posted January 12, 2019 06:06 PM            

In my case, I have Saturn in the 11th House and I hate showing off anything related to material because it makes me feel so uncomfortable. And my Leo Sun is in the 2nd House ... I do love to spend and value quality over quantity though. If I cannot afford to stay at 4 (preferably 5) star hotel, I'd rather delay a 10-day all-inclusive luxurious vacation for 6-12 months and save money instead of staying at a cheap resort. To be honest, the likelihood of me even being to fall asleep on their mattress would be low.

posted January 12, 2019 06:26 PM            

Saturn and Neptune definitely make 11th house issues difficult. I don't usually like flaunting anything I do have, but I also have a sort of mystifying effect- people often assume I'm a lot more well off than I am or ever have been.

11th house also deals with groups and societies, and with Saturn and Neptune I find boundaries are often tricky to navigate. Friendships have seemed great and then been torn out from under me (and vice versa, though I do my best to communicate an issue prior to if I notice it).

North Node is somewhat similar; lots of 'learning' (Saturn) how society and dreams and aspirations (Neptune) work. It's very unknown territory to me, but I have a very strong love for Aquarius/Uranian vibes of the 11th in general.

posted January 12, 2019 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Nothing in 11th House.
I have low Income, no Gains & don't have any Desire now.

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posted January 13, 2019 12:47 AM            

Never had an income, never worked for money long term, still live with my parents.

posted January 13, 2019 01:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Aww I'm sorry to hear that! What's going on with your 2nd House of Accumulated Wealth? What sign is on the cusp and its ruler?

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According to Placidious House System I have Fortuna Conjunct Venus Conjunct Moon and NN Conjunct Mercury in 2nd House in Gemini/Cancer(depends on Zodiac). Fortuna, Venus and Moon pretty close to 2nd House Cusp. Still not good at earning yet 36 years old.

posted January 13, 2019 08:53 AM            

I think Jupiter in 11th brings me lots of friends and important associations, people who always stretch a helping hand in career. I don't see big money although I used to draw a very comfortable salary. No luck in gambling though.

Saturn in 2nd makes me very conscious of accumulating my wealth. I always feel that I don't have enough even though I have. I've my own home, savings in the bank...yet I constantly fear going broke.

posted January 13, 2019 10:29 PM            

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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
11th house isn't really geared towards material gain. Its more about ones asperations and societal connections. Money is ruled by the 2nd, actual success is 10th.

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posted January 20, 2019 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Hi, I have Venus, Mars and Jupiter in the 11th house, Pluto in the 2nt house

Never had an income, never worked for money long term, still live with my parents.

So I should not worry? Ima get the money?
I actually don't wprry, but am nervous and anxious for it

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posted January 20, 2019 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
You've never had an income? That's weird, have you ever had a job?

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Hi Leo-Cancer98,

I am a Leo/Cancer person too! I have this 3 planets I've listed in Leo and my Sun is Cancer.

Yes I know it os weaird, I am turning 28 this year and, no, never had a job, like working month after month, never had a working rythm

I smoke pot maybe thats a reason why
I still live with my parents. We have a land, and I help here and there but not constantly.

And funny enough I have Sun spot on my MC!

I do have acomplished some thinks in my life like building a dog house or a chiken house xD

Like I can do much when I want to do something, and I know how to work

posted January 20, 2019 05:03 PM            

There is for sure a hidden family story.. all my chart leads to my 4th house (leo stelium > cancer sun > pieces moon > neptune cap./ 4th house)
Uranus and Saturn are also in my 4th house.
Something with my Mother... I have sun Mc / she has Sun IC and other similaryties we both are fire/water

It came to the point wherw I guess I intimidate them, my father dont reaöy knows how to aproach me
He must have his worrys because 2k17 when he was in germany (father german /mother brazilian) he did a family constelation, thos therapy where you sit in a group and there is you that makes the question and the therapy guy than sort people, so one will represent your father the pther one your.mother and so on

So his question was directly involving me, like: what is yan's attotude towards the family, smtgh like that

I never knew what the result was, he only sayd ot was "krass" like "wow" and that I should talk to my mother or smtgh
He said we should wait ao it couöd settle down, but 2 years passed, he never came back to me to talk about it, 2 days ago I came back to it but no sucess, I Think they actually ger nervous when I ask about it

But yeah, this.guy that made the therapy, the guide, the onw that was offering it, had lunch with my Father and the sis of my Father , that helps the therapist.
So it was the therapist himself that brought up my name again and said ot is very important that I get finacialy responsable for myself, like have mx own money.

posted January 20, 2019 05:46 PM            

Another way too common placement is the 10th H. If it's not Aqua it's 10th H placements.
I see how money is naturally linked with the 10th H of work/status etc.. However it's quite the opposite when it comes to Capricorns or hard Saturn aspects, those people usually strugle with money even though they work hard..
It's weird how it works like that..
So it's Aqua but not Aqua's house or its ruler's aspects and it's the 10th H but not its ruler Saturn or its sign Capricorn.

I have never seen someone beeing financially comfortable with 2nd H placements. Not even once (including myself with Jupiter, Venus and Mars all in Leo and in my 2nd H, I was always poor just not to the point that I didn't have a home and food).

I don't see how 2nd H is linked with money at all anymore.. It just doesn't work at least not by itself luke the other two I mentioned.

