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Hu_w_ryl_A
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posted December 01, 2018 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hu_w_ryl_A     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello guys

I have just come across the draconic chart method and I am amazed how it fills in quite a few blanks for me that I had concerning my natal and I can identify very much..

However, I have also noticed that the synastry of my natal and draconic is full of squares and oppositions since every planet in my draconic chart is 90 degrees farther than the natal planet... there is actually just red aspects that are created by the overlay of those charts.

Just a few examples:

sun sq. sun (tau - leo)
moon sq. moon (vir - sag)
venus sq. venus (tau - leo)
mars sq. mars (ari - can)
(...)

Can anyone tell me what they think this might indicate? Is this a super bad sign..?

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Hu_w_ryl_A
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posted December 01, 2018 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hu_w_ryl_A     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and also Pluto, Saturn and Lilith conjunctions and opposition, i.e.

Saturn (D) + Sun (N)
Saturn (D) + Venus (N)
Pluto (D) + Saturn (N)

Sun (D) Opp. Saturn (N)
Sun (D) Opp. Lilith (N)
Venus (D) Opp. Lilith (N)


Doesn't look so great, imo ..

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posted December 01, 2018 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well.. A little tension never hurt nobody
.it ends up leading to A-ttention

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Hu_w_ryl_A
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posted December 01, 2018 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hu_w_ryl_A     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well.. A little tension never hurt nobody
.it ends up leading to A-ttention

Well, thanks

I just found a good tumblr post on it:

"If your original North Node is in 25 degrees Sagittarius - 5 degrees Capricorn…
Your Draconic chart is going to have a bit of a bone to pick with the new natal chart it’s being forced into. All of your Draconic planets will square your counterpart natal planets, and a major life lesson will be learning that what makes you you is not entirely decided by you when it comes to life on Earth. You may feel a constant pressure to become what you’re expected to be rather than what you feel you are, which can hurt your self-esteem. However, it enables you to claim more than one type of identity, resulting in a remarkably strong sense of self after the initial shock."

https://rmaastrology.tumblr.com/post/165861082745/what-is-a-draconic-astrology-chart-how-do-you

I can relate, tbh.. especially since my draconic chart feels truer to me than my natal. It all makes sense with this explanation ..

There's also info on other north node positions (draconic charts), so if anyone is interested, just visit the link

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posted December 01, 2018 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my draconic chart is basically exactly the same as my sidereal (couple of degrees difference)

unless it's read very differently it almost seems pointless to look at

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posted December 01, 2018 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hu_w_ryl_A     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my draconic chart is basically exactly the same as my sidereal (couple of degrees difference)

unless it's read very differently it almost seems pointless to look at


From what I've read, your draconic chart will only (kinda) be the same when you already have your north node in (or near) aries, so that should apply to you?

But that also means that your "true untouched soul self" is the same self that you have come to represent in this life (that was shaped by your environment).. which is actually considered a good thing, since it means you are actually more in touch with your soul self and there is less of a dissonance..

In a video on YT someone said that while other people need to reconnect with their draconic chart, people with similar natal and draconic just need to get to know themselves more fully (through their natal) because they already are what they are supposed to be!

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posted December 01, 2018 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hu_w_ryl_A:
From what I've read, your draconic chart will only (kinda) be the same when you already have your north node in (or near) aries, so that should apply to you?

But that also means that your "true untouched soul self" is the same self that you have come to represent in this life (that was shaped by your environment).. which is actually considered a good thing, since it means you are actually more in touch with your soul self and there is less of a dissonance..

In a video on YT someone said that while other people need to reconnect with their draconic chart, people with similar natal and draconic just need to get to know themselves more fully (through their natal) because they already are what they are supposed to be!


