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Topic: Why is it bad for a person to have Mars in Cancer in the first house?
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 3306 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 18, 2018 11:08 AM
I've read that this a bad placement to have in a natal chart. But why is that the case?IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3694 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 18, 2018 01:17 PM
I will answer your question, but first I must make the point again that it is the categorical declaration of placements as 'good' or 'bad' that obstructs the very understanding you seek. Astrology describes dynamics on a spectrum. So let's look at it ...Mars is at its peak of focused, proactive, constructive attitude and potential in Capricorn. Yes, Mars is the planetary principle behind Aries and both are fiery in nature, but fire must be contained to really benefit from it. Who wants a wildfire? So western and eastern (Indian) astrology refers to Mars in Capricorn as being in its exaltation -- not necessarily its home environment by element/sign, but the place where its better qualities are brought out by the how of the sign, which in this case is practical, constructive Capricorn. Mars in Cancer is at its zenith from its most exalted expression by sign, opposite that mode of expression. It is not controlled, guided by practical direction, but is more reactive and emotionally so, showing the person is prone to irritability and to decisions made by temporary boughts of such moods and reactions. So when both Ascendant and Mars in the 1st are in Cancer, there is emphasis in the personality on those qualities of subjective emotional reactions and moods that are not good at guiding the impulses/anger/decisions of Mars like Mars in Capricorn. Mars in Cancer rising brings a degree of emphasis to reconcile these things into the subjective, emotional person(ality) so that self-awareness can modify the way in which the Martial impulses are felt and used. Such a chart may also have noticeable positive, constructive aspects with Mars, say trine Saturn. So you know there is some basis for guiding the Martial impulses for such a person. But the need for further development and self-awareness is emphasized even more if the aspects with Mars are also challenging, such as oppositions or squares. How a person handles such a placement in this lifetime could be described as good or bad (or a mixture of both). The placements in our birth charts just describe something of how we've been and what pattern we've set coming into this lifetime -- not the result or any final assessment. ------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 3306 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 18, 2018 02:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: I will answer your question, but first I must make the point again that it is the categorical declaration of placements as 'good' or 'bad' that obstructs the very understanding you seek. Astrology describes dynamics on a spectrum. So let's look at it ...Mars is at its peak of focused, proactive, constructive attitude and potential in Capricorn. Yes, Mars is the planetary principle behind Aries and both are fiery in nature, but fire must be contained to really benefit from it. Who wants a wildfire? So western and eastern (Indian) astrology refers to Mars in Capricorn as being in its exaltation -- not necessarily its home environment by element/sign, but the place where its better qualities are brought out by the how of the sign, which in this case is practical, constructive Capricorn. Mars in Cancer is at its zenith from its most exalted expression by sign, opposite that mode of expression. It is not controlled, guided by practical direction, but is more reactive and emotionally so, showing the person is prone to irritability and to decisions made by temporary boughts of such moods and reactions. So when both Ascendant and Mars in the 1st are in Cancer, there is emphasis in the personality on those qualities of subjective emotional reactions and moods that are not good at guiding the impulses/anger/decisions of Mars like Mars in Capricorn. Mars in Cancer rising brings a degree of emphasis to reconcile these things into the subjective, emotional person(ality) so that self-awareness can modify the way in which the Martial impulses are felt and used. Such a chart may also have noticeable positive, constructive aspects with Mars, say trine Saturn. So you know there is some basis for guiding the Martial impulses for such a person. But the need for further development and self-awareness is emphasized even more if the aspects with Mars are also challenging, such as oppositions or squares. How a person handles such a placement in this lifetime could be described as good or bad (or a mixture of both). The placements in our birth charts just describe something of how we've been and what pattern we've set coming into this lifetime -- not the result or any final assessment.
Thanks for replying do you ever do paid readings?
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11263 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 18, 2018 04:06 PM
Great analysis Kannon! Thanks for sharing.IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3694 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 18, 2018 05:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Thanks for replying do you ever do paid readings?
Its what I do for a living.
------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11263 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 18, 2018 11:15 PM
I like their flaws though, I think is cute and find it attractive  IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 3306 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 18, 2018 11:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Its what I do for a living.
I see I'll check out your site. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 3306 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 19, 2018 12:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I like their flaws though, I think is cute and find it attractive 
Are they trustworthy? IP: Logged |
AnastasiyaEnchanted Knowflake Posts: 382 From: Canada Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 19, 2018 04:38 AM
I have a coworker with this placememt who also happens to be a supervisor. She is very pushy and dominating. However, she is also very sensitive amd tends to keep her feelings in when upset. She steams on the inside. She likes to be in control but at the same time goes into her "shell" when someone upsets her and kind of makes snide remarks instead of upright saying what is wrong and how she feelsIP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11263 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 19, 2018 11:35 AM
^Sounds about right, they are very sensitive and you have described pretty much their flaws to the point. Passive aggressive tendencies, need to work a lot on communication and assertiveness. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 3306 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 19, 2018 11:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by AnastasiyaEnchanted: I have a coworker with this placememt who also happens to be a supervisor. She is very pushy and dominating. However, she is also very sensitive amd tends to keep her feelings in when upset. She steams on the inside. She likes to be in control but at the same time goes into her "shell" when someone upsets her and kind of makes snide remarks instead of upright saying what is wrong and how she feels
Mars in Cancer dominating really? Lol IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 3306 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 19, 2018 03:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: ^Sounds about right, they are very sensitive and you have described pretty much their flaws to the point. Passive aggressive tendencies, need to work a lot on communication and assertiveness.
