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Aries Eagle
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posted December 10, 2018 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I talked with my father yesterday about the exact time of my birth and now i'm confused between three Rising signs (Virgo / Libra(most likely) / Scorpio), I'll post a recent picture and a young picture of me it may help.

Aries Sun / Cancer Moon / Rising? Virgo, Libra or Scorpio?

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posted December 10, 2018 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm guessing Virgo. The meticulousness is oozing from your eyes.

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posted December 10, 2018 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I agree with the person above. Virgo seems like it. Scorpio is my 2nd guess

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posted December 10, 2018 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been told by close relatives that i have sharp piercing eyes which makes me think about scorpio.

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posted December 10, 2018 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be most helpful to see a chart set in the middle of these choices so we've got all the planet positions for full context. I suggest keeping the data intact if you want me to answer, or at least keeping it up until I do.

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posted December 10, 2018 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Baby version of you is adorable

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posted December 10, 2018 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Kannon i'll do three charts with the 3 Risings, Thank you.

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posted December 10, 2018 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Baby version of you is adorable

Thank you

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posted December 10, 2018 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to my family my Rising should be {Last degrees of Virgo / Libra / First degrees of Scorpio}



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posted December 10, 2018 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looks more like scorpio to me, definitely not libra possibly virgo but id go with scorpio

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posted December 10, 2018 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could see the Aries in him more in his baby pic...

Is your progressed Sun no longer in Aries? Did it move out to Taurus already? Curious why the aries traits are more pronounced in you when you were younger and less visible now.

Your moon in cancer is definitely influencing your face..

Which sign do you least feel you get? Taurus, Aries or Pisces? Our 7th house sign is our shadow and we don't tend to own those traits and feel irritated by that sign or like we don't quite get them although we also feel attracted to them.

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posted December 10, 2018 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I could see the Aries in him more in his baby pic...

Is your progressed Sun no longer in Aries? Did it move out to Taurus already? Curious why the aries traits are more pronounced in you when you were younger and less visible now.

Your moon in cancer is definitely influencing your face..

Which sign do you least feel you get? Taurus, Aries or Pisces? Our 7th house sign is our shadow and we don't tend to own those traits and feel irritated by that sign or like we don't quite get them although we also feel attracted to them.


Yes my Sun progressed to Taurus, Moon progressed to Leo, ASC progressed to Scorpio assuming a Libra Rising.

As to your question about which sign i least get is Taurus but attracted to Taurus females probably more than any females.

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posted December 10, 2018 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Yes my Sun progressed to Taurus, Moon progressed to Leo, ASC progressed to Scorpio assuming a Libra Rising.

As to your question about which sign i least get is Taurus but attracted to Taurus females.


I feel comfortable ruling out Libra. You don't look like a libra riser, you really don't at all.

Its either Virgo or Scorpio.

What do you do for a living? Do you have a strong need to save money and accumulate wealth? OR are you kind of erratic with money going from saving a lot and then unexpectedly having to spend it all? Do you have a strong need to be of service to others and help others? Do you want to move abroad?

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posted December 10, 2018 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What do you do for a living?
Manging my mothers real estate and student.

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OR are you kind of erratic with money going from saving a lot and then unexpectedly having to spend it all?
I had this bad behavior although nowadays i focus on saving a lot and spend only for what i need

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Do you want to move abroad?
Especially lately i'm thinking about this even though my country is a heaven on earth.

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posted December 11, 2018 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought Virgo...

You look more earthy to me.

I don't really think it's Libra... and Scorpio is a bit more aggressive in their vibe. So if you were Aries with a Scorpio AC... (double the Mars) I think you'd come across as intimidating. But you seem friendly.

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posted December 11, 2018 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
[QUOTE]What do you do for a living?
Manging my mothers real estate and student.

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OR are you kind of erratic with money going from saving a lot and then unexpectedly having to spend it all?
I had this bad behavior although nowadays i focus on saving a lot and spend only for what i need

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Do you want to move abroad?
Especially lately i'm thinking about this even though my country is a heaven on earth.
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What are you studying? have you picked a major?

Ruler of the 6th conjunct Saturn on the IC makes me think making a living involving your mother's business which in this case is real state, this would fit well with Virgo riser. Pluto on the 2nd ruling your 3rd, would make you think a lot about making money and how to accumulate more wealth to feel more secure, financial security is important to you but with pluto inconjunct jupiter in the 7th ruler of the IC you resent working with your mother understandably as it requires you to make at lot of adjustments to make this work even though its beneficial to you. I wouldn't be surprised if your mother ends up setting you up with who you get married to. You want to move abroad but your commitment to your mother/family will make this unlikely. This is part of your wound with chiron in the 9th, barriers to moving abroad or not feeling comfortable abroad and returning home.

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Now with scorpio riser you working for your mother with real state also fits with Uranus ruling your IC conjuncting Saturn in the 2nd house square Sun ruler of the 6th. However with scorpio riser you could move abroad and there are no barriers to this, if you want it to happen it would by finding a job that will facilitate this happening, you don't feel this commitment to mother/family holding you back.

Interesting with Scorpio rising you have Mars in Gemini in the 7th with pluto in scorpio ruling your chart.

With Virgo rising you have Mars in Taurus in the 9th with mercury in pisces ruling your chart and you love philosophy. I feel mars in Taurus in the 9th fits you more, add most of Taurus would fall in your 8th which makes you attracted to Taurus.

