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Radium
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posted November 28, 2018 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As much as this aspect has given me a rough ride. I can firmly say it is definitely a one of a kind placement.


This aspect is not for the faint of heart. You draw attention and power wherever you go. There is NO hiding with this position. You have the eyes of a detective, survivor or boss. Weaker people will be repulsed by you at first glance. Struggles involving your personal power, sexuality, and ability to lead situations are a theme in your life. One thing I've taken from this unique aspect is that less is more. It seems the harder you try to assert your dominance the worse off you become. On an unconscious level, you can help others find their inner sense of primal power. You bring the animal out in a lot of people whether you try to or not. This placement is one of the greatest for producing an influence on the masses. Your sex appeal is out on display. The opposite sex may be extremely attracted to you. With Pluto on your Ascendant you come off as a prideful loner. You ooze intensity. People can't help but get touchy around you.


With great practice, one can achieve beautiful and outstanding things with this placement. You could leave a legacy long to remember, being "too cool for school" is something that comes to mind. Admiration, jealousy, loyalty and leadership is a daily part of your life. Where Pluto is located is where you tend to go all or nothing. In the first house you can obsess over your physical appearance. People may view you as someone who has trouble "letting go". A key with anything Pluto is to accept her as she is. Pluto only wants the best for you. It wants you to be a leader. Whatever Pluto touches gives sexuality, depth, power, gravitation and cathartic presence.

Pluto has the power to heal when used appropriately. It can give one a strong body and incredibly striking features when on the ascendant or Mars. Use your powers for good and you will be rewarded, use them for bad and you will be destroyed.

Pluto-Sun: Makes the user act like a scorpio sun in a way (I am a Pisces with Sun square Pluto, makes me an even more intuitive Pisces. Gives me great insight on ulterior motives)

Pluto-Moon: Think scorpio moon tendencies (especially with conjunction) personal life can be very psychological in taste. Strong loyalty towards those you love. Can hold grudges if not careful, can be very sexual in emotional nature and love people who value truth.

Pluto-Mars: Brutal. Your physical energy is unrivaled. Bruce Lee has this aspect. You can bring out hidden energy you never knew you had. Your passion is very alluring. You move like a boss. Can give a Scorpio Mars do or die attitude. You fight for what you want until you get it. Obsessive motivation.

Pluto-Jupiter: Jupiter expands what it touches, this is a great aspect to have no matter the aspect. Strong values. You have great willpower. Philosophical issues mean a great matter to you. Sex life is adventurous and full. Great optimism and unapologetic morals. You take your studies, travels, morals and ambitions seriously. Have good opportunity to increase your finances and investments.


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posted November 28, 2018 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks you!

Pluto only Bi-Quintile my Asc instead Conjunction. So I'm no Special. Only
Pluto Conjunct Mars.
Pluto Conjunct Vertex.
Pluto Conjunct Jupiter.
Plut Conjunct Saturn.
Pluto Square Sun.
Pluto Square Mercury.
Pluto Trine MC.
Pluto Trine Moon.
Pluto Trine Venus.

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My Chart :
http://imgur.com/hCRDawD

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 28, 2018 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you say the opposition/square/trine would give similar results?

Personally,I am not a fan of Pluto on Moon,Venus or Mars. The folks I have met are too fanatical. The "fight to the death" nature they have ain't sexy to me.

Interestingly ,my family members are all Pluto in aspect to Sun.

Dad-Pluto opp Sun
Step Dad-Pluto parallel Sun,Pluto/Mars.
Mom- Pluto square Sun
Sister-Pluto opposite Sun
Little Sis- Pluto conj Sun.

I am the oddball with Pluto sextile Sun. The only Pluto aspect(thank God).

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posted November 28, 2018 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Would you say the opposition/square/trine would give similar results?

My experience, fwiw, in the 7th, opposite rising, it is a tad similar to what he describes above.

Our 7th/dsc affects how we see the world, our lens. What we project onto others, others to some degree project back onto us. In a sort of roundabout way I'd say Pluto opposition or 7th could indeed seem a little like Pluto rising. Same for all planets opposite rising, I'd wager.

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posted November 28, 2018 09:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto conjunct Jupiter square Mars and yes, I am basically Bruce Lee.

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posted November 29, 2018 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
My experience, fwiw, in the 7th, opposite rising, it is a tad similar to what he describes above.

Our 7th/dsc affects how we see the world, our lens. What we project onto others, others to some degree project back onto us. In a sort of roundabout way I'd say Pluto opposition or 7th could indeed seem a little like Pluto rising. Same for all planets opposite rising, I'd wager.


I think you could be correct here. As I have always suspected that the Asc/DSC point is two sides of the same coin in essence.

I know someone with Pluto in 1st. And there is something very imposing about their physique. They are very thick.

Pluto in 1st I would imagine makes their presence felt- just as Sun would I think.

But I did wonder of Pluto in 7th? Like how would that play out? Because as I have said on some occasions, I find my Pluto in 7th really hard to grasp.

