know anyone who would

not even our mother

edit: that all being said i think his sidereal is more fitting, heavy virgo mars in cancer

he likes making scenes too btw, loves it, and likes to swerve his car around in traffic while screaming if hes arguing with someone in his car

ive seen him hit at least one ex etc etc etc

my mind is seriously blown by all the talk about nobility and so on without anyone bringing up the negatives (and when they do words like "noble" and so on are still attached which just...no)

also the physical violence between us was mostly when i was a child/preteen (7 year age gap between us though) so he's eased up a bit but not enough really

and if it's not directed at people it's at things

he put a hole through the door of my first apartment (to show me what he wanted to do to my face of course) because he asked me if he could stop by and shower and leave things with me for a party that'd be gone at 12 the next day

after 12 he showed up, i told him i had things to do and only one set of keys so i couldnt leave them with him and i hadnt offered to stay in all day that day for him (i was home the day before to do him a solid) and gave him a time he could come back that i would be that was too late for him

this was met with yelling and then that

posted November 17, 2018 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
We have some similarities
Pisces Moon here in 9th H, Leo Venus 23, Leo Mars almost 22, Leo Jupiter 14, all in 2nd H and square Pluto.

Mars in Leo by itself is supposed to give me tons of energy, let alone with the Pluto square..

I am also not a person that likes to fight and stuff I want mental fights not physical/emotional ones otherwise I'm not interested. Don't get confused though, I'm not scared of physical fights but they never satisfy me, I find them silly and pointless.
I'm not violent at all but I do revenge when someone does smth to me on purpose and it's quite bad. Which is rare.
I think the house plays an important role because I love and crave whatever 2nd H represents (money, food, materials) and I don't have them even though I have the two benefics in there.

Sun is in Cancer in 12th H opposite Neptune and Uranus that sit on my DSC.
So yeah lots of Neptune.

If I could I would spend my life in bed that is how dead I feel. I dom't think you are that bad right?

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My moon in Pisces loves being in bed and watching shows but no, I can't do that 24/7, I like to work and have purpose, something that gives my life structure and meaning. I like driving around and getting out of the house too but enjoy staying in once a week and just been home. I like road trips and use to eat out a lot when I had more money, I like hiking and exploring new territory. I like grocery shopping.

posted November 17, 2018 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Mars in Leo is not aggressive though, you have Moon in Aries and mercury in Leo in addition to Mars in Leo, perhaps that has more to do with it. I have mercury in virgo and tend to use my words. Leo rules the 5th house, not war like Aries, Leo is the house of fun, recreation, hobbies, children, creativity, small businesses and ROMANCE, Leo rules fun and romance NOT WAR. Leo is a lover and fights for love.

An ex lover of mine got into a fight with a cop and he had moon in aries like you but conjunct Mars in aries exact. If his moon was squaring neptune though I bet he wouldn't have gotten into a fight with the cop but it was conjunct mars and he is an aquarius.

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my mars is capricorn, im not aggressive

the aggression im talking about is mymars in leo brother, i posted his chart and described his behavior

i wasnt the one hitting first, swerving cars, threatening people etc

that's all him

that's why i find it odd that everyone here talks about mars in leo like it's never a bad placement or doesnt have a lot of potential negatives when expressed poorly

edit: im pretty sure i was clear about who was who in my post, if i wasnt my bad, but i thought i had it...

the only thing i have in leo is mercury, and yeah i have an aries moon but i really prefer to avoid fighting, it's boring and stressful for the most part

posted November 17, 2018 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my mars is capricorn, im not aggressive

the aggression im talking about is mymars in leo brother, i posted his chart and described his behavior

i wasnt the one hitting first, swerving cars, threatening people etc

that's all him

that's why i find it odd that everyone here talks about mars in leo like it's never a bad placement or doesnt have a lot of potential negatives when expressed poorly

edit: im pretty sure i was clear about who was who in my post, if i wasnt my bad, but i thought i had it...

the only thing i have in leo is mercury, and yeah i have an aries moon but i really prefer to avoid fighting, it's boring and stressful for the most part

if i was going to go out of my to hurt someone i wouldnt do it physically, that kind of thing heals

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I was talking to certifiedawesome who has moon in aries and mercury in leo and Mars in leo, you have moon in aries opposite Venus which completely alters the expression of your moon in aries, I wasn't referring to you at all.

posted November 17, 2018 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I was talking to certifiedawesome who has moon in aries and mercury in leo and Mars in leo, you have moon in aries opposite Venus which completely alters the expression of your moon in aries, I wasn't referring to you at all.

