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Topic: Plutonians and children/ animals
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AnneFrank Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 18, 2019 08:26 AM
How do you feel towards having children or spending time with children in general?I've seen some Plutonians say that animals and kids 'know' them while most people are scared of them and freak out. As far as I know, Hades had no children with Persephone. Does this relate you in any way, like adoptions/ abortions etc? Do you obsessively desire kids/ animals? IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 7010 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted January 18, 2019 08:52 AM
I get along very well with kids, they love my company too as far as I can tell, I'm sure my childish Gemini Moon, Moon/Mars :embarrassed: , Mercury/Venus and yada yada helps a lot in this.As far as having kids, I don't think I'll have them, I think I'm far too focused on myself to have kids really, I do consider children a big responsibility, that said I do have my platonic children though, I think my Sun conjunct Saturn is a magnet for plenty of people with Daddy issues(I have found that Saturn in 12th and Sun/Neptune is quite common in their charts) , some even call me "Daddy" and I even like it . Animals? well I've been called an animal too but lets not go there, but I am fond of animals very much, always wanted to meet a tiger face to face provided that it should not eat me., also like staring at unknown cats' eyes for a long time until it pi$$e$ them off provided that they are on the other side of the window(don't wanna damage my face, even if I have good reflexes hell hath no fury like a cat scorned). Get along well with dogs but I find dogs a tad boring than other animals, coz I'm far too familiar with them maybe, I like them a bit wild(not meaning wild-dogs) . There was this dog in my neighbourhood which they found in the jungle, which had all of its instinct totally sharp, now that kind of dog I'd love to get along with . IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 361 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 18, 2019 09:00 AM
Ive always had pets and now I recently became mommy to my sweet daughter.Its true I feel very connected to most animals. Its always been that way. Im very empathic towards their pain.. sometimes more than with people. Idk I guess animals have pure souls, thats why. Theyre innocent and need our protection. I feel the same way about children, although the desire to actually become a mother came rather late. Ive had reservations towards that.. because of the responsibility. IP: Logged |
AnneFrank Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 18, 2019 09:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: I get along very well with kids, they love my company too as far as I can tell, I'm sure my childish Gemini Moon, Moon/Mars :embarrassed: , Mercury/Venus and yada yada helps a lot in this.As far as having kids, I don't think I'll have them, I think I'm far too focused on myself to have kids really, I do consider children a big responsibility, that said I do have my platonic children though, I think my Sun conjunct Saturn is a magnet for plenty of people with Daddy issues(I have found that Saturn in 12th and Sun/Neptune is quite common in their charts) , some even call me "Daddy" and I even like it . Animals? well I've been called an animal too but lets not go there, but I am fond of animals very much, always wanted to meet a tiger face to face provided that it should not eat me., also like staring at unknown cats' eyes for a long time until it pi$$e$ them off provided that they are on the other side of the window(don't wanna damage my face, even if I have good reflexes hell hath no fury like a cat scorned). Get along well with dogs but I find dogs a tad boring than other animals, coz I'm far too familiar with them maybe, I like them a bit wild(not meaning wild-dogs) . There was this dog in my neighbourhood which they found in the jungle, which had all of its instinct totally sharp, now that kind of dog I'd love to get along with .
Hello! Thanks a lot for the interesting reply! Plutonians understand other people's emotions VERY deeply Did you ever feel kids could create a distance between you and your partner? What are your Plutonian aspects? IP: Logged |
AnneFrank Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 18, 2019 09:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by ana_bee: Ive always had pets and now I recently became mommy to my sweet daughter.Its true I feel very connected to most animals. Its always been that way. Im very empathic towards their pain.. sometimes more than with people. Idk I guess animals have pure souls, thats why. Theyre innocent and need our protection. I feel the same way about children, although the desire to actually become a mother came rather late. Ive had reservations towards that.. because of the responsibility.
Congratulations on being a mommy! Lots of love to your daughter Did you ever feel kids could create a distance between you and your partner? What are your plutonian aspects? IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted January 18, 2019 10:10 AM
Ive least had a deep connection with animals. When I was a child I wanted to be a veterinarian. I recently gave up eating meat about 6 months ago. Ive been using cruelty free products for the last 4-5 years. I have a side business as a family and pet photographer. And I volunteer at a local animal shelter as a photographer to help their animals gets adopted. When I am at the dog park it is common for dogs to come straight to me. If I sit down they will hover for a bit around me. One by one theyll come up to me to say hi and get a pet. I dont see this happening with other people there- yes some will come up to other people. But not the way that they all do with me, when they all come up and hang out with me for a bit. Animals have always gravitated to me and I have always loved them. I am a Pisces sun moon and mercury (conjunction within 0-1) in the 8th house, all trine Pluto by 3. Pluto also squares my ascendant as well by 1. IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 361 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 18, 2019 10:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by AnneFrank: Congratulations on being a mommy! Lots of love to your daughter Did you ever feel kids could create a distance between you and your partner? What are your plutonian aspects?
