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Hikaru29
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posted January 19, 2019 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For my upcoming Solar Return, I've SR South Node/Saturn/Pluto conjunct in 12H Capricorn, and they (except SN) are also conjunct SR Ascendant. All of these fall into my natal 8H.

I know whenever Saturn-Node is involved, it indicates something karmic, but in this case what does it mean, esp it's on the Ascendant as well? The fact that they fall in SR 12H gets me very worried.

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posted January 20, 2019 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hikaru29
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posted January 22, 2019 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hikaru29
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posted January 31, 2019 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

Anybody, pls?

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Dons2angelss
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posted January 31, 2019 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like some serious changes are headed your way. That's going to be a really hard one to decipher without seeing the whole chart. Do you have a link?

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Hikaru29
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posted January 31, 2019 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Sounds like some serious changes are headed your way. That's going to be a really hard one to decipher without seeing the whole chart. Do you have a link?

Is it terminal, doctor?
And I also have my SR name asteroid conjunct Juno in 6H, both conjunct natal Karma.

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posted January 31, 2019 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VERY interesting... along with Juno and your name asteroid conjunct Karma, SR Valentine is right on natal Venus, along with SR Mars, with Venus at the midpoint of both, SR Jupiter is right on natal Valentine, natal Uranus is on SR midheaven, SR Union is on natal Cupido, SR Venus on natal Jupiter, SR Karma on natal Lilith, Vesta, and Amor... definitely change is in store for you and a huge focus on your love life is quite likely (if the other name asteroid in your chart is the person you're interested in or are with, it's a good sign as that name asteroid is having its return at the same time).

As for the 12th house stuff, I actually consider planets on a house cusp to be in that house, even moreso with a planet like Pluto, which is another sign of change. Pluto is closer to the ascendant than Saturn and it is further than Saturn in the sky (meaning it moves slower), which means that its influence should be more prevalent than Saturn's. I definitely wouldn't consider Pluto to be in the 12th house and if the degrees are tight enough, I might even consider Saturn and the South Node to be in the first house as well. Also, a 12th house influence can also point to a more compassionate nature, it doesn't always mean bad things will happen.

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posted January 31, 2019 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kewf1988:
VERY interesting... along with Juno and your name asteroid conjunct Karma, SR Valentine is right on natal Venus, along with SR Mars, with Venus at the midpoint of both, SR Jupiter is right on natal Valentine, natal Uranus is on SR midheaven, SR Union is on natal Cupido, SR Venus on natal Jupiter, SR Karma on natal Lilith, Vesta, and Amor... definitely change is in store for you and a huge focus on your love life is quite likely (if the other name asteroid in your chart is the person you're interested in or are with, it's a good sign as that name asteroid is having its return at the same time).

As for the 12th house stuff, I actually consider planets on a house cusp to be in that house, even moreso with a planet like Pluto, which is another sign of change. Pluto is closer to the ascendant than Saturn and it is further than Saturn in the sky (meaning it moves slower), which means that its influence should be more prevalent than Saturn's. I definitely wouldn't consider Pluto to be in the 12th house and if the degrees are tight enough, I might even consider Saturn and the South Node to be in the first house as well. Also, a 12th house influence can also point to a more compassionate nature, it doesn't always mean bad things will happen.


I look at all these conjunctions and I feel it in my core that something major is gonna happen... and it looks happy? 🙏 So glad that those planets in 12H don't spell doom.

Yes, the other name is the guy I love and have been seeing for the last 8 mths.

I see interesting conjunctions in his chart as well...

Currently my SR name asteroid is on his SR Asc, both conjunct natal Valentine. SR IC/Mercury conjunct my natal name asteroid. SR Ceres/Vertex conjunct his natal name asteroid, SR Venus conjunct natal Amor/Ceres/Uranus. SR Saturn/Vesta conjunct natal Karma/Eros.

In his upcoming SR, my SR name asteroid conjunct SR Juno - same aspect as my chart - both conjunct natal Mercury. SR Mars/Sun/Union on SR Asc with SR Mars/Asc on my natal name asteroid. SR Venus/Mercury conjunct his natal name asteroid. His SR name asteroid conjunct natal Cupido. SR Moon/Vertex/Chiron/Karma conjunct natal Vertex (Karma's a little far at 6° actually).

Lotsa love spells, it seems? I just hope it's with each other and not us with others.

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posted February 02, 2019 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it mean to have his name asteroid returning?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 02, 2019 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forget about it. This is not a productive or beneficial way to use astrology.

I'm a professional astrologer and don't even use solar return charts. Amateurs and followers don't do themselves any favors by worrying or fussing over what's in a solar return chart. And the chart you've displayed here is so cluttered with irrelevant bits that is is virtually unreadable.

The only houses and configurations that matter are in your birth chart. What is in transit to that?

Unforunately, astrologers have egged on this kind of astro-anxiety. Think about it. If you've got an accurate birth chart then those houses the planets are transiting that matter, not a secondary set of houses added by a solar return chart. This confuses people and leads them astray. People who aren't fluent in the astrological language can always find something to pick out and worry about. This does you no good whatsoever.

The Asc that matters is your birth Asc, and make sure it is accurate.

The houses that matter are in your birth chart, and only after you've made sure the Asc figure is accurate.

Some transits in your chart that DO matter and are worth understanding:

1. Neptune conjunct natal Mars. This one is very active now and is contributing to confusion and lower confidence. Do you understand what this transit is about?

2. Jupiter conjunct natal Moon. This one is related to internal expansion and a period in which you can express yourself more openly, honestly, broadly than usual. Do you have a good idea of how you want to use this?

3. Neptune square natal Moon. This one complicates the Jupiter conjunction and renders it more mystical and/or dramatic. It is important to understand the difference between an ideal to guide your choices and idealism that is impractical and creates expectations that can steer you wrong.

These 3 transits join in a configuration that sets off your natal Moon square Mars aspect. Understanding this and the challenges it represents is of far greater importance than fussing over solar returns and multiple houses, too many additives on the chart, etc.

Planets are the core energies and if you understanding their energy exchanges in natal and transit configurations you'll get greater clarity.

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Hikaru29
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posted February 04, 2019 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

[b]Some transits in your chart that DO matter and are worth understanding:

1. Neptune conjunct natal Mars. This one is very active now and is contributing to confusion and lower confidence. Do you understand what this transit is about?

2. Jupiter conjunct natal Moon. This one is related to internal expansion and a period in which you can express yourself more openly, honestly, broadly than usual. Do you have a good idea of how you want to use this?

3. Neptune square natal Moon. This one complicates the Jupiter conjunction and renders it more mystical and/or dramatic. It is important to understand the difference between an ideal to guide your choices and idealism that is impractical and creates expectations that can steer you wrong.

These 3 transits join in a configuration that sets off your natal Moon square Mars aspect. Understanding this and the challenges it represents is of far greater importance than fussing over solar returns and multiple houses, too many additives on the chart, etc.

Planets are the core energies and if you understanding their energy exchanges in natal and transit configurations you'll get greater clarity. [/B]


Usually which aspects do we pay attention to? Some say to only look at applying close orbs?

Doing things based on my intuition has always been my thing. I also almost always give people the benefit of the doubt and then get greatly disappointed. I know Neptune squares are gonna bring me hurt and disappointments but that has been my whole life actually. On this note, I'm now walking away from a friendship that has run its course. This is triggering my defence mechanism and I foresee some collateral damage.

A lot of things are coming to light but I'm feeling emotionally cooler than before.

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