As for your brother I will take a look at his chart now..wait where is his chart? I don't see it anywhere.

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yeah i figured that out just now (before i read what you said funny enough, i was about to correct myself before i saw your response) my bad, i've been tired all day from tripping yesterday, so i'm out of it

https://imgur.com/a/iRhbbou funny enough it was in my reply to certified awesome

though that being said ive seen violent leo mars in action so i'm inclined to think there's something

interestingly other than minor aspects my brother's mars is well aspected, better than mine

posted November 17, 2018 04:34 PM            

"Quintiles describe the creative/destructive processes in human life."

Also his mars is at 1 degree in leo perhaps that too has something to do with it. He is just getting use to the leo energy in this life so he is figuring it out and moon in sag is self righteous AF combined with Uranus ruling his chart making him rebellios and we have a recipe for someone who likes to start crap and gets lighted up easily. His moon in sag is squared by Jupiter multiplying his self righteous tendencies.

posted November 19, 2018 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have Venus in Leo at 23d52 and Mars in Leo at 24d49 forming a grand trine with Neptune and Compassion with Pluto sextile both Venus conjunct Mars and Neptune at GC completing a kite.

My moon is in pisces in the 3rd house
Square Neptune.

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Ok so it’s not necessarily the degrees. It’s the Neptune aspect in addition to your Pisces moon….

I really need to get my chart read so I can find out more about this stuff. I have no idea if I have grand trines, kites, trapezoids, cubes, etc. LOL

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
https://imgur.com/a/iRhbbou his chart

the issue is he doesn't know how to use words with anyone, he's threatened my fiancee on multiple occasions, random strangers etc and is immediately aggressive often

he walks around looking for fights and picks them

he's demanding and expects eveeyone else to do things for him and serve him etc etc etc

he is physically stronger than me yeah, but that's not exactly hard i have chronic illness and im short and skinny so i have no doubt most people could take me

however (and this is a legit real example) he's threatened to do **** like toss me out of his car and beat the **** out of me while screaming in my face for an entire drive because he volunteered to give me a ride (without me asking him for one and with someone else offering and him insisting) only to pick me up and scream at me for how inconvenient it was for him to have done it in the first place because when i sat down in the car i said "what's wrong?" and then didnt just sit there while he screamed at me

when i've gone to his job (him and my fiancee work together so i go to see her) i'll have his coworkers walking up to me to complain to me about him, his temper. the way he treats everyone etc

the leo mars a lot of people here describe isnt at all what i grew up with

he likes attention, he does things to get it, and sulks if he doesnt

but i cant relate all the positives to him, and i actually dont know anyone who would…………………

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Well that sucks. I’m sorry you have to go through that. Maybe it’s time to harness your mars in Capricorn and embrace your inner monster.
I don’t think his mars in Leo alone is responsible for his behavior. I think he has some other big aspects that are having a profound effect on him…… (Edit: hyapatia238 has provided some insight on this.)

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Mars in Leo is not aggressive though, you have Moon in Aries and mercury in Leo in addition to Mars in Leo, perhaps that has more to do with it. I have mercury in virgo and tend to use my words. Leo rules the 5th house, not war like Aries, Leo is the house of fun, recreation, hobbies, children, creativity, small businesses and ROMANCE, Leo rules fun and romance NOT WAR. Leo is a lover and fights for love.

An ex lover of mine got into a fight with a cop and he had moon in aries like you but conjunct Mars in aries exact. If his moon was squaring neptune though I bet he wouldn't have gotten into a fight with the cop but it was conjunct mars and he is an aquarius.