Thanks😘 My aspects are: Scorpio Asc conj Pluto(12th) Pluto trine Sun Scorpio Asc trine Sun Moon in 8th Scorpio SN Good question!! Since im a single parent right now, im not in this position. But usually my love is very focused. I tend to give one person my whole attention. I wouldnt worry about my partner .. its a different kind of love. I find it hard to imagine to have a second child though!! There could indeed be a problem of focusing too much attention on one of them and feeling guilty for seemingly not giving enough to the other. Thats why I never had two pets at a time.
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Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 165 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted January 18, 2019 12:12 PM
I actually never wanted children when I was young. I have 2 now and I'm very protective mother. They call me mama bear 😂. It's funny because my family treats my children differently than they treat my sister's or brother's. I don't mean better, just different. They know I'm the boss and I'm raising them, no one else. I have Pluto conjunct moon exact, opposite mercury and sextile Neptune with a stellium in scorpio. I've had animals of all kinds my whole life, especially cats. I foster kittens and am known for my "magic" with bottle feeding them and keeping them healthy. That comes from my conjunction and stellium being in the 6th house. I don't connect very well with other people's kids though. I have a sixth sense when it comes to animals, even wild ones. IP: Logged |
AnneFrank Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 18, 2019 01:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: Ive least had a deep connection with animals. When I was a child I wanted to be a veterinarian. I recently gave up eating meat about 6 months ago. Ive been using cruelty free products for the last 4-5 years. I have a side business as a family and pet photographer. And I volunteer at a local animal shelter as a photographer to help their animals gets adopted. When I am at the dog park it is common for dogs to come straight to me. If I sit down they will hover for a bit around me. One by one theyll come up to me to say hi and get a pet. I dont see this happening with other people there- yes some will come up to other people. But not the way that they all do with me, when they all come up and hang out with me for a bit. Animals have always gravitated to me and I have always loved them. I am a Pisces sun moon and mercury (conjunction within 0-1) in the 8th house, all trine Pluto by 3. Pluto also squares my ascendant as well by 1.
Thanks! Do you have children? (If I may ask) Do you think children could create a distance between you and your partner? IP: Logged |
AnneFrank Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 18, 2019 01:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by ana_bee: Thanks😘My aspects are: Scorpio Asc conj Pluto(12th) Pluto trine Sun Scorpio Asc trine Sun Moon in 8th Scorpio SN Good question!! Since im a single parent right now, im not in this position. But usually my love is very focused. I tend to give one person my whole attention. I wouldnt worry about my partner .. its a different kind of love. I find it hard to imagine to have a second child though!! There could indeed be a problem of focusing too much attention on one of them and feeling guilty for seemingly not giving enough to the other. Thats why I never had two pets at a time.
This is the reply I was waiting for! Nice job reading me Miss Plutonian (I have Pluto in my 5th house lol) And what about a kid and a pet? Haha IP: Logged |
AnneFrank Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 18, 2019 01:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dons2angelss: I actually never wanted children when I was young. I have 2 now and I'm very protective mother. They call me mama bear 😂. It's funny because my family treats my children differently than they treat my sister's or brother's. I don't mean better, just different. They know I'm the boss and I'm raising them, no one else. I have Pluto conjunct moon exact, opposite mercury and sextile Neptune with a stellium in scorpio. I've had animals of all kinds my whole life, especially cats. I foster kittens and am known for my "magic" with bottle feeding them and keeping them healthy. That comes from my conjunction and stellium being in the 6th house. I don't connect very well with other people's kids though. I have a sixth sense when it comes to animals, even wild ones.
Your kids have given you such a cute name! Do you feel that kids could create a distance between you and your partner? (If I may ask) Your sixth sense is very enviable considering I get attacked by cattle many times XD without doing anything! IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 165 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted January 18, 2019 01:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by AnneFrank: Your kids have given you such a cute name! Do you feel that kids could create a distance between you and your partner? (If I may ask) Your sixth sense is very enviable considering I get attacked by cattle many times XD without doing anything!