My mom has Mars in Cancer conjunct Mercury in Gemini. She's very sensitive in regards to family and babies. She can't let things go that upset her. It's overwhelming sometimes she can't get over things that hurt her. She will keep talking about the same situation sometimes and then break down and cry. And I always have to tell her to let things go. Are the men with Mars in Cancer usually gay or bisexual? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11263 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 19, 2018 03:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: My mom has Mars in Cancer conjunct Mercury in Gemini. She's very sensitive in regards to family and babies. She can't let things go that upset her. It's overwhelming sometimes she can't get over things that hurt her. She will keep talking about the same situation sometimes and then break down and cry. And I always have to tell her to let things go. Are the men with Mars in Cancer usually gay or bisexual?
 No, they are not usually gay or bisexual . Not the ones I have met anyways. One is super skinny like a tooth pick and has a thing for big girls with big eyes...He works in a male dominated field and is very handy, good at building and repairing things. He does have sun conjunct mars in cancer though with moon in sag. One broke both of the bones in his right and left hand punching someone. Like they are in touch with their emotions for sure which in men often manifests as anger issues, I would not say they are necessarily feminine, they can be quite manly. IP: Logged |
AnastasiyaEnchanted Knowflake Posts: 382 From: Canada Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 19, 2018 05:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Mars in Cancer dominating really? Lol
Yes. I forgot to mention that she has mars in cancer in the first house. Dominating but also passive aggressive and sensitive. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 3306 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 19, 2018 06:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by AnastasiyaEnchanted: Yes. I forgot to mention that she has mars in cancer in the first house. Dominating but also passive aggressive and sensitive.
So what kind of man or woman does a Mars in Cancer need? IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3115 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted November 20, 2018 09:10 AM
I think it's good to have Mars in Cancer in the 1st house. It seems like it alleviates some of the inadequacies of the sign placement. Mars here still works like Mars in Aries. They can be way more direct than other Mars in Cancer who have it in other houses. They know what they want and won't let anything stop them. It gives them self-confidence to go after what they want even though they'd still go about it in Cancerian ways. I think in general, it doesn't matter as much what sign your Mars is in, but rather the house placement and aspects matters more. Because Mars is a fiery planet, it needs to be in a house where it can express its energy easily. I find that some people with Mars in Aries/Scorpio who have it in either the 4th or 12th house, or any of the air houses are less typical and not as assertive. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 478 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted November 20, 2018 10:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: So what kind of man or woman does a Mars in Cancer need?
As Cancer is very nurturing and protective, I would think they want people whom they can nurture or can nurture them. They need to protect and feel protected. They don't do well with people who are too independent or insensitive. I've known a few Mars in Cancer people and they can be very sweet and fiercely protective of the people they love. But they can also be sensitive, moody and emotionally driven so the one for them must be patient & stable enough to manage that. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11263 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 20, 2018 11:14 AM
I feel the house tells you were they tend to focus more their mars energy, the area were the sign in their mars tends to be directed towards the most. Like my mars in Leo energy is channeled more through the 8th house (psychology, the occult, sex) since it conjuncts my Venus the ruler of my 10th I went for a psychology degree but for me studying psychology was FUN (LEO) and studying the occult is a hobby (LEO). It doesn't mean that my mars in leo doesn't show in other areas of my life (it rules my IC after all) but it focuses more around 8th house themes.IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 3306 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 20, 2018 12:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: As Cancer is very nurturing and protective, I would think they want people whom they can nurture or can nurture them. They need to protect and feel protected. They don't do well with people who are too independent or insensitive. I've known a few Mars in Cancer people and they can be very sweet and fiercely protective of the people they love. But they can also be sensitive, moody and emotionally driven so the one for them must be patient & stable enough to manage that.
I really like having my space but I can be clingy when I really like someone. I don't like people being nurturing towards me unless I really trust them. Because I don't open up and show my emotions with everyone. Most of the time I feel like I'm blocked emotionally. And when I do express my feelings I feel exposed, vulnerable and embarrassed. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 472 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted December 21, 2018 12:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen: I think it's good to have Mars in Cancer in the 1st house. It seems like it alleviates some of the inadequacies of the sign placement. Mars here still works like Mars in Aries. They can be way more direct than other Mars in Cancer who have it in other houses. They know what they want and won't let anything stop them. It gives them self-confidence to go after what they want even though they'd still go about it in Cancerian ways.
Yup, that's me! Mars in Aries interpretations are all me. IP: Logged |