posted January 26, 2019 05:27 PM            

What placements and aspects in the natal chart would show:

- mental/emotional resilience
- the ability to bounce back from trauma
- the self-confidence to overcome hurdles
- innate optimism and hope
- the characteristics of a survivor

...and so on?

posted January 26, 2019 08:09 PM            

- Mars-Pluto trine or sextile (determination, perseverance?)
((Quite possibly any aspect between Mars and Pluto...?))
- Otherwise well placed and aspected Pluto (transformation, phoenix from the ashes style...)
- Good second house (self-esteem)
- Jupiter well placed and aspected (optimism, good fortune)
- Chiron sextile or trine Jupiter, perhaps also the conjunction (enduring through optimism?)

I'm generally very resilient and so are my father and my brother... when comparing our charts I find that they all share most of the above traits.

posted January 27, 2019 11:28 AM            

I have Sun square Saturn, Capricorn North Node, Saturn square Pluto, and Sun square Ascendant (the orb is 7 degrees and it seems a bit wide to me, but I'm starting to think I feel this aspect).

The ways that I am resilience were not immediate. I had to work my butt off to become resilient at all.

posted January 27, 2019 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
I'm not the most resilient person out there, but I think Saturn aspects can make someone resilient over time and Capricorn placements as well. Pluto could show up too. Granted, even though I have Pluto in Scorpio conjunct my Scorpio Ascendant, Saturn is the planet I think helped me become resilient. Thing is, with Pluto, the resilience could be natural. With Saturn, from my experience, resilience happens over time. I'm mainly suggesting Saturn, because Saturn can point to a lot of hardship and responsibility. This could make someone have to become resilient, which was the case for me.

In terms of emotional resilience, I believe my Gemini Moon helps me with that. No matter how bad I make something sound or how bad I freak out, my Gemini Moon will kick in and I'll move on to focus on something else. Air signs in general tend to be more in the mind than emotion. I'm not sure how often air signs actually help with resilience, but their emphasis on rational thought definitely means they don't want to be overly emotional.

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Whilst I'm slightly biased, being a Capricorn, I read stuff that agrees. Often it's the fact that Saturn won't be doing with anything that isn't the unvarnished truth - so, in a way, those strongly influenced by him are less likely to suffer from disillusionment. Saturn tells you to expect life to be hard - no "it's my human right to be happy" here - so when the Sugar, Honey, Ice and Tea hits the fan you're kinda prepared for it. On the down side it doesn't exactly make you the "Fun Guy" at the party!

posted January 27, 2019 01:43 PM            

Saturn in 8th H when it's strong (Aqua-Cap maybe Libra too) is SOOO SO BAD.

Pluto in Scorpio squares Jupiter, Mars and Venus in Leo in 2nd H (I have high self esteem)

I have too much Neptunian and Uranian energy plus everything except of my trio in Leo and Uranus-Neptune in Capricorn is in water signs.

Definately not resilient. At least to me resilient is someone who gets over things and moves on quickly.

posted January 27, 2019 07:32 PM            

I kind of think that at least my Neptunian traits help me though. I definitely have rose-colored glasses on all the time. I delude myself into thinking that the world is more beautiful than it really is. I interpret other people's actions in the best possible light. I can find something positive about most situations, I'm very good at that! So even when something bad happens I tend to see it through those rose-colored glasses. They help me see the good where there barely is any, and I'm thankful for that.

posted January 29, 2019 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:

In terms of emotional resilience, I believe my Gemini Moon helps me with that. No matter how bad I make something sound or how bad I freak out, my Gemini Moon will kick in and I'll move on to focus on something else.

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Hi Lerena - thanks for sharing this, personally I find it a fascinating observation. I have heard (and experienced!) some heavily Gemini types who've seemed to handle traumatic changes this way.

If it's not too nosey, do you mind me asking a question? Do you think those influenced by Gemini this way tend to actually mourn or grieve? It sounds like what you're describing would put such a process on indefinite hold - deflecting the pain of a relationship breakdown by dashing straight into a new one, for example, or avoiding mourning a relative by throwing yourself into a new project.

posted January 29, 2019 07:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:

In terms of emotional resilience, I believe my Gemini Moon helps me with that. No matter how bad I make something sound or how bad I freak out, my Gemini Moon will kick in and I'll move on to focus on something else. Air signs in general tend to be more in the mind than emotion. I'm not sure how often air signs actually help with resilience, but their emphasis on rational thought definitely means they don't want to be overly emotional.

