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visions
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posted December 02, 2018 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
things are going crazy in France, we are now on act 3 from the protest start with the 2nd rush on paris the last 2 saturday and 4th act is pending for nex week as french president is dodging french claims about rising price - espacially gas price - and spending power lowering.

We have never seen that even the may 1968 protest didn't go so far on violences. When you go to hot spot in france mainly roundabouts and blocked tolls you can fell anger and suffering frome people who are just look in your eyes with nothing to lose....

yesterday a prefecture was burned, in some cities yellow shirt just gathered in front of prefecture yelling all the day.

all streets around triumphal arch have seen their shop vandalized and lots of cars burned. The triumphal arch was soiled by tagline criticizing the sinking of country due to bad management and especially suporting rich people. The most fascinating thing is that you could see a lot of old people some around 80 yo attacking police with stones etc...

French people have the feeling that our President is just ignoring people claimings. Some call him King Macron the 1st etc...MAcrn is now very infamous, but yesterday, something change and people yell about dictatorship as all french people managed to see that media are doing disinformations. Friday there was yellow shirt in Brussell supporting yellow shirt movement.Plus, Police are just exhausted from 2 previous act in paris so they doesn't want to defend paris if there is a 4th act.

Some french astrologer, i will say low level astrologer in some forum are insisting on next new moon for the 4th act, sun-moon will square mars-neptune conjunction so violence could spread everywhere.

For my part, things are way simple when you look at uranus, uranus will be stationary direct 29° critical degree of aries end of 1st week off january 2019 so there will be a peak of yellow shirt protest then probably negociations and reform will take place until uranus enter taurus again in march 2019 for a new state of things.

what is very interesting is that yellow shirt movement which is gathering all people from everwhere in france have no leader. The government ask for a leader to deal with us, but we refuse to name one since we know we will be manipulated if we do this or the leader could be corrupted by mean ways. So the pros of yellow shirt embodies uranus qualities : it is unpredictable, no leader, protest are very efficient due to surprize effect on high economic hot spots.


But, i am very very suprized that this yellow shirt doesn't reach other countries ? Especially Spain because there is a massive blocking in south of France of trucks who want to go spain. But spanish people doesn't react.

What's your thought on yellow shirt movement in France? If you are from england or other European countries please tell me how this movement is seen, and of course how will it evolve in time related to other transits? Do you think other countries will be hit by the uranus ingress like France?

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bumblebee
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posted December 02, 2018 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you should ger France astro chart (there should be one at least in astrotheme.fr) and see where the pluto saturn conjunction january 2020 takes place.

I am really suprized that even media created desinformation.

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posted December 02, 2018 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you say its true,im from greece and media didnt present that the way it should.I guess european goverments try to reduce the importance cause they are afraid it may happen to them too.Unfortunately in such movements often interfere fasist or goverment people in order to confuse common opinion ,cause they create in purpose not necessary damages.I was excited to watch that yesterday but a movemennt needs duration to become succesful.Capitalism rules so it will be difficult to change that status.Italy will be the next one to suffer from that.

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posted December 02, 2018 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello bumble,

all the official channel in france from TF1, France 2 to M6 are just ignored but people are hating even more channel like BFMTV and Cnews charging them both from an organized massmedia-governement collusion and manipulation of information. Then, people are creating their own information on truth about the situation, when a fact is occuring, people watch what say TV channels then check the reality and if there is inconsistency, then they just spreading the real truth using social media like facebook and twitter fake news to inform people. For example, all the numbers of protesting people since the start of yellow shirt movement are lowered drastically. They tried also to charge radicalists parties in france to be the instigator of the movement whereas yellow shirts are apolitical...one moment, the nordist dockers in Dieppe blocked the port and info was not related in media...etc..


i would like to point out also that a lot of people are really disappointed by the silence of all artist about people sufferings so they also charge them from remaining silent. People know that artist collude with medias.

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posted December 02, 2018 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by visions:

For my part, things are way simple when you look at uranus, uranus will be stationary direct 29° critical degree of aries end of 1st week off january 2019 so there will be a peak of yellow shirt protest then probably negociations and reform will take place until uranus enter taurus again in march 2019 for a new state of things.


I get my news mainly from youtube, so I suppose it's more accurately displayed by alternative news sources..

I don't think protests will just calm down when uranus goes into taurus, because chiron will enter aries and I think it will cause more protests everywhere in Europe.

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posted December 04, 2018 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just checked Macron's horoscope. South Node is transiting his AC en uranus hit his chiron. With the next elections in 2022, pluto will transit his AC. Chiron crossing his SN. Uranus conjunct moon.

https://imgur.com/a/4ItYs7n
in his Solar return chart of 2022: SN and Uranus conjunct natal moon. Chiron conj natal SN. Mars conj POF. Lilith conj natal DC and Orcus. Apparently Orcus is conj his DC (Orcus is like Pluto known as the god of the underworld)
Natal SN conj Ixion (Astrologically, Ixion represents ingratitude; the violation of social norms of conduct; being offered a second chance, only to waste it; betrayal; and murder, often prominent in the charts of murderers or homicides.)