A few othwr things I've observed

• Pluto in 4th H indicates wealthy family

• Jupiter/Pluto in 8th H people are lucky because they get materials/money from others.
I know someone who is poor but somehow she's in the right place the right time and she lives a life like she is wealthy (I'm not talking about her having sex with rich people of course). I think another person in this forum with Pluto or Jupiter in his/her 8th H mentioned something very similar.
Even there I have Saturn 😁😁

• Jupiter in 7th H although nit as strong as the others people with this aspect get materials from their relationship. The worse case I know is a friemd who was very poor but she fell for someone who wasn't financially comfortable, he had a bit more than thhe basics.. Somehow she ended up having a big house, having him doing the boring stuff while he was the one working plus he gave her money to buy things she wouldn't be able otherwise becais eshe didn't work. And that's the worst case the others with this placement are better.

I've heard about Pluto in aspect to Venus or Jupiter but I have them both (square) plus Jupiter and Venus are in 2nd and I pray I'll be able at some point to work just for the very basics.. I'm already 27 almost 28.

posted September 16, 2022 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Hi, I have Venus, Mars and Jupiter in the 11th house, Pluto in the 2nt house

Never had an income, never worked for money long term, still live with my parents.

So I should not worry? Ima get the money?
I actually don't wprry, but am nervous and anxious for it

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posted September 16, 2022 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I believe people with at least 2 personal planets in Aqua will somehow be financially comfortable unless there are heavy negative aspects. I don't even know how many wealthy Aquas I know at this point.
However I haven't noticed the same with people who have planets in 11th H or Uranian people at all (myself included).

Another way too common placement is the 10th H. If it's not Aqua it's 10th H placements.
I see how money is naturally linked with the 10th H of work/status etc.. However it's quite the opposite when it comes to Capricorns or hard Saturn aspects, those people usually strugle with money even though they work hard..
It's weird how it works like that..
So it's Aqua but not Aqua's house or its ruler's aspects and it's the 10th H but not its ruler Saturn or its sign Capricorn.

I have never seen someone beeing financially comfortable with 2nd H placements. Not even once (including myself with Jupiter, Venus and Mars all in Leo and in my 2nd H, I was always poor just not to the point that I didn't have a home and food).

I don't see how 2nd H is linked with money at all anymore.. It just doesn't work at least not by itself luke the other two I mentioned.

A few othwr things I've observed

• Pluto in 4th H indicates wealthy family

• Jupiter/Pluto in 8th H people are lucky because they get materials/money from others.
I know someone who is poor but somehow she's in the right place the right time and she lives a life like she is wealthy (I'm not talking about her having sex with rich people of course). I think another person in this forum with Pluto or Jupiter in his/her 8th H mentioned something very similar.
Even there I have Saturn 😁😁

• Jupiter in 7th H although nit as strong as the others people with this aspect get materials from their relationship. The worse case I know is a friemd who was very poor but she fell for someone who wasn't financially comfortable, he had a bit more than thhe basics.. Somehow she ended up having a big house, having him doing the boring stuff while he was the one working plus he gave her money to buy things she wouldn't be able otherwise becais eshe didn't work. And that's the worst case the others with this placement are better.

I've heard about Pluto in aspect to Venus or Jupiter but I have them both (square) plus Jupiter and Venus are in 2nd and I pray I'll be able at some point to work just for the very basics.. I'm already 27 almost 28.

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posted September 16, 2022 04:51 PM            

I think of 2nd house as Money that is made through one's own effort. It could be throug one's own personal business or through work. Its "living" cash. Cash to pay bills and self sustain.

2nd house cash is not like 8th house cash. Here its the cash of others that you live on i.e inheritance, being a beneficiary for something, spousal support, family allowance, lottery winner or returns on investments etc.

11th house cash (I take it) comes from being part of a group or making money through connections and being a member if an "elite" club(and yes, they do exist). These days (and perhaps never) there is no such thing as "self made" billionaire (No.Not even Kylie Jenner).

These people in the 11th house often know each other and are very exclusive. So no Mpho, Johan or Ntombi will make it in. I think that it is actually this group in the 11th house whose wealth is what is written about in conspiracy theory books. That they "own" the world i.e Rothschild, Rockefeller etc.

Pluto in 4th may suggest a powerful family that can seal one's fate (for better or worse). It could be through wealth or connection. Evee hears people saying "they come from Old money" or "they are related to ..."?

Typically people with Pluto in 4th may hahave ce issues with their family. Pluto is not a good energy to have in house 4.

If the famly is wealthy, the native may feel trapped by its wealth and resent being "enslaved" by it i.e they can't be they want to be, marry who they want, be friends with whomever they choose or escape and live in anynomity etc. because everything is dictated to them. Their family tells them how to live ans controls them through psychological conditioning.

It may sound like an old cliche of sour grapes ". But its true ime with the ones I am exposed to: The rich are not nearly as happy or content as most of us imagine rhey are☝🏿

Should they "escape" the family name, Plu in 4th suggests starting one's own "lineage " or building one's own name/wealth from scratch. Free from psychological enslavement and rules.

posted September 19, 2022 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Hii! Has your predicament improved since your response?

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3 years have passend xD
Nothing much changed , i do a bit Here and there and Help with the family belongings, we own a House some Land...