So when you mentioned the "roundabout" way that Pluto in 7th is Pluto in 1st i.e. like Pluto in 7th kinda "disowns" that energy, that could make sense.

I notice that Mars/Pluto in 7th tend towards activism. The aggression is more towards wrongs done to others more so than wrongs directly done to themselves.

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posted November 29, 2018 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto on Venus and DSC. I do come off as a prideful loner. Someone actually told me something like that before lol, but I think it could also be that I have three planets in the 8th and they're all conjunct. And I think I can be fanatic, but when it comes to things I care about. Most things, I am pretty chilled about though. Might be my Aquarian tendencies at that point.

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posted November 29, 2018 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your description reminds of me Katy Perry's discography. She has so many songs with lyrics and themes along these lines. She is a Scorpio sun moon mercury and ASC with Pluto conj ASC. Her music was so healing and fun to me when she first debuted. Made me feel like I could be a literal phoenix that died and arose from the ashes, like I could conquer mountains while still having a party to celebrate (our Venus in Sag). I guess Scorpio souls naturally cling together.

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posted November 29, 2018 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandra018     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have experience with this aspect as a transit- pluto conj Asc.. i wonder what kind of transformations would that bring to one and his marriage...

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posted November 29, 2018 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Would you say the opposition/square/trine would give similar results?

Personally,I am not a fan of Pluto on Moon,Venus or Mars. The folks I have met are too fanatical. The "fight to the death" nature they have ain't sexy to me.

Interestingly ,my family members are all Pluto in aspect to Sun.

Dad-Pluto opp Sun
Step Dad-Pluto parallel Sun,Pluto/Mars.
Mom- Pluto square Sun
Sister-Pluto opposite Sun
Little Sis- Pluto conj Sun.

I am the oddball with Pluto sextile Sun. The only Pluto aspect(thank God).


Your family sounds like mine, all the Pluto and Scorpionic contacts. I know they must be fun

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posted December 02, 2018 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted December 02, 2018 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This aspect is so overrated to the point that I can't even read it without taking it seriously.

I have an exact Moon-Pluto opposition with Moon in 8th (0°01' Orb), Mars-Asc in Scorpio conj. exact, both parallel Pluto with Mars as my dom planet.

Reading these descriptions about people being "intimidated" and "in aww of your power" is almost like some kind of joke. It never feels like that for me; if it was like that you would think it wouldn't be such a difficult placement to have but the truth is that it's never like this. People aren't mesmerized by me, they aren't blown away by some kind of hidden power that oozes out of me, it doesn't happen that way.

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posted December 02, 2018 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
This aspect is so overrated to the point that I can't even read it without taking it seriously.

I have an exact Moon-Pluto opposition with Moon in 8th (0°01' Orb), Mars-Asc in Scorpio conj. exact, both parallel Pluto with Mars as my dom planet.

Reading these descriptions about people being "intimidated" and "in aww of your power" is almost like some kind of joke. It never feels like that for me; if it was like that you would think it wouldn't be such a difficult placement to have but the truth is that it's never like this. People aren't mesmerized by me, they aren't blown away by some kind of hidden power that oozes out of me, it doesn't happen that way.


I'm confused. Do you have Pluto conjunct the ASC or not?

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posted December 07, 2018 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Scorpio Rising with Pluto in 1st in Sag.

As time goes by my progressed chart deems it inevitable that Pluto will be fully Conjunct my ASC for a good 7-8 years.

People can sense my Pluto.
I walk in, and death is creeping. I am an agent of the dark, the mystic, and the vile.

Pluto in short; Pluto reigns over power, but his power is primal and violent. Pluto is a master of psychology. He kills the weak. He helps the strong. Pluto represents the animal in all of us. That human side of you were you no different from a pack of wolves or a pack of birds flying in angle. Once you master Pluto you master the world. Pluto (sex, death, reincarnation. investment shares, debts, inheritances, intensity) Pluto rules what men strive to be. Pluto is the badass planet.

Having Pluto in the 1st WILL make you a target. A target for good or for death. Many respected celebrities, artists who have this usually the ones running the show. They are the "one" if you will.

Keanu Reeves - Pluto conjunct ASC
Kurt Cobain - Pluto Conjunct ASC
Paul Walker - Pluto Conjunct ASC
Al Pacino - Pluto Conjunct ASC
Prince - Scorpio Rising
Michael Jackson - Sun conjunct PLuto

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posted December 08, 2018 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
Your family sounds like mine, all the Pluto and Scorpionic contacts. I know they must be fun

You got jokes .

Interestingly, I find the Mars-Pluto conj, the most problem. Not so much Sun/Pluto nor Pluto/Asc.

My Dad has the Mars/Pluto. Not good, tends to intimidate a lot. A request sounds very much like an order. And joking around is taken to be an offense by them.