My kids didn't give me that nickname lol. Everyone else did. They're still pretty young but they still know! And yes, I very much feel like that. I keep my kids separate from other parts of my life. My nn is conjunct my ascendant exact so I prefer to do things myself anyway. Their father and I aren't together but he still has a big role in their life though. I've only been bitten by a dog once when I was little and that was my fault. He was going after a cat and I was just in the way. Animals just flock to me, cats (mainly) deer, and birds (especially owls and crows). Other than the dog, I don't think I've ever felt afraid or knew an animal wanted to hurt me. IP: Logged |
implosions Knowflake Posts: 332 From: canada Registered: Aug 2017
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posted January 18, 2019 01:55 PM
I grew up surrounded by kids! Not just my own siblings, though my two younger sibs were born when I was 2 and then 4. (I have an older brother, but he's over a decade older).I also grew up in day cares/day camps, after school care, etc during my elementary school years, and when I started high school I moved into a family member's home who ran a daycare out of it. During a portion of HS as well I could not escape the bullying from my peers so I ended up spending a lot of time with the elementary/kindergarten children during most of my 8th grade year. Since leaving HS though my interaction with children grew very small. I find myself somewhat uneasy around them for long periods of time, but mostly in a mentally draining way. I can easily connect to most kids, though I find as I get older they get a little more intimidated/nervous around me. I have Pluto conjunct the Sun however, and Uranus conjunct my MC so I don't doubt my energy to them is 'whoa who the heck'. That being said I do have CERES right on my DSC so I have a knack for trying to parent any child (or person) I see, anyway. I can get REALLY protective over them too- especially if I don't think their parents are doing a healthy job taking care of them, but apart from getting nosy with my brother and his kids, I would never force myself into a situation (unless the child was in immediate danger or something). IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted January 18, 2019 02:14 PM
I adore children and animals, Sun in virgo, venus conjunct mars in Leo in the 8th.Kids tend to smile at me and tend to really like me automatically but I don't think that is my plutonic influence, I think is the leo influence and my moon in pisces which happens to rule my 8th. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 1501 From: Λ Ἄρης Λ Registered: Jan 2013
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posted January 18, 2019 03:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by AnneFrank:
I've seen some Plutonians say that animals and kids 'know' them while most people are scared of them and freak out.
I don't consider myself plutonian but i had this in our big family meetings, little young members of the family come to me like a magnet in a room full of adults even if they see me for the first time. trust me i dont do anything funny. IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 1327 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted January 18, 2019 04:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by AnneFrank: Did you ever feel kids could create a distance between you and your partner? What are your plutonian aspects?
Oh my! I had to reply to this because this is exactly what I have felt and thought for years! Ever since I when I reached the age of 18. I started to think and feel, "why would someone ever wanna have kids? Its just makes one loose focus on ones partner, and it would be a barrier between me and him!". I mean, I wanna have his undivided attention, and give him my full attention aswell. I always felt it was very weird of me to feel like that. As if one would become jelous of ones partners attention, going to ones child. I mean, thats a bit twisted and weird. But alas, thats what I have felt my whole adult life. I just believe, one does not need a child in ones life or marriage to feel complete and fullfilled.
I guess, maybe this thoughts would change upon meeting the right partner. They are disturbing to the least. I'm plutonian. My 5th house Cap is ruled by Saturn. I like children though. They always gravitate to me, I have good connection with most children I meet and I'm very interested in how a childs mind works. IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 1327 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted January 18, 2019 04:51 PM
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polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted January 18, 2019 07:01 PM
I'm not really a big 'children' person. But I never really grew up with younger kids. I'm getting better as I get older, I'm 33 now, almost 34 and I just got married. I do want kids, and I'm sure I'll just love them to pieces. But for now, I just don't really know how to act or what to say around them. IP: Logged |
Somna7H Knowflake Posts: 818 From: East India Company Registered: Apr 2018
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posted January 18, 2019 07:42 PM
Though I have no Kid of my own but Kids and Pets like me. Not sure how Plutonium I am but got lots of Aspetcs of Pluto in Chart.------------------ My Chart : http://imgur.com/hCRDawD IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted January 18, 2019 07:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Somna7H: Though I have no Kid of my own but Kids and Pets like me. Not sure how Plutonium I am but got lots of Aspetcs of Pluto in Chart.
You also have sun in cancer and moon conjunct venus in cancer!!! Its bc of that. IP: Logged |
Somna7H Knowflake Posts: 818 From: East India Company Registered: Apr 2018
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posted January 18, 2019 08:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: You also have sun in cancer and moon conjunct venus in cancer!!! Its bc of that.