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Hmm...
As a Gemini Moon as well I can't resonate with this.

If something bothers me I cannot let go of it to save my life; my way of dealing with it is wallowing in it. I'm also an Aquarius Sun (4th house), yet I can't help but get stuck in deep-seated emotions that are constantly affecting my day-to-day life. People constantly tell me, "Stop taking it so seriously, why are you letting it bother you, you need to stop thinking about it."

posted January 30, 2019 12:08 AM            

I have a couple of aspects in my chart that I like to think give me strength and resilience:

posted January 30, 2019 12:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Capguy75:
Whilst I'm slightly biased, being a Capricorn, I read stuff that agrees. Often it's the fact that Saturn won't be doing with anything that isn't the unvarnished truth - so, in a way, those strongly influenced by him are less likely to suffer from disillusionment. Saturn tells you to expect life to be hard - no "it's my human right to be happy" here - so when the Sugar, Honey, Ice and Tea hits the fan you're kinda prepared for it. On the down side it doesn't exactly make you the "Fun Guy" at the party!

I've also got the much-maligned "Saturn in the 12th House" placement. I can't remember the link, but I've read that despite its oft-cursed reputation, it does tend to bestow some resilience on those who have it. Again, the notion is that its Saturn (removing rose-tinted glasses, structure, reality) in the nebulous 12th house (the subconcious, the unseen, the spiritual). In essence then, if religion is "the opium of the masses" Saturn here applies a strong dose of cold turkey. There's a sense you can see what undelies reality but that includes those things most people filter out, hope aren't there or idealise instead.

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I relate to this so much. I have 3 planets in Capricorn, Cap ASC, and Saturn in 12th house.

posted August 30, 2019 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Capguy75:

If it's not too nosey, do you mind me asking a question? Do you think those influenced by Gemini this way tend to actually mourn or grieve? It sounds like what you're describing would put such a process on indefinite hold - deflecting the pain of a relationship breakdown by dashing straight into a new one, for example, or avoiding mourning a relative by throwing yourself into a new project.

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I was thinking about resilience earlier, so I'm bumping this. I have a Gemini Moon/Venus/SN, and I grieve. They square Mars in Pisces, so some might say that's why, but I don't think so.

I have had the same thought as Lerena: that my Moon kicks in eventually, and gets me up and focusing on something else, but I can have a tough time getting there. It was easier when other people were here in the house, or when I was getting out more. I go through a really depressed period, which can last for as little as a day or two - then a wallowing period where you're getting over it - this is when I tend to watch Netflix in the middle of the night. Starting a new series, freshly showered, because it makes me feel better, drinking tea, and I'm alone and in the dark. Then I sleep, and wake up feeling better (sometimes).

For anything big, it happens in waves, just as it does with anyone. I've been told several times, that I need to get over something/let it go, and I hate that - it happens when it happens.

posted August 30, 2019 01:14 AM            

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Originally posted by ballerina:
Ggod Stuff!

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posted August 30, 2019 01:26 AM            

My mother was an amazing person, the strongest person I've ever known. She was a Sagittarius with Mars conjunct Pluto in Leo, and Moon/Jupiter/Chiron in Libra, Venus in Scorpio, Mercury in Sadge. Growing up, I thought she did it all herself, so I tried to do the same. I kept things that bothered me to myself, until they came spilling out, because I couldn't take it anymore. When I admitted as an adult, that I didn't want to bother anyone else with my problems - that everyone has stuff they're dealing with, so they didn't need to hear about mine on top of that - she pointed out that I hadn't seen her unloading onto other people herself, like my aunts. I'd been off with cousins and/or friends, and she would be sleeping or venting, and then having a laugh. Visiting my aunts gave her a break from being responsible for everything, and time with other people that she loved. She acted like a therapist for everyone else, too.