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posted November 19, 2018 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by CertifiedAwesome:

You are correct and I agree that mars Leo is not aggressive. In my personal belief, I see mars in Leo not as the aggressive initiator of conflict but more of the unyielding fighter who is acting in defense of self or those who cannot defend.
Lol I can only imagine the aggression that exists in a person who has anything that conjuncts Aries with Aries. Since my moon is square Neptune, I guess that means I won’t be fighting any cops.

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posted November 21, 2018 09:45 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Huh he has a few quintiles involving his Mars. Quintiles are a cross between a square and a trine, they have this drive to destroy in order to create, that is the energy behind it.

"Quintiles describe the creative/destructive processes in human life."

Also his mars is at 1 degree in leo perhaps that too has something to do with it. He is just getting use to the leo energy in this life so he is figuring it out and moon in sag is self righteous AF combined with Uranus ruling his chart making him rebellios and we have a recipe for someone who likes to start crap and gets lighted up easily. His moon in sag is squared by Jupiter multiplying his self righteous tendencies.

I feel his behavior can be described more by his moon in sag square Jupiter and Uranus ruling his chart more than by his mars.

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i dont tend to bother with more minor aspects since they generally dont show themselves as strongly as other areas of a chart

the moon **** though, yeah

it's funny though, he hates doing anything for anyone including himself

i prefer to do things on my own and for other people, i hate it when i need something from someone though with my fiancee i feel like there's a different sort of balance so i dont find that as grating ultimately

though i dont care for it, i would much rather take care of myself and everything else and not need anything whether or not i got it

when you need someone else youve put yourself at their mercy and it's a position i dont care for being in without extreme intimacy involved and even then i would never want to completely depend on anyone or be unable to do anything in return

so i find his willful helplessness intriguing along with all the anger

in all honest i havent analyzed his chart much, i glanced at it for a bit read a little then left it alone... none of my business and all that

same reason i dont read cards about other people and so on

because he's in my life directly it seems wrong to an extent

i can never really defend him when people say things that i know are true because i dont agree with his behavior, and we have nothing to say to each other though hes more interested in himself anyway talking to him is him waiting for his turn to speak he wants you to respond just so he can talk

i'll be honest, nearly all of the conversations with him ive paid so little attention i couldve been talking about everything

posted November 21, 2018 11:16 AM            

Quintiles are stronger than Sextiles but maybe you don't pay attention to sextiles.

Quintiles belong to the 5th harmonic
Sextiles belong to the 6th harmonic

posted November 21, 2018 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I love moon square neptune! I was with a moon in aries square neptune for about 4 months and we were very intune to each other. My ex too has moon square neptune, my prom date had moon conjunct neptune, in other words my favorite make out sessions are with people who have moon in hard aspect to neptune bc is like I merge with them and we are so intune to each other haha.

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I wonder why that is. What makes Neptune aspects appealing to you? Honestly I don’t understand Neptune as a whole. I have it in my first house and from what ive read its supposed to rule spirituality and higher states of consciousness. i don’t personally relate to any of it. Could this be because my moon squares Neptune?
If moon rules emotions and Neptune is spirituality, wouldn’t a square between them make the person not really inclined toward feeling special about spirituality?

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I could see how mars in Leo with a strong sag influence can be lazy, I am lazy but I also am hard working , its weird. I mean bc I did get a bachelor's degree and a master's degree and am able to sustain a job and do my job well and effectively so I have a hard working side too……..

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Would this laziness also apply to sag rising with leo mars? I mean I CAN be lazy but at the same time I cant rest if I know there is something that needs to be done. And im always looking for something that needs to be done.

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Certifiedawesome I agree that your screen name is awesome! is so leo, clearly you have a leo stellium.

I went for hypatia who is a female philosopher, I guess that fits my mercury in virgo in the 9th but I like yours more, it makes me smile every time I read it.