I had an ex also with Mars/Pluto conjunct. I didn't enjoy how he was so extreme. If he could lock me up in a tower somewhere ,I think he would have lol. Very territorial.

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posted December 08, 2018 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
This aspect is so overrated to the point that I can't even read it without taking it seriously.

I have an exact Moon-Pluto opposition with Moon in 8th (0°01' Orb), Mars-Asc in Scorpio conj. exact, both parallel Pluto with Mars as my dom planet.

Reading these descriptions about people being "intimidated" and "in aww of your power" is almost like some kind of joke. It never feels like that for me; if it was like that you would think it wouldn't be such a difficult placement to have but the truth is that it's never like this. People aren't mesmerized by me, they aren't blown away by some kind of hidden power that oozes out of me, it doesn't happen that way.


I know what you mean. I think it's the reputation that Pluto has tbh. What I notice is the tendency for Pluto types to be the types to draw enemy lines or"cut off" people

Granted,some can be intimidating(like the one I know with Pluto in 1st house because he is THICK with a height that can be imposing)

But there are others who are not. And I see that extreme nature mostly play out emotionally with them I.e There are few things that Pluto folks folks not take seriously. One needs to be careful of words or saying things in a careless manner etc.

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posted December 08, 2018 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I'm confused. Do you have Pluto conjunct the ASC or not?

Pluto Parallel ASC and Mars, the same as conjunct in Declinations

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posted December 08, 2018 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I know what you mean. I think it's the reputation that Pluto has tbh. What I notice is the tendency for Pluto types to be the types to draw enemy lines or"cut off" people

Granted,some can be intimidating(like the one I know with Pluto in 1st house because he is THICK with a height that can be imposing)

But there are others who are not. And I see that extreme nature mostly play out emotionally with them I.e There are few things that Pluto folks folks not take seriously. One needs to be careful of words or saying things in a careless manner etc.


I only cut off people when they have wronged me in some way. I'm the type of person where I have few in my circle, but once you are you're in it for the long haul. I have very few people I actually consider friends. If they shatter my trust with them that's when I cut them off.

I've been told that I am intimidating even though I'm not trying to be. With my Moon-Pluto + Moon in 8th I'm already emotional as all hell so the added influence just intensifies it. I also have Sun-Pluto sextile.

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posted December 29, 2018 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumpin this back up!

this aspect is soooooo fuckiing hard to deal with man.... people literally hate on you just because your sexy. like **** ... I didn't choose this, it chose me xD

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posted December 29, 2018 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever Radium!!!! OMG...

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posted December 29, 2018 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Whatever Radium!!!! OMG...

hahha love ya dude xD

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posted January 09, 2019 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dated someone with Pluto on his ascendant and he was none of those things lol. It was just inside the 12th house though so maybe that made it different? He had a stellium in Leo in the 9th too and was obsessed with me. I'm Pluto dominant and our synastry was complex, composite had uranus conjunct moon exactly. Maybe he just acted differently around me, idk but I was very shocked when I saw he had that aspect. I'd have never guessed it. Guess I should add that I have moon/Pluto exactly conjunct. Pluto is at 0 scorpio, moon at 29 libra and he tells me that I'm the intimidating one. He on the other hand, is not at all like that lol.

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posted January 14, 2019 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I dated someone with Pluto on his ascendant and he was none of those things lol. It was just inside the 12th house though so maybe that made it different? He had a stellium in Leo in the 9th too and was obsessed with me. I'm Pluto dominant and our synastry was complex, composite had uranus conjunct moon exactly. Maybe he just acted differently around me, idk but I was very shocked when I saw he had that aspect. I'd have never guessed it. Guess I should add that I have moon/Pluto exactly conjunct. Pluto is at 0 scorpio, moon at 29 libra and he tells me that I'm the intimidating one. He on the other hand, is not at all like that lol.

he hasn't developed his pluto. its either intense power struggles, or .. what u dealt with. pluto doesn't always mean a dominant person. the person can also be dominated if not evolved. Pluto is about extremes. extremely weak or extremely strong

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posted January 14, 2019 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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he hasn't developed his pluto. its either intense power struggles, or .. what u dealt with. pluto doesn't always mean a dominant person. the person can also be dominated if not evolved. Pluto is about extremes. extremely weak or extremely strong

I have to agree. He was a complete doormat and not just with me. He's very attracted to Pluto, scorpio type women that are very intense. Maybe that's his way of learning how to take control of his own Plutonic energy. I definitely helped him lol.

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posted January 14, 2019 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I have to agree. He was a complete doormat and not just with me. He's very attracted to Pluto, scorpio type women that are very intense. Maybe that's his way of learning how to take control of his own Plutonic energy. I definitely helped him lol.


Good. pluto is approaching my ascendant with Capricorn, I may need your assistance

Im feeling its effects already. I see with approaching circumstances how exhausted I feel. there's things that are done that widen the wound where ever pluto is.
im triying to get ahead of the game without getting to ahead of myself and killing my self.

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