Thank you for letting know the real reason. IP: Logged |
AnneFrank Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 19, 2019 01:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dons2angelss: My kids didn't give me that nickname lol. Everyone else did. They're still pretty young but they still know! And yes, I very much feel like that. I keep my kids separate from other parts of my life. My nn is conjunct my ascendant exact so I prefer to do things myself anyway. Their father and I aren't together but he still has a big role in their life though. I've only been bitten by a dog once when I was little and that was my fault. He was going after a cat and I was just in the way. Animals just flock to me, cats (mainly) deer, and birds (especially owls and crows). Other than the dog, I don't think I've ever felt afraid or knew an animal wanted to hurt me.
I seec very interesting Is their father a Plutonian as well? IP: Logged |
AnneFrank Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 19, 2019 01:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Melinn: Oh my! I had to reply to this because this is exactly what I have felt and thought for years! Ever since I when I reached the age of 18. I started to think and feel, "why would someone ever wanna have kids? Its just makes one loose focus on ones partner, and it would be a barrier between me and him!".I mean, I wanna have his undivided attention, and give him my full attention aswell. I always felt it was very weird of me to feel like that. As if one would become jelous of ones partners attention, going to ones child. I mean, thats a bit twisted and weird. But alas, thats what I have felt my whole adult life. I just believe, one does not need a child in ones life or marriage to feel complete and fullfilled.
I guess, maybe this thoughts would change upon meeting the right partner. They are disturbing to the least. I'm plutonian. My 5th house Cap is ruled by Saturn. I like children though. They always gravitate to me, I have good connection with most children I meet and I'm very interested in how a childs mind works.
Finally I found someone who thinks like me! Well, it's scientifically proved that kids cause stress on the marriage so we aren't wrong and I agree with undivided attention as well! What I always felt was that kids could be on our minds all the time. Like they're so energetic and this can lead to lack of quality time that I can spend together with him. I have Capricorn DSC so I think he'll focus only on kids and not on me. Many people get pressurized to have kids and that is very uncomfortable. People need to realize kids aren't necessary to feel fulfilled tbh. I have Sagittarius Pluto in 5th with Capricorn DSC and I attract Plutonian people a lot hehe Lastly, I don't want love letters to be replaced with grocery lists and romantic time to be replaced by discussions over children IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 1327 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted January 20, 2019 03:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by AnneFrank: Finally I found someone who thinks like me! Well, it's scientifically proved that kids cause stress on the marriage so we aren't wrong and I agree with undivided attention as well! What I always felt was that kids could be on our minds all the time. Like they're so energetic and this can lead to lack of quality time that I can spend together with him. I have Capricorn DSC so I think he'll focus only on kids and not on me. Many people get pressurized to have kids and that is very uncomfortable. People need to realize kids aren't necessary to feel fulfilled tbh. I have Sagittarius Pluto in 5th with Capricorn DSC and I attract Plutonian people a lot hehe Lastly, I don't want love letters to be replaced with grocery lists and romantic time to be replaced by discussions over children
Yay! A like minded! Yes thats how I always felt. Like, children will not help with the romance. A child would not make our bond more strong, imo it would make ones bond weaker, but thats my opinion. I also am uranian, meaning uranus makes many aspects to my personal planets, like moon-mars-sun-mercury etc. My Juno is aquarius. So on top of being plutonian first at foremost, and craving emotional and physical intymacy, I also need to feel freedom, to be able to breath, be in my own mind , do the things I want without a child holding me back etc. A child would restrict all that big time.. IP: Logged |
Nadja Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Finland Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 20, 2019 05:15 PM
I'm probably as much a Neptunian as I am Plutonian, but they connect to each other and to the same other planets so the energies mingle...To begin with, I'm asexual, aromantic and completely disinterested in having children. It's just not something that will ever happen. I'm not particularily find of children at all really. They do seem drawn to me though. I have a fairly good intuition regarding people in general. I understand people on an instinctive level. But the company of people tires me out after a while... adults or children, doesn't matter. But animals, especially dogs, they recharge me. I have a deep bond with my dogs, much deeper than with any human, and my intuition works much better with dogs than with humans. I understand their needs, fears and so on. And they seem to 'get' me as well. I don't ever want to live without dogs! My Plutonian aspects: - Pluto in Scorpio 1st house (or 2nd depending on house system) - Pluto trine 9th house Mars/Mercury/MC - Pluto sextile 3rd house Neptune/IC - Pluto sextile 12th house Moon - Chart ruler Venus unaspected in 8th house
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