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Lol yesssssss…. Notice me, appreciate me, love me, just kidding lol …..
Actually I didn’t know if 3 planets was enough to be considered a stellium. Some people say 3 while others say 4. All in the 8th house. But before I found out more about astrology, I thought it was weird that I wasn’t as reserved as the typical description of virgo says I should have been. But I have to admit that I like leo. Others complain of the ego/pride thing, but leo influence is so fun. I need more of it because………………. Well because its AWESOME!

posted November 21, 2018 09:08 PM            

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Originally posted by CertifiedAwesome:

I wonder why that is. What makes Neptune aspects appealing to you? Honestly I don’t understand Neptune as a whole. I have it in my first house and from what ive read its supposed to rule spirituality and higher states of consciousness. i don’t personally relate to any of it. Could this be because my moon squares Neptune?
If moon rules emotions and Neptune is spirituality, wouldn’t a square between them make the person not really inclined toward feeling special about spirituality?

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Well I like it bc I have it myself I have moon square neptune and my moon is in pisces to top it off so I feel when I kiss someone with this same aspect we get lost in each other and connect emotionally very quickly bc we have similar styles of connecting and moon square neptune I feel can merge with others while they kiss, that is just my opinion, so when two people come together that have this ability to get lost in the other while they kiss is freaking AWESOME! F Yeah lol

Moon square neptune is intuitive too and yes tends to believe in a higher power but is more mystical than religious. I like to talk about other "planes of existence and dimensions" versus there is a "heaven and a hell" which sounds made up and dogmatic. Moon square Neptune understands life and spirituality is a mystery, not this certain thing we have figured out and wants to explore that mystery.

Well this is my opinion, I did not read any of this anywhere

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posted November 21, 2018 09:15 PM            

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Would this laziness also apply to sag rising with leo mars? I mean I CAN be lazy but at the same time I cant rest if I know there is something that needs to be done. And im always looking for something that needs to be done.

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Very interesting! I have sag rising too but my Sun in virgo squares NEPTUNE, I bet your Sun does not square neptune and also you have moon in aries and I have it in pisces so I think that is why you have a more pronounced sun in virgo bc what you just said sounds very sun in virgo and your moon is more action oriented while mine just wants to dream and can chill in bed and do the dishes tomorrow.

posted November 21, 2018 09:22 PM            

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Lol yesssssss…. Notice me, appreciate me, love me, just kidding lol …..
Actually I didn’t know if 3 planets was enough to be considered a stellium. Some people say 3 while others say 4. All in the 8th house. But before I found out more about astrology, I thought it was weird that I wasn’t as reserved as the typical description of virgo says I should have been. But I have to admit that I like leo. Others complain of the ego/pride thing, but leo influence is so fun. I need more of it because………………. Well because its AWESOME!

Hypatia is a fitting name for someone with mercury in virgo. Leave it to virgo influence to keep it classy.
Do you have strong influences in your chart that seem to be contradictory?

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hahaha HUGS

Yes 3 planets or more.

Ha I have my leo stellium in the 8th too, I say stellium bc aside from venus and mars I have a bunch of asteroids there...

Yes leo is the bomb, leos love hard and have a big heart, we are playful and we always will be kids at heart no matter how old we are.

With you and I having IC in Aries, Sag rising, and venus and mars in leo yes we are not as "reserved" as the virgo stereotype, I am very warm and I am thinking you are too with all that fire, add you have moon in aries and mercury in leo. You are definitely less reserved than I even bc your mercury is in a fire sign and you have moon in aries.

posted November 26, 2018 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well I like it bc I have it myself I have moon square neptune and my moon is in pisces to top it off so I feel when I kiss someone with this same aspect we get lost in each other and connect emotionally very quickly bc we have similar styles of connecting and moon square neptune I feel can merge with others while they kiss, that is just my opinion, so when two people come together that have this ability to get lost in the other while they kiss is freaking AWESOME! F Yeah lol

Moon square neptune is intuitive too and yes tends to believe in a higher power but is more mystical than religious. I like to talk about other "planes of existence and dimensions" versus there is a "heaven and a hell" which sounds made up and dogmatic. Moon square Neptune understands life and spirituality is a mystery, not this certain thing we have figured out and wants to explore that mystery.

