posted January 16, 2019 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:Well, the thing is that I do feel it. Most intensely really. But its the tendency to ridicule it or not wanting it to "control" me. That is where the limitation comes from.
So say I really like someone. I talk myself "down" from that i.e "They are probably dull" or "they are not intelligent" etc.
But what if you have met him and he is not? It does sound like you are trying to get yourself out of the honeymoon phase in order to keep yourself grounded. You know I do that too in a different way.. I'm like "I know I'll fall for him and he will too but it will end up being an internet relationship at its best. I don't have that problem you are mentioning like others not being intelligent etc, I sense immediately someone so it's like I already know and till now I've been correct.
Does it happen often to you? Getting excited and then disappointed?
I think for you being earnest and sincere is important. External gestures like flowers and dates mean NOTHING if done for their own sake. They are just tokens Not sincere. I feel that way too.
And Uranus dislikes the cliche. So its not that dates are hated per se. But you need to add character to the date i.e bungee jumping on a date, a date on a boat, rock climbing on a date etc. Make it unusual.
I actually have problem with the one to one.. All my "dates" have been always with friends. Lile me and my friend and him and his friend or even more.
The only ones that I've gone out alone with are my male friends. I don't have a problem with that because they're my friends.
Dates feel a bit awkward not in a cute way though.
Have you met men with Cap Venus or Venus in hard aspect to Saturn? Yes. One Aquarian with Venus/Saturn sqaure ran for the hills. I think our attraction to each other was too intense. So he ran. It was making him fumble 
That is so adorable <3
I think it's common to Venus-Saturn people actually. I adore it when they are awkward/shy and stuff they are like babies. So cute and innocent.
Well ime the Venus/Saturn aspect in women may either give them a reputation of being "ice queen" or "ice princess". Or make her very desirable to men due to her seemingly "aloof" exterior which to men translates as a "challenge".
I know of a lady with the opposition who aint married(44). She claims to unimpressed with most men. People suspect she is actually gay. But i think that she just has very high standards that she will not compromise on on one hand.
But i also think that there is trepidation and fear in opening herself up to others because she fears being rejected. So it leads her to "reject" othes first and be intolerant of them etc.
For men, this Venus/Saturn aspect.can be an advantage. As it tends to give men this exterior aloofness and coolness that drive women/other men wild because they assume the cool exterior belies a hot interior etc. Its seldom so ofcourse. As they are soon to find out.
I have to agree here with this aspect making someone look serious, aloof and daddy like.
However I think that the hot interior is real unless it's because I experienced this aspect with watery Moon signs.
In my case I'm attracted to them because I feel like they will not rush me, them being cool and aloof makes me feel so comfortable plus I can get my time which I need since I'm slow. I don't feel like I suffocate and they don't come closer fast which is ideal.
The fear of rejection applies to both men and women (at least I can say men for sure). They can feel rejected even when they are actually not. Plus low self esteem.
In women it makes sense being difficult/hard to get however it is very disappointing, Men may be attracted to the chase and when they get what they want they might get bored even if they aren't that type of men typically.
I am interested in seeing this woman's chart if it's possible of course. Did she ever had a relationship?
With regards to Venus/Mars in aspect, I find that it tends to give women a tendency to be impatient on "waiting" for the guy to initiate etc. So they may "wear" the pants ane appear sexually(Venus) aggressive(Mars).
With men, it tends towards them being players because they are spoiled choice(especially when in Libra). So it can give "player" tendencies. But also possible is a tendency for the guy to be bullyish (to both men and women) i.e "jock" type tendencies.
Sometimes however to others, this contact of Venus/Mars can come off as aggressive(Mars) charm(Venus).
I have Venus/ Mars in mutual reception. And it plays off like Venus/Mars conjunction.
My tendency is to be tempted very easily to cheat 
But its Saturn also involved with Venus that inhibits that and keeps things in check. So i remain quite faithful throughout relationships.
I agree about this aspect making men players.
About women I don't know.. I wasn't tempted to cheat even in those internet relationships I had hahah. Seriously. and I mean cheat with another online man hahah
Although I'm not aggressive or making the first move I need someone who won't push me especially in the sexual part but I feel like it's more my Aqua Saturn in 8th H. So I definately don't want someone on the aggressive side. I don't have a problem making a move tbh it's just that the ones I happen to like did it first.
The Moon signs you listed that you liked are mostly feminine water or ruled by Venus.
This suggests that you like an open atmosphere of emotional sharing and bonding.
How do you feel for Aqua Moon in 4th though? It gives a mix of both air and water energy. In that the person expresses how they feel with words.
I like water and air mixed. Very well spoken ime. With Cap Moon,the constant suppression or impassive nature can get me down.
But more than that, the words they say. They can cut me to the core because they are said in such a callous and ABSOLUTE manner.
One Cap Moon said to me "You need me more than I need you. So I am the one who doesn't benefit much from you" 
I broke up with him on the same day and cried. Coz I really liked him.
He denies saying all that and says that I "overreacted" etc. And thats another issue with Cap, anyone.with a pulse or passion is "overemotional" or is "overreacting".
They are always the reasonable, stable and "wise" ones who know better than most. Aih!!! 
Hmmm that's weird with the Cap Moon, I'm wondering if it has to do more with their Mercury?
The Cap Moons I know are on the colder side externally and they judge someone based on their status/money.. I mean it's a deciding factor for their relationships. Especially girls I can say for sure since I know a few girls with Cap Moon. They won't say it in someone's face by any means but when we are talking they might like someone more personality or appearnce wise but they will decide to go with the one who they don't like as much but has money, pays their date etc.
I think how they express themselves has to do with Mercury. One I know with Mercury in hard aspect to Neptune lies a lot for example.
Also Moon in Cap makes the person have low self esteem too.
I don't think they say things that they don't really mean (tbh I think majority of times if not always people when are upset say truths that they don't have the guts to say when they are not upset. Or maybe they don't because they have some kind of benefit or don't want to hurt you at best).
And then they say they overeacted or they didn't mean it to justify themselves or to not deal with the drama after.
I'm a bit like that myself in a way, I don't want to be the one to take or to just give. That's why I am independent and I don't like sharing etc. I also dislike depending on others because I feel it makes me spoiled and unfair like I'm takimg advantage of him unless it's clear deal like I'm doing this and in exchange you'll do that.
But deciding to be with someone or to somehow measure the relationship by who benefits the most is a bit cheap and it's offending unless someone does it obviously (gold diggers).
However sometimes things may sound differently or worse than how someone intended to say them.
I don't know about Aqua Moon in 4th H specifically. However I know a lot of Aqua Moons and it's a no unless it's a friendship.
Can you believe that I actually don't like it when someone expresses his emotions with words?
It makes me feel like I suffocate and I wanna run away which is silly because I already sense his feelings and I enjoy it since I also have intense feeling for that person.
However Scorpio Moons are also intense, deep and we don't really need any words to communicate just looking at their eyes is enough to communicate especially when it comes to emotional matters.
Maybe that is why I also love Scorpio and Aqua Mercury because they are not very expressive.
Part of it must be because I sense someone's feelings it's so clear to me. For example once there had been a guy who was very cool and would never show in anyway that he was interested in one of my friends.. He was treating all of us the same and he was like he didn't actually like anyone of us in that way. I had told them that he likes friend A for sure and they were all like.. no way. After about a year or so we learned from a friend of his that he had fallen for her since the start.
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