Like I said earlier in your baby pic I see a blend of aries with taurus, not of aries with gemini.

I am going to say Virgo rising based on my interactions with you and my own sun in Virgo with moon in Pisces, you have more of a chill easy going vibe, more open. You don't seem guarded and suspicious which is more a Scorpio riser thing, they have a harder time trusting, more sensitive too even though they don't show it and put on a poker face, virgo riser seems a bit shy and down to earth, good at reading people too like a Scorpio riser but less guarded, more approachable, add mercury in pisces in the 6th rules your chart so you probably integrate very well virgo and pisces into personality and have a nice balance between the two. Do you see the details in the middle of chaos? I wonder if that is how mercury in pisces in the 6th is like?

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posted December 11, 2018 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I thought Virgo...

You look more earthy to me.

I don't really think it's Libra... and Scorpio is a bit more aggressive in their vibe. So if you were Aries with a Scorpio AC... (double the Mars) I think you'd come across as intimidating. But you seem friendly.




That is the sense I am getting too...

If he is scorpio riser there is no earth except neptune in capricorn which is generational but his mars will be in gemini and his rising sign in water so no earth other than neptune and we are definitely picking up earth.

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posted December 11, 2018 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What are you studying? have you picked a major?
Finance and banking

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Do you see the details in the middle of chaos? I wonder if that is how mercury in pisces in the 6th is like?
Yes i do see the details in the middle of a chaos

Many Thanks Hypatia for the help and the hard work analysis i really appreciate it my respect to you.

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posted December 11, 2018 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finance and banking is perfect for Pluto in the 2nd! hahahaha

You are welcome! My pleasure

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posted December 11, 2018 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I have been told by close relatives that i have sharp piercing eyes which makes me think about scorpio.

I don't see the Scorpio vibe in your eyes to be honest. My guess is also Virgo

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posted December 11, 2018 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hu_w_ryl_A     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:

Which sign do you least feel you get? Taurus, Aries or Pisces? Our 7th house sign is our shadow and we don't tend to own those traits and feel irritated by that sign or like we don't quite get them although we also feel attracted to them.

Hi there!

Do you have an opinion on intercepted signs and whether they have a similar effect ?

I have Aquarius / Leo (1st/7th) intercepted and also Aries / Libra (2nd/8th) .. I don’t get Arian people (male and female) nor do I really get Aquarian (especially women) and Libran people
Cancer and Virgo are both in my 7th house as together with Leo and I don‘t feel like they are my shadow while Leo males usually annoy me really bad (haha)

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posted December 11, 2018 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok Kannon i'll do three charts with the 3 Risings, Thank you.

All right. So the thing to do is not take our opinions or subjective reactions based on how you 'look'. Part of what all of us are seeing in your photos is Moon closely opposite Neptune and square Jupiter. Planets in aspect with Moon, Sun, Asc (especially hidden in declination) can modify energy/appearance from what is an obvious example of any rising sign.

Examine the personality mode of expression of each of these rising signs, only eliminating a sign if you just cannot see yourself in it at all. I recommend starting with one rising sign, say Virgo, and reading different astrologers' renderings of it before moving on to the next one. Here's mine:
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs/#virgo
Toss it if it doesn't resonate, and move on to Libra. If none really resonate strongly, it is my advise to go back further and consider Leo.

My other question is: Is this from memory of your family members or was there any kind of written record -- even one near the time that gave a general time fram?

I'm gonna start with that latest time of 7:40 PM to see where the loka planets are located. Solar loka is Mars/Pluto, Lunar is Venus. Often the Lunar loka is the prime loka. However, the Solar loka indicates Pluto near Asc in early Scorpio is possible, and Venus at 9° Pisces can also aspect the Asc and Midheaven of a chart set in early Scorpio like the one displayed.

Due to the position of loka planets Mars and Venus (declination) Asc in late Libra is hypothetically possible. Really from about 18° to the end of Libra.

Then you have to go back to the first five degrees of Libra for a hypothetical possible Asc (that aligns contra-parallel loka planet Pluto, 1N25); also square Moon, opposite Jupiter which would make for a rather emotional, intense, yet outgoing/generous personality.

Asc in last several degrees Virgo is hypothetically possible (parallel Pluto).

After that the hypothetical possibilities only allow Asc in early-mid Virgo where it is opposite/contra-parallel Venus 9° Pisces / 9° south.

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posted December 11, 2018 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In conjunction with what everyone said here about the personality traits. Which is very important.Have you also considered using solar arc theory?

I see that you have planets in 3rd,6th and 9th. So you can use solar arc progressions to track life events.

Events in my chart for example, correspond with progressions on angles and transits emphasized this too.

Look at significant moves,deaths,promotions etc. Go through your life and mark the years that stood out emotionally as paramount.

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posted December 16, 2018 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
My other question is: Is this from memory of your family members or was there any kind of written record -- even one near the time that gave a general time fram?

Many thanks @Kannon and everyone else, its from memory i dont know why they don't write time of birth in my country maybe i should make them do as more people are interested in astrology now.

I'm going to read the different characteristics of each rising on your site and chose the one that resonates more although i'm now almost convinced i'm late degree Virgo rising as @Hypatia said.

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posted December 16, 2018 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
out of the three signs you mentioned I'm gonna go with libra

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