Moon conj Natal MC- SR AC en SR Ixion conj natal 12th house cusp. Sedna conj his natal IC (Astrologically, Sedna relates to issues relating to unevolved human interactions based on the triad of roles of victim, perpetrator and rescuer. It relates to the sense of having compassion for those who are abused without feeling hatred toward the abusers. People who have Sedna prominent in their natal charts—close to the Ascendant or Mid-heaven or conjunct a personal planet—may have had lives marked by an experience of betrayal which they need to assimilate and transform in order to grow spiritually.)


Lol, his North Node is also very telling:
NORTH NODE LIBRA 8TH HOUSE / SOUTH NODE ARIES 2ND HOUSE
Moving away from selfish priorities. Becoming less selfish in the way that you spend your money.
Becoming more attuned to the wants and needs of other people. Developing deep, meaningful relationships with people who value peace, cooperation, art and refinement. Releasing the impulse to take what you want without asking. Making peace with people’s priorities. No longer forcing your priorities onto other people. Finding a way to come to terms with splitting or sharing your income with other people. No longer being competitive about what you have. Releasing immature attitudes surrounding the need to earn a living and pay your bills. No more “me first” when it comes to what you own.

Obviously, he is not yet following his NN and will realize after he fell off his trone in 2022 I assume judging from his horoscope, that being selfish and keeping all the money to himself is ironically not as beneficial to himself as he thought. He will have to revalue his whole mentality.

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posted December 04, 2018 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought to look up Ixion in his lunar chart because it seems to be fitting with what it going on (Ixion meaning the violation of social norms of conduct; being offered a second chance, only to waste it; betrayal) and wow, it is exact to the minute(!) conjunct his Juno. Elsewhere I read, this can mean a blow to one's ego.

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posted December 05, 2018 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can't believe he is falling like that he has a kick ass transit right now transiting uranus trine his natal sun-mercury conjunction in sagittarius and his natal saturn in virgo making a grand trine.......................

Yet yesterday a sick historian essayist Eric Zemmour which is dread and much respected among all intellectual famous names in france said his 5 years presidential term is dead, he said that our president is like a "headless duck"......

yesterday Macron was litterally verbally insulted by people in Puy-in-Velay

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posted December 05, 2018 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well but he considered postponing the gas tax right?

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posted December 05, 2018 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebee:
Well but he considered postponing the gas tax right?


yes but all people know that is a manipulative way to calm down people in order to raise up the price by reimplementing the tax 6 month later hoping nobody will react. Actually it could work because in 6 month it will be summer and all people will be in holidays so not enough attention to pay to the shift the governement could do. But soon, in january 2019, the government will pick up tax directly on the wages so people will lose 10% of their wages just after the new year, french people will flare up again surely and other taxes like electricity is supposed to raise up also, it's too much. The governement act sneakily implementing reform in a hiding way, and people hate this. Some of neptune in the mix, i think the mars-neptune conjunction this week could produce tricky things like thaht.

In the meanwhile, i heard some english people that are more pragmatic than us with the economic reality asking "french want a better minimum wage, more money, more money from social assistance, free road and bus and tramway ok, but which taxes they will raise to pay all this raises? french people want less tax also, when english people hear this they just laugh"

so you can see french claims are just silly but actually it reflects a very very deep discontent.

We are also raging more and more about our artist that do nothing for us because the system just feed them with money, promote their album and show.

NOT A SINGLE ARTIST have had a word of compassion for the french people.

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posted December 05, 2018 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean some of the French artists?

What about French rappers?

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posted December 05, 2018 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebee:
You mean some of the French artists?

What about French rappers?



both are strongly criticized, but you are right, especially french rappers as they sing against the governement all the tile in their LPs and now, when people face crisis, not a single one is heard.

Another buzz is the special live concert joint every year for the have-nots called "enfoirés" when all famous french artist gather to sing for poor people gather fund for food and drink for homeless people. Not a single artist from this band have been heard...

Actors silence is also very weird. The french actor Matthieu kassovitz tweeted to prevent yellow movement from pursuing their action then he promote the yellow shirt to keep manifesting...........this u-turn trigger flaming on his twitter.

Right now it's just close to civil war in France, there is students who are hospitalized after the were hit by flashball fired by policemen, the act IV this saturday in paris is just dread by all the governement and police are fed up with facing hatred of people to protect government that promises them to pay a fee in order to fight against yellow shirt. So just right now the police union call for a strike saturday !!! So yellow shirt won't have any policemen to stop them !! it will lead to anarchy, so people think that maybe government call military force to stop them but military force in france doesn't like macron, GEneral De villiers just hate him. Macron currently is hiding and dodging media.

Such a mess, i never saw this in my life. Sunday night, all the professionnal truck driver will block french road, the farmer also are joining their force, Farmer are insane in protest, they are just silly, they just ride their truck and destroy anything by time.

the party that sustain Macron president dread for their own life as they are threated by people. In the meanwhile, the MAcron party is full of rich people from upper-class society and people hate them so there is retaliation in the air.

Don't know what will happen saturday but i think things will go worse before, tomorrow or friday as the mars-neptune conjunction is buildins his square with the new moon in sagittarius with jupiter aside. It's going to be rough

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posted December 06, 2018 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I read yesterday an interview with Bridgitte Bardot, but all that I understand was that she likes the Macrons fashion style.

I am worried cus France should be the leading nation in European union and with that crisis...

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posted December 07, 2018 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
live from the front: things are totally going wild in france right now

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