Well this is my opinion, I did not read any of this anywhere

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I also feel moon square neptune absorbs other people's mood and sadness so sometimes you can feel sad and not know why and is like you are absorbing the sadness of someone near you or someone close to you or someone who is thinking of you bc this aspect is kind of psychic and an empath.

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Whoa! I didn’t know a person could be so passionate about kissing. I thought kissing was just a way for two people to slobber all over each other. Guess I’ve been doing that all wrong.

Yes I do indeed agree that spirituality is a mystery. No one has any real definitive answers but people on both sides (atheists/ believers) swear that they have it all figured out. I think every individual has their own relationship with the spirits.

Something in this last paragraph hit home… I don’t think I absorb people’s feelings (I could be wrong), but I do tend to be very receptive. Sometimes it’s on a physical level. For example, if someone near me or close to me has something wrong with a part of their body, that same part of my body will start to feel weird. When I was a kid I dismissed it because it was too weird for me to process. But as I’ve gotten older I definitely notice it more… as for the emotional side, I tend to have a strong empathy towards people. For some reason, people with problems home in on me like a heat seeking missile and I can feel their pain and want to fix it…. UGH I DO NOT LIKE THIS… it’s hard enough to deal with my own issues. Why me?

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Very interesting! I have sag rising too but my Sun in virgo squares NEPTUNE, I bet your Sun does not square neptune and also you have moon in aries and I have it in pisces so I think that is why you have a more pronounced sun in virgo bc what you just said sounds very sun in virgo and your moon is more action oriented while mine just wants to dream and can chill in bed and do the dishes tomorrow.

Thanks for sharing, its cool to see how we are similar and how we are different since we share quite a few placements.

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You are correct… in fact my Sun TRINES Neptune. If I know there are dishes in the sink I will be full of anxiety until it gets done. My body will not allow me to relax or think about anything else because it knows there is work to be done. The harder I fight against it, the harder it fights back and I am compelled to accomplish the task.

Lol, “Chill in bed”??????
What sort of magical sorcery is this? This is not a real thing

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hahaha HUGS

Yes 3 planets or more.

Ha I have my leo stellium in the 8th too, I say stellium bc aside from venus and mars I have a bunch of asteroids there...

Yes leo is the bomb, leos love hard and have a big heart, we are playful and we always will be kids at heart no matter how old we are.

With you and I having IC in Aries, Sag rising, and venus and mars in leo yes we are not as "reserved" as the virgo stereotype, I am very warm and I am thinking you are too with all that fire, add you have moon in aries and mercury in leo. You are definitely less reserved than I even bc your mercury is in a fire sign and you have moon in aries.

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posted November 26, 2018 04:04 PM            

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Whoa! I didn’t know a person could be so passionate about kissing. I thought kissing was just a way for two people to slobber all over each other. Guess I’ve been doing that all wrong.

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!! I literally laughed out load reading this Thanks. hahaha you reminded me just now of my first kiss, I think I was like 7 years old .

I am a bit of a weirdo about kissing, I totally romanticize it, I feel with someone who feels the same way I do about kissing it can be more fun than sex in a sense.

posted November 26, 2018 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by CertifiedAwesome:
Something in this last paragraph hit home… I don’t think I absorb people’s feelings (I could be wrong), but I do tend to be very receptive. Sometimes it’s on a physical level. For example, if someone near me or close to me has something wrong with a part of their body, that same part of my body will start to feel weird. When I was a kid I dismissed it because it was too weird for me to process. But as I’ve gotten older I definitely notice it more… as for the emotional side, I tend to have a strong empathy towards people. For some reason, people with problems home in on me like a heat seeking missile and I can feel their pain and want to fix it…. UGH I DO NOT LIKE THIS… it’s hard enough to deal with my own issues. Why me?

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awwwwwww you beautiful sweet creature!