well it's a little different from my tropical (my nn is in aries though yeah) but it's almost exactly my sidereal because i have a 28 degree pisces nn in that

in sidereal im leo sun, virgo rising (virgo venus conjunct), pisces moon, cancer mercury, sag mars

draconic it's the same right down to the kite in my chart not changing and even being right by my nodes still

interesting way of looking at it though, i appreciate the explanation

ive found draconic hard to study since the information is so limited and i had only looked at my chart and my fiancee's in it and we both have aries nn and it matches our sidereals so it never occurred to me to dig deeper

now i would with someone else's chart rather than my own

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posted December 01, 2018 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hu_w_ryl_A     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
well it's a little different from my tropical (my nn is in aries though yeah) but it's almost exactly my sidereal because i have a 28 degree pisces nn in that

in sidereal im leo sun, virgo rising (virgo venus conjunct), pisces moon, cancer mercury, sag mars

draconic it's the same right down to the kite in my chart not changing and even being right by my nodes still

interesting way of looking at it though, i appreciate the explanation

ive found draconic hard to study since the information is so limited and i had only looked at my chart and my fiancee's in it and we both have aries nn and it matches our sidereals so it never occurred to me to dig deeper

now i would with someone else's chart rather than my own


The aspects between the planets don’t change (so your kite naturally wouldn’t) and their positions in the houses don’t change either .. the only thing that (usually) changes are the signs

There is a good and short introduction video by Alyssa Sharpe on YT: https://youtu.be/2tbFWT8SYxE

So do you relate more to your sidereal / draconic Chart or to your tropical natal?
And when you discovered your natal / sidereal did you feel like it matched your personality? Since your draconic is kinda similar, it should have felt quite right for you?
You are right that if your draconic doesn’t change the planets signs very much, you might not gain new insight from it but 11 out of 12 people will because of the changes that will occur for them.

Surprisingly, most info I could found was at tumblr. If you are interested you can simply look for „draconic astrology or chart“ and find quite a few results.

Here is one example:
„What is Draconic Astrology?
Your draconic chart represents a lot of things. It’s karmic, spiritual and unconscious, pertaining to the soul and the soul’s desire, linked to destiny, fate and soulmates. Some think of the Draconic chart as the true purpose behind the soul’s intentions.
Draconic astrology is derived from the True Nodes of the moon. Instead of starting at 0 Aries at the Vernal Equinox, 0 Aries begins at the Moon’s North Node. If you were born with the North Node at 0 Aries, your Draconic and Natal charts would be identical. The Houses, and Planets in Houses remain the same, but the signs, degrees and degrees in the houses can change drastically.
Like the North Node, a Draconic chart will tell you about where you’re headed, if you choose to reach out, and like the South Node, it will tell you about where you have been, what’s comforting, familiar and secure. It’s said that as a child you were more your Draconic chart than Natal, as you were closer to your soul and true personality. It also has connections to reincarnation, the thought that your soul will carry it’s Draconic chart with it to each person it visits throughout your multiple lives. It can also explain attraction you cannot see in normal synastry and comparison.
A Draconic chart will represent deep values, belief patterns, individual purpose, meaning and clarity. It’s less characteristics and personality traits, and more higher ethics and the soul. Draconic placements indicate soul qualities and suggest the ideal the soul wants to attain in the world, as well as areas of growth, and who we subconsciously dream of becoming. The Moon of the Draconic chart is also said to represent your ‘true sign’ and the barest form of who you really are deep inside, whether you understand/know it or not.
Each sign still applies to it’s planetary meaning, but we view Draconic signs a little differently, turning their power inward and forwards. The Draconic chart is sensitive to transits and can be progressed, pertaining to life-changing events and encounters that we aren’t consciously aware of, such as someone accidentally being in touch with our Draconic inner qualities and guiding our lives. These events are thought of as ‘spiritual prompts’, guiding inner impulse to the surface.
The Draconic chart is best understood in comparison to the natal chart, as it interacts as two parts of your being; active and unconscious (Though Draconic astrology acts on a much deeper level than the subconscious persona chart characteristics of each planet)
Conjunction and Opposition aspects and where they fall when the two charts are compared are important. Through Draconic charts we can discover that those closest to us can be acutely aware of our soul’s purpose. (Amplifying the weight of advice coming from those closest to us. They may be more aware of what our soul and true selves need much more than we are consciously aware of.)
Some identify heavily with their Draconic aspects, while others don’t, showing us who is more in touch with their spiritual side and who isn’t. In the many layers of the Horoscope and personality, Draconic may represent the inner most layer, the one that shines through when everything else is peeled away.“

If people are interested I can post more of what I found to be good articles/ posts about it!

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DRACONIC SOUL SELF

LEO Sun + Venus
SAG Moon + Jupiter + Psyche
ARI ASC + Neptune/Uranus

CAN - Mercury + Mars
SCO - Chiron

TAU - Saturn
AQU - Pluto

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