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Brenda_S
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posted December 27, 2018 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know it's considered a minor aspect, but can't help to see it as prominent in my chart due to it being 1 degree apart. And the closest aspect (well Jupiter opposes Saturn exact so I guess they both play a role here).

But curious what it is for you guys. If you or anyone you know have this aspect. Or any input would help of course.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted December 27, 2018 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I know it's considered a minor aspect, ...

Maybe by astrologers who are not up to date in their perspective. The quincunx aka inconjunct is a major aspect, but requires a reduced orb given its proximity to other minor aspects (144°, 154°).

Minor aspects can be overlooked in basic birth chart interpretation. Quincunxes cannot. They are standouts, the only aspects created by a fraction (2-2/5) of the 360° circle rather than a whole number. So they represent important life lessons in soul growth.

Venus quincunx Saturn suggests self-worth issues and a tendency to over-compensate in earning what should be assumed in that way. It is also one of the aspects that can imply ease of guilt or some underlying guilt carried in (karma) that is best understood and cleansed away rather than 'worked off.' The person will have definite standards, yet they may be put in place because of fear of rejection. Saturn in hard/awkward aspects to Moon or Venus virtually always says something about underlying fear, especially of rejection. Caution too easily becomes the rule when dealing with affections and relationships. The real effort can be in the direction of relating and in easing into simple expression of affection rather than holding back what does not have a great force behind it. Those feelings denied expression cannot be satisfactorily invested in work and material reward alone. It is too easy to see relations through the eyes of arrangement than genuine affection. So the lessons are in allowing the little expressions of affection to those persons who you feel natural attraction and relatability. Measured expression of affection, but expression not suppression.

People with this aspect do have an innate understanding of the investment relationships require, and can be very willing to invest in projects or institutions that hold long-term values, but then leave themselves out in the cold when it comes to personal relationships. This aspect is actually asking for that balance to be shifted -- at least eventually -- back to the personal.

It is like a mild opposition that can be turned into a trine -- this lifetime.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 27, 2018 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds by the description that it is eerily similar to Venus-Saturn conjunction.

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Brenda_S
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posted December 27, 2018 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Maybe by astrologers who are not up to date in their perspective. The quincunx aka inconjunct is a major aspect, but requires a reduced orb given its proximity to other minor aspects (144°, 154°).

Minor aspects can be overlooked in basic birth chart interpretation. Quincunxes cannot. They are standouts, the only aspects created by a fraction of the 360° circle rather than a whole number. So they represent important life lessons in soul growth.

Venus quincunx Saturn suggests self-worth issues and a tendency to over-compensate in earning what should be assumed in that way. It is also one of the aspects that can imply ease of guilt or some underlying guilt carried in (karma) that is best understood and cleansed away rather than 'worked off.' The person will have definite standards, yet they may be put in place because of fear of rejection. Saturn in hard/awkward aspects to Moon or Venus virtually always says something about underlying fear, especially of rejection. Caution too easily becomes the rule when dealing with affections and relationships. The real effort can be in the direction of relating and in easing into simple expression of affection rather than holding back what does not have a great force behind it. Those feelings denied expression cannot be satisfactorily invested in work and material reward alone. It is too easy to see relations through the eyes of arrangement than genuine affection. So the lessons are in allowing the little expressions of affection to those persons who you feel natural attraction and relatability. Measured expression of affection, but expression not suppression.

People with this aspect do have an innate understanding of the investment relationships require, and can be very willing to invest in projects or institutions that hold long-term values, but then leave themselves out in the cold when it comes to personal relationships. This aspect is actually asking for that balance to be shifted -- at least eventually -- back to the personal.

It is like a mild opposition that can be turned into a trine -- this lifetime.


Thanks Kannon.

"It is like a mild opposition that can be turned into a trine -- this lifetime."

At least there's hope lol.

The opposition of Jupiter to Saturn (which is essentially a semi-sextile to Venus)... Wondering how that would mitigate it, if at all? Is the inconjunct more powerful than the semi-sextile? I feel sometimes I'm too much and other times too little. (Initially thought it was my Venus Cancer placements which are prone to this behavior too, perhaps it's the Jupiter/Saturn opposition though)

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posted December 27, 2018 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sounds by the description that it is eerily similar to Venus-Saturn conjunction.

Was hoping that not 😏 but you're right. Saturn is frustrating to say the least. The hard aspects mostly.

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posted December 28, 2018 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Thanks Kannon.

"It is like a mild opposition that can be turned into a trine -- this lifetime."

At least there's hope lol.

The opposition of Jupiter to Saturn (which is essentially a semi-sextile to Venus)... Wondering how that would mitigate it, if at all?


The way to mitigate it is to find balance between reserve and long-term interests and expression of real affection and love (to learn the lessons). My description may not hit in on the nail for you, but there is definitely an adjustment that is needed to learn compatibility with others and comfortable closeness. Maybe that is the simpler explanation that I overlooked here: an adjustment in learning compatibility and comfortable closeness.

The Jupiter opposition to Saturn is another lesson in which balance is sought between the poles you have described here of too much vs too little, expression/expansion vs restraint/order.

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Is the inconjunct more powerful than the semi-sextile?

Glad you brought up the semi-sextile. They are actually similar in nature, but the quincunx is stronger due to its more obtuse angle.

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posted January 02, 2019 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

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posted January 03, 2019 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for echos_answer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect too. I tend to think of it as similar to having artist's block. There is an added layer of frustration involved because I *know* how to address the issues it brings up, but I feel blocked and unable to take action. When I'm stuck creatively, typically the things that help me get unstuck are to step back and focus elsewhere, do whatever it takes to relax and remove pressure to perform, and well, whatever the opposite of beating your head against a brick wall is.

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